We're ranking the "record" of "Hound Dog," not the live performance of a song that had not yet even been recorded in the studio. Or the "greatest moments" in the career of Elvis Presley.

Like I said before, unless you saw the show live, you could not see it until at least the late 1980s.

MOST people, including critics, rank "Heartbreak Hotel" and "Don't Be Cruel" and maybe even "All Shook Up" above "Hound Dog,"

Then why are you bringing up the performance of "Jailhouse Rock" in the film?

Like I said before, unless you saw the show live, you could not see it until at least the late 1980s.

What does that matter? Tens of millions did see it, and that's what caused all the fuss. It's probably the single most important performance in the history of rock 'n' roll.

Berle beat out Bilko in the ratings that night, but if it was "tens of millions," which I doubt, it would only have been "TWO" tens of millions. There were only about 100 million households that had TV's in 1956, and Bilko was winning the time slot every week, until then. Neither show was in the top 20 for the year. Also, the show did not reach the entire country in those days. There were significant parts of many states that could get any CBS affiliate on their sets.

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Berle beat out Bilko in the ratings that night, but if it was "tens of millions," which I doubt, it would only have been "TWO" tens of millions. There were only about 100 million households that had TV's in 1956, and Bilko was winning the time slot every week, until then. Neither show was in the top 20 for the year. Also, the show did not reach the entire country in those days. There were significant parts of many states that could get any CBS affiliate on their sets.

That's The Steve Allen Show performance of "Hound Dog". The Milton Berle Show performance of "Hound Dog" is one of the greatest performances in the history of rock 'n' roll. I can't believe you thought I was talking about the Steve Allen one. As if I would think that's rock 'n' roll?

Yes. Especially that kind of dance choreography.

If the music was all that mattered, Elvis Presley wouldn't have become a legend.

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12 - Mystery Train
63 - Good Rockin' Tonight
130 - Don't Be Cruel
853 - Jailhouse Rock
966 - Hound Dog

ACCLAIMED MUSIC (concensus of critics)
15 Elvis Presley Heartbreak Hotel
56 Elvis Presley Suspicious Minds
73 Elvis Presley That's All Right
76 Elvis Presley Hound Dog
79 Elvis Presley Mystery Train
119 Elvis Presley Don't Be Cruel
174 Elvis Presley Jailhouse Rock

No matter how many saw it, hundreds of thousands heard about it (through word of mouth or press reports). Or at least that's how many negative letters Berle said he received about it.

So you want to move the RECORD up higher on the list because of a performance of the same song, done in a very different style, months before the record was issued, was talked about negatively by thousands of people?

Clash, you're already on record as saying that if artists hated a record that the record should not get credit for impact. Now you want to give impact to "Hound Dog" because many in the public hated it and were outraged by a performance of the song before the record had even been recorded.

Which is it?

Does negative response to something by people count as impact, or not?

100 million television sets, only three channels, #1 in primetime. Easily tens of millions.

So you want to move the RECORD up higher on the list because of a performance of the same song, done in a very different style, months before the record was issued, was talked about negatively by thousands of people?

You're right, the Milton Berle version is the one where they slow down the tempo at the end right?

Because that performance is done with the RECORD, AFTER it was recorded. As opposed to "HD" on Milton Berle, which is a live performance of the same song done in a very different style than the RECORD of "HD," which was still about 8 weeks away from even being recorded. We are ranking the record here.

Where are you getting "only three channels" from?

There were only three networks, but every market had at least 5 to 8 channels.

How many of the 100 million TV sets do you think were even turned on between 8 & 9 that night?

That's a good point, but if it's Elvis Presley's performance of "Hound Dog" that we want to honor for its huge impact, where else would we put the credit but on his hit recording of the song?