600 Greatest Rock Songs

Gray · **Joined:** Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:49 pm **Posts:** 3043

I'm thinking that influence goes to Smells Like Teen Spirit.

Deany · **Posted:** Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:02 am

I guess, yeah, but the difference isn't all that huge.

Taro · **Joined:** Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:48 pm **Posts:** 655

I think that Smells Like Teen Spirit is an obvious #1 but I'd rather refrain from writing that

Gray · **Joined:** Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:49 pm **Posts:** 3043

Well, you just did.

Deany · **Posted:** Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:26 am

I'd say that "Stairway"'s leads in popularity and cultural impact far outweigh SLTS's leads in the other two criteria. Stairway is a cultural milestone.

Taro · **Joined:** Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:48 pm **Posts:** 655

Deany wrote:

I'd say that "Stairway"'s leads in popularity and cultural impact far outweigh SLTS's leads in the other two criteria. Stairway is a cultural milestone.

As well as Teen Spirit.

pauldrach · **Posted:** Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:41 pm

OK, my breakdown with explanations:

Popularity: Hard to measure as Stairway never was released as a single. Stairway is a highly popular tune, no question. SLTS was a #2 US single, and it's at least a well known as Stairway I think (maybe even more).

Musical impact: That one's very close I'd say. Both songs are highly acclaimed.

Influence: SLTS marked the point where alternative rock broke into the mainstream. It helped popularize a genre that has been huge for the last twenty years. Stairway was influential on power ballads which were a huge part of the rock music of the 1980's/early 1990's. Other than that I probably don't understand the nature of Stairway's influence.

Cultural impact: I still think it's hard to tell what is included under this criterion and what isn't. As already mentioned SLTS marked alternative rock's breakthrough, and with it probably other aspects of alternative culture (without me being able to specify them). I don't see any cultural impact for Stairway.

The Man · **Posted:** Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:01 pm

Machine Head wrote:

I'm tired of these Taro shitty posts

The Man · **Posted:** Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:02 pm

Taro wrote:

I think that Smells Like Teen Spirit is an obvious #1 but I'd rather refrain from writing that

Please explain.

Taro · **Joined:** Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:48 pm **Posts:** 655

Once someone on this forum said that Yellow Submarine is a fucking children's song, and I would say the same on Johnny B. Goode. Smells Like Teen Spirit is probably the most influential song of all time. Smells Like > B. Goode

Machine Head · **Posted:** Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:52 am

ur dum

Taro · **Joined:** Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:48 pm **Posts:** 655

Fuck off

Deany · **Posted:** Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:51 am

Taro wrote:

Once someone on this forum said that Yellow Submarine is a fucking children's song, and I would say the same on Johnny B. Goode. Smells Like Teen Spirit is probably the most influential song of all time. Smells Like > B. Goode

Fact C: You're an idiot. SLTS influenced ONE genre. If you try maybe you can count that much with your hands. Johnny B. Goode is the song on which all of rock was built on. No Johnny, no Sgt. Pepper, no Hendrix, no Stairway, and yes, no Teen Spirit.

Taro · **Joined:** Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:48 pm **Posts:** 655

The only advantage of B. Goode over Teen Spirit is that it is a root of rock song, but Teen Spirit is an overall greater song.

Deany · **Posted:** Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:19 am

Let's do this by the criteria, shall we?

Influence: JBG. This is such a massive obliteration that we should just disregard the other three criteria rigt now, but let's go on.
Musical Impact: JBG. No, seriously.
Cultural Impact: Tie/JBG
Popularity: Pure sales, it's Teen Spirit, but putting everything in perspective, it's a tie OR Teen Spirit.

And the verdict is...Johnny B. Goode.

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