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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Movies
PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:47 pm 
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Edited mine to include The Avengers because it slipped my mind for some reason.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Movies
PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 1:02 pm 
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Avengers > Get Out is something I would seriously be against.

One thing I want to point out about The Avengers - obviously it is very popular and has some influence - but we are also talking about a movie that is deep in the 4,000's on TSPDT. Something like "Avatar" at least is just outside 1,000. So I'm kinda starting to question why a movie with such little critical acclaim can leapfrog so far just based on popularity and some influence.

This is how I would see the breakdown:

Popularity: obviously Avengers by a lot
Acclaim: Get Out by a lot
Influence: close, but I would give the edge to Get Out for pushing the boundaries of modern horror, Jordan Peele's breakout, Daniel Kaluuya's breakout, and a direct influence on race-based horror films such as Antebellum (2020), His House (2020), and The Invitation (2022)


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Movies
PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 4:57 pm 
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All the Avenger's influence is basically on trends in the industry in the last 10 years. It has little influence on how movies are actually made. That still makes it more influential than most 2010s movies though, so it depends on how you decide to weight it against older films.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Movies
PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:00 pm 
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201. Brief Encounter - David Lean (1945)
202. In the Heat of the Night - Norman Jewison (1967)
203. Dirty Harry - Don Siegel (1971)
204. Scarface - Howard Hawks (1932)
205. Out of the Past - Jacques Tourneur (1947)
206. The Public Enemy - William A. Wellman (1931)
207. Easy Rider - Dennis Hopper (1969)
208. Ghostbusters - Ivan Reitman (1984)
209. Network - Sidney Lumet (1976)
210. Beauty and the Beast - Jean Cocteau (1946)
211. L'avventura - Michaelangelo Antonioni (1960)
212. Airplane! - Jerry Zucker, Jim Abrahams, and David Zucker (1980)
213. The Crowd - King Vidor (1928)
214. Ran - Akira Kurosawa (1985)
215. Once Upon a Time in America - Sergio Leone (1984)
216. The Wages of Fear - Henri-Georges Clouzot (1953)
217. The Asphalt Jungle - John Huston (1950)
218. Cabaret - Bob Fosse (1972)
219. Freaks - Tod Browning (1932)
220. Finding Nemo - Andrew Stanton & Lee Unkrich (2003)
221. Manhattan - Woody Allen (1979)
222. American Beauty - Sam Mendes (1999)
223. Se7en - David Fincher (1995)
224. Mean Streets - Martin Scorsese (1973)
225. Pan's Labyrinth - Guillermo del Toro (2006)


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Movies
PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:03 pm 
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I could see it either way, but I suppose I'd lean more toward Get Out > Avengers.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Movies
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Discuss:

201. In the Heat of the Night - Norman Jewison (1967)
202. Easy Rider - Dennis Hopper (1969)
203. The Crowd - King Vidor (1928)
204. Steamboat Willie - Walt Disney & Ub Iwerks (1928)
205. L'avventura - Michaelangelo Antonioni (1960)
206. Get Out - Jordan Peele (2017)
207. Scarface - Howard Hawks (1932)
208. The Avengers - Joss Whedon (2012)
209. The Battle of Algiers - Gillo Pontecorvo (1966)
210. American Beauty - Sam Mendes (1999)
211. The Wages of Fear - Henri-Georges Clouzot (1953)
212. Dirty Harry - Don Siegel (1971)
213. Ghostbusters - Ivan Reitman (1984)
214. The Asphalt Jungle - John Huston (1950)
215. Network - Sidney Lumet (1976)
216. Finding Nemo - Andrew Stanton & Lee Unkrich (2003)
217. Breakfast at Tiffany's - Blake Edwards (1961)
218. Pan's Labyrinth - Guillermo del Toro (2006)
219. Cabaret - Bob Fosse (1972)
220. Brief Encounter - David Lean (1945)
221. Out of the Past - Jacques Tourneur (1947)
222. The Public Enemy - William A. Wellman (1931)
223. Beauty and the Beast - Jean Cocteau (1946)
224. Airplane! - Jerry Zucker, Jim Abrahams, and David Zucker (1980)
225. Se7en - David Fincher (1995)


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Movies
PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 7:46 pm 
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I'd have American Beauty a few spots lower. I think Wages of Fear takes acclaim and influence fairly clearly and Ghostbusters takes popularity and influence fairly clearly.

Also I'd say Finding Nemo is clearly less acclaimed and influential than some of the films below it such as Brokeback Mountain and Memento or even The Two Towers which should probably be a bit higher on the 2000s listso I wouldn't have it in this range.

Otherwise, I'll take it.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Movies
PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:41 pm 
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ManPerson wrote:
I'd have American Beauty a few spots lower. I think Wages of Fear takes acclaim and influence fairly clearly and Ghostbusters takes popularity and influence fairly clearly.

Also I'd say Finding Nemo is clearly less acclaimed and influential than some of the films below it such as Brokeback Mountain and Memento or even The Two Towers which should probably be a bit higher on the 2000s listso I wouldn't have it in this range.

Otherwise, I'll take it.


