100 Greatest Rock Artists (under revision)

pave · **Posted:** Sun May 20, 2012 4:07 am

Johnny wrote:

One bad thing, though, is that I think no band has ever covered a Beatles' song.

Negative Creep · **Joined:** Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:21 pm **Posts:** 13572

My sentiments exactly...

Yngtchie Blacksteen · **Posted:** Sun May 20, 2012 5:31 am

He's right, tho, I always wondered what that little acoustic ditty near the end of the Help! album would've sounded like when covered by another musician.

Gray · **Joined:** Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:49 pm **Posts:** 3043

pave wrote:

Johnny wrote:

One bad thing, though, is that I think no band has ever covered a Beatles' song.

ClashWho · **Posted:** Sun May 20, 2012 10:20 am

Has any artist ever had a hit with a Beatles cover?

pave · **Posted:** Sun May 20, 2012 11:05 am

Wilson Pickett's Hey Jude and Aerosmith's Come Together come to mind immediately.

i think everyone has covered a Beatles' song though.

pave · **Posted:** Sun May 20, 2012 11:08 am

and idk if it charted, but Joe Cocker's version of With a Little Help from My Friends is extremely popular too.

the are artists who recorded nearly entire albums of Beatles covers.

wikipedia even has a page dedicated to just Beatles covers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... tles_songs

pave · **Posted:** Sun May 20, 2012 11:09 am

Yngtchie Blacksteen wrote:

He's right, tho, I always wondered what that little acoustic ditty near the end of the Help! album would've sounded like when covered by another musician.

Echoes · **Joined:** Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:43 am **Posts:** 4564

pave wrote:

and idk if it charted, but Joe Cocker's version of With a Little Help from My Friends is extremely popular too.

the are artists who recorded nearly entire albums of Beatles covers.

wikipedia even has a page dedicated to just Beatles covers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... tles_songs

I think that Johnny was being sarcastic.

This is my favorite version of With a Little Help from my Friends.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzj9z8QDTfU

Echoes · **Joined:** Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:43 am **Posts:** 4564

Brett Alan wrote:

Echoes wrote:

That is totally subjective.

What we need is a more objective way to messure each criteria and establish parameters.

For example, for each category The Beatles and Elvis are at the very top. They are #1 and #2 in terms of popularity, influence, musical impact and cultural impact. So the parameter should be them. I mean for example, if The Beatles and Elvis are #1 in cultural impact they should get 5 points. The Rolling Stones have huge impact but they are not at the level of The Beatles or Elvis so they get 4 points.

Taking one's conclusions and translating them into numbers does not make them more objective.

I am not saying that we should take my conclusions or anybody's conclusions on particular.

I think that with a point system is more easy to reach a consensus between all the participants of this forum.

For example, without a point system is really hard to decide whom is greater between The Who and Led Zeppelin, but with a point system....

The Who
Popularity: 5 points
Influence: 3 points
Musical Impact: 5 points
Cultural Impact: 3 points

Total Score in points 16 points.
Final Score (%): 80%

Led Zeppelin:
Popularity: 5 points
Influence: 2 point
Musical Impact: 5 points
Cultural Impact: 2 points

Total Score in points 14 points.
Final Score (%): 70%

Johnny · **Joined:** Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:13 am **Posts:** 149

Echoes wrote:

pave wrote:

and idk if it charted, but Joe Cocker's version of With a Little Help from My Friends is extremely popular too.

the are artists who recorded nearly entire albums of Beatles covers.

wikipedia even has a page dedicated to just Beatles covers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... tles_songs

I think that Johnny was being sarcastic.

