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Author:  Bruno [ Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:58 pm ]
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a_man_named_gray wrote:
Impact was replaced with originality.

Okay :wink:
Author:  The Man [ Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:44 am ]
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Negative Creep wrote:
European Son wrote:
Ray Charles over MJ?


Uh, yes actually. He destroys MJ in influence and it's not close, especially if we're talking overall scope and development of rock vocals. Ray is also much more original than MJ was, with the way he fused together a multitude of different stylistic elements to achieve a particular sound (just like Presley was doing).
MJ beats him in skill, and that's really about the only thing I see him winning.


As a side note, Ray Charles was listed at #2 on Rolling Stone's list (which was overall quite terrible, but it does say quite a bit about Ray's influence)
Author:  European Son [ Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:47 am ]
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Is there a revised list at the moment, or is what I see on page one, what it is.
Author:  Classic Rock Junkie [ Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:15 am ]
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I've thought for a while Ray Charles is way too low, having him near Jim Morrison is kind of odd...if anything he should be top 15, because his massive wins in nearly every criteria aspect except tech skill. Also, Jackson can move up, we need to stop paying attention to Patrick's posts, they continue to by bias and idiotic.

Uggh...the discussion for this list has been derailed countless times and is so shaken up it's beginning to really get annoying. I'm just gonna submit an idea of what I think is correct with no bias towards soul or metal and just see how it goes, imagine that's the real rankings, and just quit there unless discussion improves, though we are moving in the right direction recently.
Author:  Classic Rock Junkie [ Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:26 am ]
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1. Freddie Mercury
2. Elvis Presley
3. Robert Plant
4. Sam Cooke
5. Roy Orbison
6. Jackie Wilson
7. Ian Gillan
8. Stevie Wonder
9. Ray Charles
10. Jeff Buckley
11. Michael Jackson
12. Steve Perry
13. Otis Redding
14. Roger Daltrey
15. Clyde McPhatter
16. Rob Halford
17. Little Richard
18. Marvin Gaye
19. Paul McCartney
20. Al Green/Bruce Dickenson
21. Bruce Dickinson/Al Green
22. Ronnie James Dio
23. James Brown
24. Jim Morrison
25. John Lennon
26. Smokey Robinson
27. Curtis Mayfield
28. Chris Cornell
29. Brian Wilson
30. Paul Rodgers


This is my current opinion, though MJ could move below Redding, I really don't know. But yeah, this is my unbias evaluation of what I think the list should look like. Dickinson may be too low for you guys, but I really can't put him above Macca or Gaye, so him vs. Al Green is up for grabs. Also yes I think Charles is top 10 I have no idea why he wasn't before. Wonder is a beast vocalist with mega skill and influence, and although I love him and everything he does, his miles of skill I think still don't take Gillan. I also think Gillan wins Influence though it's close.
Author:  Classic Rock Junkie [ Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:16 am ]
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Timitzii wrote:
No, MJ belongs up there.


So does he stay at 11 in my list or move Buckley to 11 and MJ takes 10? Then is there anything else you think I'm off with? Other than MJ being 10 or 11 I'm pretty happy with my list and think I can leave it at that until you guys want to hit the 40+, this'll be my top 30 and all the contributin' I'll be doing.
Author:  Gray [ Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:46 am ]
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Classic Rock Junkie wrote:
Wonder is a beast vocalist with mega skill and influence, and although I love him and everything he does, his miles of skill I think still don't take Gillan. I also think Gillan wins Influence though it's close.

Influence could be either but I think Wonder is definitely more acclaimed than Gillan.
Author:  Bruno [ Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:56 pm ]
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1. Freddie Mercury
2. Elvis Presley
3. Robert Plant
4. Sam Cooke
5. Roy Orbison
6. Jackie Wilson
7. Stevie Wonder
8. Ian Gillan
9. Michael Jackson
10. Steve Perry

11. Marvin Gaye
12. Jeff Buckley
13. Ray Charles
14. Clyde McPhatter
15. Roger Daltrey
16. Otis Redding
17. Rob Halford
18. Little Richard
19. Paul McCartney
20. Bruce Dickinson

21. Al Green
22. Ronnie James Dio
23. James Brown
24. Jim Morrison
25. John Lennon
26. Smokey Robinson
27. Eddie Vedder
28. Steven Tyler
29. Chris Cornell
30. Brian Wilson
Author:  Bruno [ Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:57 pm ]
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Vedder and Tyler belongs in top 30.
Author:  Patrick [ Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:14 pm ]
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firstly, you don't really think john lennon or paul mccartney are greater singers than smokey robinson, right?

secondly, where would you put jerry butler, wilson pickett, roy hamilton, bill withers..?
Author:  Bruno [ Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:58 pm ]
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Patrick wrote:
firstly, you don't really think john lennon or paul mccartney are greater singers than smokey robinson, right?

Yeah, I think.

Quote:
secondly, where would you put jerry butler, wilson pickett, roy hamilton, bill withers..?


Hmm ... maybe in the 70-90 ...
Author:  Gray [ Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:03 pm ]
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We've been meaning to add Wilson Pickett.
Author:  European Son [ Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:01 pm ]
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What is the reasoning of Brad Delp over Billy Joel? No me gusta.
Author:  Gray [ Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:04 pm ]
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Don't reference the old list.
Author:  European Son [ Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:07 pm ]
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Then what exactly am I supposed to reference? It's a bit hard to find answers in 240 some pages.
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