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Author:  iniquitous [ Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 100 Greatest Rock Artists (under revision)
:lol: James Brown a rock artist AND above Dylan, the Stones and Berry!

1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. James Brown
4. Rolling Stones
5. Bob Dylan
6. Chuck Berry

:lol:
Author:  corrections [ Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 100 Greatest Rock Artists
Brian wrote:
This is the tentative revision of the list as it currently stands:

1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. James Brown
4. Bob Dylan
5. The Rolling Stones
6. Chuck Berry
7. The Who
8. Led Zeppelin
9. Ray Charles
10. Stevie Wonder
11. The Beach Boys
12. Aretha Franklin
13. Fats Domino
14. Jimi Hendrix
15. Little Richard
16. Marvin Gaye
17. Bruce Springsteen
18. Michael Jackson
19. Sam Cooke
20. U2
21. Prince
22. Madonna
23. Pink Floyd
24. Buddy Holly
25. The Supremes
26. Elton John
27. Queen
28. David Bowie
29. Run-DMC
30. Nirvana
31. The Temptations
32. The Everly Brothers
33. Black Sabbath
34. Neil Young
35. Bob Marley & the Wailers
36. Public Enemy
37. Sly & The Family Stone
38. The Kinks
39. The Grateful Dead
40. The Clash
41. Bo Diddley
42. The Doors
43. Otis Redding
44. R.E.M.
45. Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
46. Bill Haley & His Comets
47. The Byrds
48. Jerry Lee Lewis
49. Curtis Mayfield/ The Impressions
50. Van Halen
51. The Velvet Underground
52. Elvis Costello
53. Simon & Garfunkel
54. Cream
55. Roy Orbison
56. Eric Clapton
57. George Clinton & Parliament/Funkadelic
58. Fleetwood Mac
59. Joni Mitchell
60. The Eagles
61. Creedence Clearwater Revival
62. Van Morrison
63. Aerosmith
64. The Drifters
65. Metallica
66. Pearl Jam
67. Frank Zappa
68. The Ramones
69. The Bee Gees
70. The Isley Brothers
71. The Police
72. Al Green
73. The Allman Brothers Band
74. AC/DC
75. Crosby, Stills, & Nash (& Young)
76. Deep Purple
77. Janis Joplin
78. The Band
79. Yes
80. Radiohead
81. Chicago
82. The Beastie Boys *
83. 2pac *
84. Talking Heads
85. The Platters *
86. Jackie Wilson *
87. Eminem *
88. The Shirelles *
89. The Clovers *
90. Janet Jackson *
91. Donna Summer *
92. Mariah Carey *
93. Ruth Brown *
94. Outkast *
95. Rod Stewart *
96. Red Hot Chili Peppers *
97. The Four Seasons *
98. Jay-Z *
99. The Sex Pistols
100. N.W.A.


Not necessarily saying that you are wrong with this but all of the underlined names I feel fairly confidently are misplaced over Black Sabbath.
Author:  Brian [ Sun Nov 28, 2010 5:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 100 Greatest Rock Artists (under revision)
The thing about Sabbath is that they're very strong in influence, but not so much in anything else, at least compared to artists ahead of them. So with most of their strength in influence, it's hard for them to top any artist who's more influential than they are, such as Holly. Generally, I believe the other underlined artists either comfortably beat them in both popularity and musical impact, or easily beat them in one while holding their own in the other, and some aren't too far behind in influence.
Author:  Forgotten Son [ Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:21 pm ]
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Floyd at least beat Sabbath in every criteria.
Author:  ClashWho [ Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:52 pm ]
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Forgotten Son wrote:
Floyd at least beat Sabbath in every criteria.


Everything but influence, I would say.
Author:  Brian [ Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:49 pm ]
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Everything but influence is what I would say too, but Floyd beats Sabbath in popularity by more than Sabbath beats them in influence.
Author:  Forgotten Son [ Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:24 pm ]
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Influence is pretty close, I'd say. Sabbath has massive influence on Heavy Metal, Pink Floyd sizeable influence on Prog and Alt Rock.
Author:  iniquitous [ Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 100 Greatest Rock Artists (under revision)
I love Pink Floyd. They should be much higher.
Author:  ClashWho [ Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:44 pm ]
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iniquitous wrote:
I love Pink Floyd. They should be much higher.