Like Tim said earlier, Finding Nemo has pretty outstanding lasting and initial popularity, so I'm pretty okay with where it has ended up.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Movies
PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:45 pm 
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Tim wrote:
Discuss:

201. In the Heat of the Night - Norman Jewison (1967)
202. Easy Rider - Dennis Hopper (1969)
203. The Crowd - King Vidor (1928)
204. Steamboat Willie - Walt Disney & Ub Iwerks (1928)
205. L'avventura - Michaelangelo Antonioni (1960)
206. Get Out - Jordan Peele (2017)
207. Scarface - Howard Hawks (1932)
208. The Avengers - Joss Whedon (2012)
209. The Battle of Algiers - Gillo Pontecorvo (1966)
210. American Beauty - Sam Mendes (1999)
211. The Wages of Fear - Henri-Georges Clouzot (1953)
212. Dirty Harry - Don Siegel (1971)
213. Ghostbusters - Ivan Reitman (1984)
214. The Asphalt Jungle - John Huston (1950)
215. Network - Sidney Lumet (1976)
216. Finding Nemo - Andrew Stanton & Lee Unkrich (2003)
217. Breakfast at Tiffany's - Blake Edwards (1961)
218. Pan's Labyrinth - Guillermo del Toro (2006)
219. Cabaret - Bob Fosse (1972)
220. Brief Encounter - David Lean (1945)
221. Out of the Past - Jacques Tourneur (1947)
222. The Public Enemy - William A. Wellman (1931)
223. Beauty and the Beast - Jean Cocteau (1946)
224. Airplane! - Jerry Zucker, Jim Abrahams, and David Zucker (1980)
225. Se7en - David Fincher (1995)


Beauty and the Beast 1946 feels very out of place in this crop. I think Beauty and the Beast 1991 version certainly has better lasting popularity and maybe even more influence? I don't see how it could even be ahead of something like Se7en based on the criteria.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Movies
PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:54 pm 
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I would probably give Cocteau's Beauty and the Beast influence and acclaim over Disney's one. Hardly a surprise a Disney movie has more lasting popularity than the 1940s French one.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Movies
PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:58 pm 
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Tim wrote:
I would probably give Cocteau's Beauty and the Beast influence and acclaim over Disney's one. Hardly a surprise a Disney movie has more lasting popularity than the 1940s French one.

Hardly a surprise that one of the most acclaimed Jean Cocteau films beats one of the most acclaimed Disney movies in acclaim.

But yes, I agree.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Movies
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Lol, fair I guess.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Movies
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Discuss 2.0:

201. In the Heat of the Night - Norman Jewison (1967)
202. Easy Rider - Dennis Hopper (1969)
203. The Crowd - King Vidor (1928)
204. Steamboat Willie - Walt Disney & Ub Iwerks (1928)
205. L'avventura - Michaelangelo Antonioni (1960)
206. Get Out - Jordan Peele (2017)
207. Scarface - Howard Hawks (1932)
208. The Avengers - Joss Whedon (2012)
209. The Battle of Algiers - Gillo Pontecorvo (1966)
210. The Wages of Fear - Henri-Georges Clouzot (1953)
211. Dirty Harry - Don Siegel (1971)
212. Ghostbusters - Ivan Reitman (1984)
213. American Beauty - Sam Mendes (1999)
214. The Asphalt Jungle - John Huston (1950)
215. Network - Sidney Lumet (1976)
216. Finding Nemo - Andrew Stanton & Lee Unkrich (2003)
217. Breakfast at Tiffany's - Blake Edwards (1961)
218. Pan's Labyrinth - Guillermo del Toro (2006)
219. Cabaret - Bob Fosse (1972)
220. Brief Encounter - David Lean (1945)
221. Out of the Past - Jacques Tourneur (1947)
222. The Public Enemy - William A. Wellman (1931)
223. Airplane! - Jerry Zucker, Jim Abrahams, and David Zucker (1980)
224. Se7en - David Fincher (1995)
225. Brokeback Mountain - Ang Lee (2005)


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Movies
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Fair on both count, but could 40's Beauty and the Beast at least move below "Se7en?" Even if it's a bit more acclaimed, Se7en destroys in popularity and maybe even wins influence.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Movies
PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:24 pm 
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Tim wrote:
Discuss 2.0:

201. In the Heat of the Night - Norman Jewison (1967)
202. Easy Rider - Dennis Hopper (1969)
203. The Crowd - King Vidor (1928)
204. Steamboat Willie - Walt Disney & Ub Iwerks (1928)
205. L'avventura - Michaelangelo Antonioni (1960)
206. Get Out - Jordan Peele (2017)
207. Scarface - Howard Hawks (1932)
208. The Avengers - Joss Whedon (2012)
209. The Battle of Algiers - Gillo Pontecorvo (1966)
210. The Wages of Fear - Henri-Georges Clouzot (1953)
211. Dirty Harry - Don Siegel (1971)
212. Ghostbusters - Ivan Reitman (1984)
213. American Beauty - Sam Mendes (1999)
214. The Asphalt Jungle - John Huston (1950)
215. Network - Sidney Lumet (1976)
216. Finding Nemo - Andrew Stanton & Lee Unkrich (2003)
217. Breakfast at Tiffany's - Blake Edwards (1961)
218. Pan's Labyrinth - Guillermo del Toro (2006)
219. Cabaret - Bob Fosse (1972)
220. Brief Encounter - David Lean (1945)
221. Out of the Past - Jacques Tourneur (1947)
222. The Public Enemy - William A. Wellman (1931)
223. Airplane! - Jerry Zucker, Jim Abrahams, and David Zucker (1980)
224. Se7en - David Fincher (1995)
225. Brokeback Mountain - Ang Lee (2005)


Yes - I would prefer this comprimise.


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