Thank you. I'm surprised everyone else took that statement so seriously since it's clearly not true.

gminer · **Joined:** Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:17 pm **Posts:** 2949

Johnny wrote:

The Beatles were the first to have guitar feedback on record (Have any other artists ever used feedback in guitars? I think quite a few of them have). The ywere one of the first (I'm not sure if the first, but the most notable at least) to use "weird instruments" like sitar in a rock context.

and Johnny used more sarcasm with the above statement as well ......for example Joe Meek introduced his version of a concept album when he started recording I Hear a New World in 1959 for release in 1960. In recorded interviews he explained it was a concept album build around a series of songs about an outer space fantasy ... the material is quite interesting with innovative recording techniques, special effects, compression, feedback etc ... which all became commonplace years later ... the same as guitar feedback was being used by Townshend, Eddie Philips, Jeff Beck, Blackmore in the live format without any prompting from the Beatles ... as were the Tielman Brothers in Europe etc ......

Recorded in 1959 and releeasd in 1960 the following from Joe Meek ....

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvMRDS7QvK8[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=movOhJilbac[/youtube]

and more sarcasm from Johnny on the Stones, as if Rock and Roll didn`t have a dark and dangerous bad boy image before the Rolling Stones arrived on the music scene, Rock and Roll`s image was entirely that before the Beatles arrived as the first boy band of note that had a safe clean image so appealing to young teenage girls without scaring their parents ..... as opposed to popular live acts of the time like long green haired rock and roller Screaming Lord Sutch and his Savages which also included proto Alice Cooper stage make up and props ....... Take care

.. Lord Sutch from 1961

Yngtchie Blacksteen · **Posted:** Sun May 20, 2012 3:40 pm

gminer wrote:

and Johnny used more sarcasm with the above statement as well ...

I love you, gminer.

Brian · **Joined:** Wed Oct 06, 2010 2:52 pm **Posts:** 4300

Bruno_Antonio wrote:

Brian wrote:

Whitney does appear to compare favorably to McCartney, probably beating him in both popularity and influence. So she is likely to be added.

Good choice.

Brian, how many artists you're thinking of adding in the top 100?

There are quite a few artists that are close. What I'm thinking now is that I'll add Kanye, The Dominoes, Johnny Otis, Joe Turner, Whitney, and Guns 'n' Roses and drop The Sex Pistols, The Velvet Underground, Talking Heads, Frank Zappa, Chicago, and Yes. There are probably a couple more that should be added as well, but these 6 appear to me to be the most deserving.

Bruno_Antonio wrote:

The Grateful Dead is not too high?
I mean, they are one of the biggest names in the Psychedelic's style, but are not as influential and not do well in popularity, though they are highly acclaimed for their live performances.

Probably.

Brian · **Joined:** Wed Oct 06, 2010 2:52 pm **Posts:** 4300

Echoes wrote:

Brett Alan wrote:

Echoes wrote:

That is totally subjective.

What we need is a more objective way to messure each criteria and establish parameters.

For example, for each category The Beatles and Elvis are at the very top. They are #1 and #2 in terms of popularity, influence, musical impact and cultural impact. So the parameter should be them. I mean for example, if The Beatles and Elvis are #1 in cultural impact they should get 5 points. The Rolling Stones have huge impact but they are not at the level of The Beatles or Elvis so they get 4 points.

Taking one's conclusions and translating them into numbers does not make them more objective.

I am not saying that we should take my conclusions or anybody's conclusions on particular.

I think that with a point system is more easy to reach a consensus between all the participants of this forum.

For example, without a point system is really hard to decide whom is greater between The Who and Led Zeppelin, but with a point system....

The Who
Popularity: 5 points
Influence: 3 points
Musical Impact: 5 points
Cultural Impact: 3 points

Total Score in points 16 points.
Final Score (%): 80%

Led Zeppelin:
Popularity: 5 points
Influence: 2 point
Musical Impact: 5 points
Cultural Impact: 2 points

Total Score in points 14 points.
Final Score (%): 70%

Or it could come out like this:

The Who
Popularity: 4 points
Influence: 4 points
Musical Impact: 4 points
Cultural Impact: 2 points

Total Score in points 14 points.
Final Score (%): 70%

Led Zeppelin:
Popularity: 5 points
Influence: 4 point
Musical Impact: 3 points
Cultural Impact: 2 points

Total Score in points 14 points.
Final Score (%): 70%

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