"Loved by iniquitous" is not part of the criteria.
Author:  Musicfan67 [ Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:12 am ]
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As a fan of the Byrds also I can't understand why R.E.M. who I like is ahead of the Byrds. Let's face it Peter Buck of R.E.M was strongly influenced by the Byrds and their jangle sound. The Byrds also were one of the major groups that influenced a significant shift to the progressive and experimental side of rock music in the 60's. A massive influence on bands like Pink Floyd, Yes, Tom Petty and so many other musicians.
Author:  Musicfan67 [ Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:00 am ]
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Ace of Spades wrote:
Musicfan67 wrote:
As a fan of the Byrds also I can't understand why R.E.M. who I like is ahead of the Byrds. Let's face it Peter Buck of R.E.M was strongly influenced by the Byrds and their jangle sound. The Byrds also were one of the major groups that influenced a significant shift to the progressive and experimental side of rock music in the 60's. A massive influence on bands like Pink Floyd, Yes, Tom Petty and so many other musicians.


R.E.M. were kinda like the Black Sabbath of alternative though.


Interesting R.E.M. I think is not on the Rolling Stone Immortal Poll as voted by musicians and music producers. This list is subjective. You bring up something that I think is important IMO when you say R.E.M were kinda like the Black Sabbath of alternative rock. Black Sabbath say what you want about them their influence on hard rock/heavy metal has stood the time. To me that is a sign of greatness and something Sampson seems to ignore when I point out certain bands enduring influence. Many of the artists of the 50's and the 60's I can't really say their influence has been enduring.

So where do you draw the line with the Byrds and other people who were influential in their time but not that much in the modern era. The Byrds were influential for many bands. The Byrds influence though on music in the last 20 years is nowhere what it was in the mid 60's. The Byrds though were integral in the devolopment of folk rock, jangle pop, psychedelic rock, raga rock and country rock. Yet they were a key influence on R.E.M and a few other early alternative rock. IMO you have to respect how the Byrds were able to merge the lyrics of Bob Dylan and the folk, country and 12 string jangle inclinations of the Hard Day's Night/Beatles For Sale era Beatles and forge a new sound. "Eight Miles High" was an important step or upped the ante in the experimental aspect of rock music also. Those things can't be ignored IMO.
Author:  ClashWho [ Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:56 pm ]
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Musicfan67 wrote:
To me that is a sign of greatness and something Sampson seems to ignore when I point out certain bands enduring influence.


The Beatles are #2 on his influence list. The Beatles' enduring influence is being ignored, eh?
Author:  Musicfan67 [ Wed Dec 01, 2010 6:06 pm ]
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ClashWho wrote:
Musicfan67 wrote:
To me that is a sign of greatness and something Sampson seems to ignore when I point out certain bands enduring influence.


The Beatles are #2 on his influence list. The Beatles' enduring influence is being ignored, eh?


You know what I don't to rehash this again OK. I stated my reasons and I know many feel The Beatles should be #1 on the influence list. Sampson who I disagree with most of the time feels the Beatles are #1 in terms of musical influence but the supposed huge cultural advantage Elvis has over the Beatles makes Elvis #1 according to him. What I say to that is a bunch of B.S.
Author:  ClashWho [ Wed Dec 01, 2010 6:15 pm ]
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Musicfan67 wrote:
As a fan of the Byrds also I can't understand why R.E.M. who I like is ahead of the Byrds. Let's face it Peter Buck of R.E.M was strongly influenced by the Byrds and their jangle sound. The Byrds also were one of the major groups that influenced a significant shift to the progressive and experimental side of rock music in the 60's. A massive influence on bands like Pink Floyd, Yes, Tom Petty and so many other musicians.


The Byrds are #61. REM are #65. So what's the problem?
Author:  ClashWho [ Wed Dec 01, 2010 6:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 100 Greatest Rock Artists (under revision)
Musicfan67 wrote:
You know what I don't to rehash this again OK. I stated my reasons and I know many feel The Beatles should be #1 on the influence list. Sampson who I disagree with most of the time feels the Beatles are #1 in terms of musical influence but the supposed huge cultural advantage Elvis has over the Beatles makes Elvis #1 according to him. What I say to that is a bunch of B.S.


Truer words were never spoken.
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