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Bruce wrote:

How many of the 100 million TV sets do you think were even turned on between 8 & 9 that night?

Probably pretty close to all of them.

What's the significance of that?

Jailhouse Rock just epitomizes everything that is great about rock & roll, much more so than Hound Dog imo.
The king's vocal approach on this song was significantly different than what had previously been the norm. When he adds that raw grit to his voice....there's just nobody else better. It's over with.

I think Hound Dog is kinda bouncy and 'poppy'.

But in terms of objective greatness/significance, they are both dangerously close and I dont see a landslide either way.

Bouncy and poppy?

Are you sure you're not listening to "Sugartown" by Nancy Sinatra or something?

"Hound Dog" is much more raw and spontaneous. Not much production involved. Although I wish they hadn't added those fucking hand claps.

"Jailhouse Rock" is just a wee bit contrived and much more rehearsed. It was somewhat restrianed so that it would fit correctly into the movie.

More raw than Jailhouse Rock?? Gtfo....
That's 'tear-the-house-down' rock & roll at it's best.

Negative Creep wrote:

Speaking of which, do you agree that Jailhouse Rock is Elvis' greatest song?

Yes.

Here's how I ranked them on the "Greatest 50s Songs" list:

2. Jailhouse Rock - Elvis Presley
8. Hound Dog - Elvis Presley
15. Don't Be Cruel - Elvis Presley
36. Heartbreak Hotel - Elvis Presley
40. That's All Right - Elvis Presley with Scotty and Bill
52. All Shook Up - Elvis Presley
120. Baby Let's Play House - Elvis Presley with Scotty and Bill
121. Mystery Train - Elvis Presley with Scotty and Bill
138. Blue Suede Shoes - Elvis Presley
147. One Night - Elvis Presley
170. Good Rocking Tonight - Elvis Presley with Scotty and Bill
181. Too Much - Elvis Presley

What would Milk Cow Blues be doing there? It never even hit the charts.. And BLPH ahead of ASU would simply be obscure.. A multi-platinum selling single below a song that didn't even make the hot 100?

Author:	Bruce [ Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:51 pm ]
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ClashWho wrote: Bruce wrote: How many of the 100 million TV sets do you think were even turned on between 8 & 9 that night? Probably pretty close to all of them. Come on. Out of the 100 million households there would have been a decent percentage (20% maybe) of people who were not even home, or were outside in the back yard, or whatever.

Author:	Bruce [ Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:05 pm ]
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Guess what are Presley's two biggest songs on Last.FM? Jailhouse Rock - 1,532,930 Hound Dog - 1,375,058

Author:	pgm [ Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:13 pm ]
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What's the significance of that?

Author:	Bruce [ Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:55 am ]
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pgm wrote: What's the significance of that? It tells us that those are likely his two most listened to songs now in 2012, at least by the millions of people who use that site.

Author:	Negative Creep [ Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:45 am ]
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Jailhouse Rock just epitomizes everything that is great about rock & roll, much more so than Hound Dog imo. The king's vocal approach on this song was significantly different than what had previously been the norm. When he adds that raw grit to his voice....there's just nobody else better. It's over with.

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Author:	ClashWho [ Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:14 am ]
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Negative Creep wrote: Jailhouse Rock just epitomizes everything that is great about rock & roll, much more so than Hound Dog imo. The king's vocal approach on this song was significantly different than what had previously been the norm. When he adds that raw grit to his voice....there's just nobody else better. It's over with. Fine, but that's mostly subjective. In terms of objective criteria, I think "Hound Dog" is the more important record.

Author:	Negative Creep [ Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:38 am ]
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Well it's not JUST about his voice, although that's definitely the main ingredient. The solid pulsing rhythm of the song is also VERY rock & roll, whereas I think Hound Dog is kinda bouncy and 'poppy'. But in terms of objective greatness/significance, they are both dangerously close and I dont see a landslide either way. I just reeeeeally want Jailhouse to take that top spot.

Author:	Bruce [ Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:19 am ]
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Negative Creep wrote: I think Hound Dog is kinda bouncy and 'poppy'. Bouncy and poppy? Are you sure you're not listening to "Sugartown" by Nancy Sinatra or something? "Hound Dog" is much more raw and spontaneous. Not much production involved. Although I wish they hadn't added those fucking hand claps. "Jailhouse Rock" is just a wee bit contrived and much more rehearsed. It was somewhat restrained so that it would fit correctly into the movie.

