Bruno my friend, you got 2 entries for slot 187

Fixed it, thanks!!

Whoops...

"No Country for Old Men" and "Pan's Labyrinth" before any futher 2010s entries seems really off now. Sorry to have to defend Nolan but how do you think they compare to Inception by the criteria?

@Tim/Dubrow: As the official delegate for the earliest years I want to say that The Great Train Robbery inside the next bunch seems way too lofty.

Discuss:

176. Monty Python and the Holy Grail - Terry Gilliam & Terry Jones (1975)
177. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid - George Roy Hill (1969)
178. The Adventures of Robin Hood - Michael Curtiz & William Keighley (1938)
179. WALL·E - Andrew Stanton (2008)
180. The Social Network - David Fincher (2010)
181. Godzilla - Ishirô Honda (1954)
182. Boyhood - Richard Linklater (2014)
183. Inception - Christopher Nolan (2010)
184. M*A*S*H - Robert Altman (1970)
185. Mary Poppins - Robert Stevenson (1964)
186. Ikiru - Akira Kurosawa (1952)
187. The Big Parade - King Vidor (1925)
188. No Country for Old Men - Joel & Ethan Coen (2007)
189. American Graffiti - George Lucas (1973)
190. The Jazz Singer - Alan Crosland (1927)
191. Dracula - Tod Browning (1931)
192. His Girl Friday - Howard Hawks (1940)
193. The Philadelphia Story - George Cukor (1940)
194. Ugetsu - Kenji Mizoguchi (1953)
195. Roman Holiday - William Wyler (1953)
196. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon - Ang Lee (2000)
197. A Fistful of Dollars - Sergio Leone (1964)
198. A Hard Day’s Night - Richard Lester (1964)
199. Napoléon - Abel Gance (1927)
200. Greed - Erich von Stroheim (1924)

Pan's Labyrinth vs Boyhood
Initial Acclaim: Boyhood
Lasting Critical Acclaim: Close
Lasting Audience Acclaim: Pan's Labyrinth fairly easily
Initial Popularity: Pan's Labyrinth
Lasting Popularity: Pan's Labyrinth fairly easily

Acclaim: Close, maybe Boyhood slightly
Popularity: Pan's Labyrinth fairly easily
Influence: I don't think either has a huge amount but leaning towards Pan's Labyrinth

I could see Pan's in the top 200.

I see nothing wrong with including 3-4 2000's movies, and 3 2010's movies in this crop.

Fair enough - however is 4 movies from the 20's necessary/reasonable for this section?

Though, more than anything, I think Boyhood's definitely too high on the 2010s list.

One example
Initial Acclaim: Boyhood
Lasting Critical Acclaim: Mad Max: Fury Road close
Lasting Audience Acclaim: Mad Max: Fury Road
Initial Popularity: Mad Max: Fury Road fairly easily
Lasting Popularity: Mad Max: Fury Road fairly easly

Acclaim: Boyhood by a small amount
Popularity: Mad Max: Fury Road fairly easily
Influence: Neither has much

Boyhood vs Get Out
Initial Acclaim: Boyhood
Lasting Critical Acclaim: Close maybe Boyhood slightly
Lasting Audience Acclaim: Get Out
Initial Popularity: Get Out
Lasting Popularity: Get Out fairly easily

Acclaim: Boyhood slightly
Popularity: Get Out
Influence: Probably Get Out

And another breakdown between Boyhood and The Avengers (a movie I think's much too low on the 2010s list)
Initial Acclaim: Boyhood easily
Lasting Critical Acclaim: Boyhood easily
Lasting Audience Acclaim: The Avengers
Initial Popularity: The Avengers by a landslide
Lasting Popularity: The Avengers easily

Acclaim: Boyhood easily
Popularity: The Avengers easily
Influence: The Avengers fairly easily

Also, I agree with Dubrow's breakdowns earlier in the thread for Mad Max and Inception > Social Network

I think all these 4 movies have pretty strong credentials, the Big Parade an influential war film which was a massive hit in it's day, the Jazz Singer obviously the first major 'talkie', Napoléon full of technical innovations & Greed, despite being critical and commercial failure on release, has a lot of lasting acclaim and cited as influence by a legion of filmmakers.

Boyhood seems like it had a Citizen Kane like initial acclaim and was a boundary pushing, formally innovative movie so it at least had an opportunity to be an influential/important. Don't know if it's innovations materialized into influence on other movies yet but I understand it's lofty placement on the 2010s list, given acclaim was kinda a half of criteria for it (hard to talk influence of movies this recent, for the most part).

Maybe, but it's been almost 10 years at this point and that innovation hasn't really directly inspired anything yet, so I don't think it should necessarily get credit for it.

I think a good amount of the movies high up on the 2010s list have at least some clear influence and are generally much more well rounded when audience acclaim and popularity is taken into account.

Boyhood certainly has pretty exceptional acclaim for sure - I think in fact it might be the single highest rated film on Metacritic. While we haven't a trend of "movies that were filmed slowly over 12 years" or anything, it certainly was boundary-pushing - and it certainly brought Linklater into a new spotlight with the film industry/awards season after an already great career. Having said that, it doesn't particularly score well outside of acclaim, which is why I would think both Mad Max + Inception would be better candidates. I don't think it necessarily needs to be moved down out of the top 10 or anything as well.

I think Monty Python should probably be below Butch Cassidy and Adventures of Robin Hood, both easily take initial acclaim and popularity and take lasting critical acclam as well with The Adventures of Robin Hood is also being more influential.

Let's Try This

176. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid - George Roy Hill (1969)
177. The Adventures of Robin Hood - Michael Curtiz & William Keighley (1938)
178. Monty Python and the Holy Grail - Terry Gilliam & Terry Jones (1975)
179. WALL·E - Andrew Stanton (2008)
180. Inception - Christopher Nolan (2010)
181. Godzilla - Ishirô Honda (1954)
182. Mad Max: Fury Road - George Miller (2015)
183. M*A*S*H - Robert Altman (1970)
184. Mary Poppins - Robert Stevenson (1964)
185. Ikiru - Akira Kurosawa (1952)
186. The Social Network - David Fincher (2010)
187. The Big Parade - King Vidor (1925)
188. No Country for Old Men - Joel & Ethan Coen (2007)
189. American Graffiti - George Lucas (1973)
190. The Jazz Singer - Alan Crosland (1927)
191. Dracula - Tod Browning (1931)
192. His Girl Friday - Howard Hawks (1940)
193. The Philadelphia Story - George Cukor (1940)
194. Ugetsu - Kenji Mizoguchi (1953)
195. Roman Holiday - William Wyler (1953)
196. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon - Ang Lee (2000)
197. A Fistful of Dollars - Sergio Leone (1964)
198. A Hard Day’s Night - Richard Lester (1964)
199. Napoléon - Abel Gance (1927)
200. Greed - Erich von Stroheim (1924)