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I tell you one thing the guitar solos on "Something" and "Let It Be" are actually better than many of the solos I have heard Pete attempt. Also George really did have a unique slide style. They were different guitarists.

I'm quite familiar with the "Bourée" story, thank you very much. He does not say that "Blackbird" features any classical playing, and it doesn't. Influenced by a classical piece, but not a classical piece. It's more of a folky kinda tune. Donovan-inspired, if I'm not mistaken.

Musicfan67 wrote:

Well, George has it all over Pete when it comes to slide guitar, I'll give you that. I'm not sure if Pete has ever even attempted slide guitar. Here's my favorite Pete Townshend guitar solo: http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/The+Q ... ive+/qSseD

It seems he saved all his best soloing for the concert stage.

:lol: your link demonstrates further what i said... it's not classical guitar and paul couldn't play classicl guitar to save his life... blackbird has classical influence, but it's not classical guitar... just like elp has classical influences but they're not a classical ensemble... capisci?

Interesting the song had an impact on Carlos Santana: A Biography By Norman Weinstein

I think he's saying the song had an impact on the writing of the Carlos Santana biography Carlos Santana: A Biography, written by Norman Weinstein. Pretty amazing how wide The Beatles' influence spreads.

Georgi wrote:

Santana was influenced by The Beatles. On Lotus, as part of a jam he plays a little of Fool on the Hill.

Author:	ClashWho [ Sun Jan 02, 2011 12:46 am ]
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Musicfan67 wrote: I tell you one thing the guitar solos on "Something" and "Let It Be" are actually better than many of the solos I have heard Pete attempt. Also George really did have a unique slide style. They were different guitarists. Well, George has it all over Pete when it comes to slide guitar, I'll give you that. I'm not sure if Pete has ever even attempted slide guitar. Here's my favorite Pete Townshend guitar solo: http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/The+Q ... ive+/qSseD It seems he saved all his best soloing for the concert stage.

Author:	Musicfan67 [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:59 am ]
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Yngtchie Blacksteen wrote: I'm quite familiar with the "Bourée" story, thank you very much. He does not say that "Blackbird" features any classical playing, and it doesn't. Influenced by a classical piece, but not a classical piece. It's more of a folky kinda tune. Donovan-inspired, if I'm not mistaken. Paul had a unique fingerpicking style and you can first hear it on "Yesterday" in which that song has some classical influence even without the string arrangement. It was Donovan who taught John Lennon the Travis picking style that you hear on "Julia". The Beatles had classical influences you can hear it on "Because" guitar arpeggios I think Lennon on guitar for that song. I think we were talking about "And I Love Her". Yes it has Latin styled arpeggios but it was the end of the song George Harrison were it sounds very classically influenced. Interesting the song had an impact on Carlos Santana: A Biography By Norman Weinstein. As for "Till There Was You" I still think George is cross fusing jazz and Latin in his guitar playing on that track. But we disagree so let's move on. Another Latin influenced song was "I'll Be Back" this has Flamenco arpeggios and I think very nicely played by George. I think George was great but not as good as say Roger McGuinn in using arpeggios. He was better at writing them with songs like "Here Comes The Sun" and "You Never Give Me Your Money" both great guitar arpeggios styled songs.

Author:	Musicfan67 [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:09 am ]
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ClashWho wrote: Musicfan67 wrote: I tell you one thing the guitar solos on "Something" and "Let It Be" are actually better than many of the solos I have heard Pete attempt. Also George really did have a unique slide style. They were different guitarists. Well, George has it all over Pete when it comes to slide guitar, I'll give you that. I'm not sure if Pete has ever even attempted slide guitar. Here's my favorite Pete Townshend guitar solo: http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/The+Q ... ive+/qSseD It seems he saved all his best soloing for the concert stage. I have Pete over George Harrison but I was listening to George guitar work on "You Never Give Me Your Money" and "Sun King" in which the guitar tones sound as good as anything Pete did. Pete was such a great rhythm player and also innovative in his own right. George guitar work improved leaps and bounds because he basically played the sitar for over a year. A point Geoff Emerick made once that George devoloped into a great guitarist because he learned a lot from playing the sitar. I think by 1968-1969 he was better that Keith Richards and on par with Pete Townshend.

Author:	Yngtchie Blacksteen [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:20 am ]
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"Flamenco arpeggios"? What do you even mean by that? I really don't know what you're trying to do with all these long-winded posts that just keep describing the guitar tracks in all kinds of fancy ways, not to mention all the book references. I have ears. I don't need books to tell me that George Harrison did or didn't play. If you really are unhappy about Harrison's placement on the list, which I wouldn't be, can't you just try and form a reasonable argument? Compare him to the players you feel he should move ahead of, and actually make an effort to convince us. I wanna be challenged here, but all you're serving me is more of these empty little words and sentences that don't actually tell me anything.

Author:	Echoes [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:00 pm ]
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George wrote: :lol: your link demonstrates further what i said... it's not classical guitar and paul couldn't play classicl guitar to save his life... blackbird has classical influence, but it's not classical guitar... just like elp has classical influences but they're not a classical ensemble... capisci? I know that he has lost some chops (at almost 70 who wouldn’t?). Anyway, back in the 60´s he was able to play as good as any and IMO Blackbird is better than Dee

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Author:	Echoes [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:04 pm ]
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This is the concert I went: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oY0KUQB35E On that clip, is he saying that he played guitar on Paperback Writer?

Author:	Forgotten Son [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:21 pm ]
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MusicFan67 wrote: Interesting the song had an impact on Carlos Santana: A Biography By Norman Weinstein Say what?

Author:	Georgi [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:24 pm ]
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I think he's saying the song had an impact on the writing of the Carlos Santana biography Carlos Santana: A Biography, written by Norman Weinstein. Pretty amazing how wide The Beatles' influence spreads.

Author:	Echoes [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:30 pm ]
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Can you guys help me with this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oY0KUQB35E On that clip, at the beginning, is he saying that he played guitar on Paperback Writer? Is that what he means? I´m asking because I have always thought that Paperback Writer was a Harrison/Lennon guitar work. But know it seems is a McCartney/Harrison.

Author:	Echoes [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:32 pm ]
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Georgi wrote: I think he's saying the song had an impact on the writing of the Carlos Santana biography Carlos Santana: A Biography, written by Norman Weinstein. Pretty amazing how wide The Beatles' influence spreads. Santana was influenced by The Beatles. On Lotus, as part of a jam he plays a little of Fool on the Hill.

Author:	Ariel [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:01 pm ]
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Well, if nothing else I think we can all agree that it was a travesty when George was in the mid 50s on this list...

Author:	Musicfan67 [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:41 pm ]
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Georgi wrote: I think he's saying the song had an impact on the writing of the Carlos Santana biography Carlos Santana: A Biography, written by Norman Weinstein. Pretty amazing how wide The Beatles' influence spreads. Carlos was saying "And I Love Her" was an important early influence on him. He mentions it in the book "Carlos Santana: A Biography", written by Norman Weinstein. I have seen him mention also "P.S I Love You" as another song that influenced him. Of course Carlos Santana fused that Latin Rock style into a much more progressive style than anything that came before him.

Author:	ClashWho [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:45 pm ]
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Echoes wrote: Georgi wrote: I think he's saying the song had an impact on the writing of the Carlos Santana biography Carlos Santana: A Biography, written by Norman Weinstein. Pretty amazing how wide The Beatles' influence spreads. Santana was influenced by The Beatles. On Lotus, as part of a jam he plays a little of Fool on the Hill. Wow.

Author:	Echoes [ Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:46 pm ]
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