Author:	Bruce [ Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:22 am ]
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Negative Creep wrote: But in terms of objective greatness/significance, they are both dangerously close and I dont see a landslide either way. Here's how I ranked them on the "500 Greatest Popular Recordings" list: 12. Jailhouse Rock - Elvis Presley - 1957 17. Hound Dog - Elvis Presley - 1956 36. Don't Be Cruel - Elvis Presley - 1956 47. Heartbreak Hotel - Elvis Presley - 1956

Author:	Negative Creep [ Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:49 pm ]
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Quote: Bouncy and poppy? Are you sure you're not listening to "Sugartown" by Nancy Sinatra or something? I'm not saying it's not rock & roll, but it's definitely a lot 'snappier' than Jailhouse Rock. I mean, you can snap your fingers along with the beat of the snare drum in the song. It's catchier, more of an 'ear-grabber'. Jailhouse is just an explosive shit-hot rock & roll song. Quote: "Hound Dog" is much more raw and spontaneous. Not much production involved. Although I wish they hadn't added those fucking hand claps. More raw than Jailhouse Rock?? Gtfo.... That's 'tear-the-house-down' rock & roll at it's best. Quote: "Jailhouse Rock" is just a wee bit contrived and much more rehearsed. It was somewhat restrianed so that it would fit correctly into the movie. Jeez, if THAT is restrained, then I shudder to think what it would be like if he really let loose...

Author:	Bruce [ Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:05 pm ]
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Negative Creep wrote: More raw than Jailhouse Rock?? Gtfo.... That's 'tear-the-house-down' rock & roll at it's best. No it's not. His best raw rocker is "Good Rockin' Tonight." But when it comes to raw rocking nothing by Elvis can compete with this: The girls are screaming for Johnny Burnette, And it wasn't because he was handsome. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGYazw6n5e4[/youtube]

Author:	Negative Creep [ Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:33 am ]
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Johnny definitely looks like a handsome fucker to me. No fag, just sayin'... But at least we both agree on Jailhouse being highest for EP. I think Deany agreed to it as well. I will always say that song defines the raw youthful spirit of Elvis (and rock in general) more than any other.

Author:	Negative Creep [ Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:17 am ]
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Bruce wrote: Negative Creep wrote: Speaking of which, do you agree that Jailhouse Rock is Elvis' greatest song? Yes. Here's how I ranked them on the "Greatest 50s Songs" list: 2. Jailhouse Rock - Elvis Presley 8. Hound Dog - Elvis Presley 15. Don't Be Cruel - Elvis Presley 36. Heartbreak Hotel - Elvis Presley 40. That's All Right - Elvis Presley with Scotty and Bill 52. All Shook Up - Elvis Presley 120. Baby Let's Play House - Elvis Presley with Scotty and Bill 121. Mystery Train - Elvis Presley with Scotty and Bill 138. Blue Suede Shoes - Elvis Presley 147. One Night - Elvis Presley 170. Good Rocking Tonight - Elvis Presley with Scotty and Bill 181. Too Much - Elvis Presley All Shook Up....not THAT is a poppy tune with no edge at all. Not that it matters, and I know it was popular, but above Baby Let's Play House? What Elvis did to those Arthur Crudup tunes was absolutely priceless. It's like he was updating them for a whole new generation. I remember listening to Crudup's version of That's All Right, thinking it was gonna be pretty much in the same style. I was surprised to find it was actually a slow delta blues number. Elvis transformed it and breathed a whole new life into it. Also, you dont think Milk Cow Blues could squeeze in there?

Author:	Hendrix [ Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:50 am ]
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What would Milk Cow Blues be doing there? It never even hit the charts.. And BLPH ahead of ASU would simply be obscure.. A multi-platinum selling single below a song that didn't even make the hot 100?

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Author:	Bruce [ Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:00 pm ]
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Hendrix wrote: What would Milk Cow Blues be doing there? It never even hit the charts.. And BLPH ahead of ASU would simply be obscure.. A multi-platinum selling single below a song that didn't even make the hot 100? You're right. Let's get rid of "Time" by Pink Floyd. It was the flip side of a single (Us And Them) that only got to #101 on the Bubbling Under chart. "Time" never even bubbled under.