probably because he's the only one on the list who's never played drunk or high
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| Author: | Georgi [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Greatest Live Rock Guitarists |
Taro wrote: Georgi wrote: Taro wrote: Georgi wrote: That's constitutes 80% of his Zeppelin career, so it's all good. So you mean that if a guitarist is good only for 4 years, and then he becomes sloppy, he still is a great live guitarist? Everyone's good in his pinnacle. Of course, would you argue that Jimi Hendrix isn't a great live guitarist? Hendrix never became sloppy. That's not strictly true. Anyway, becoming sloppy is irrelevant. Page was a great live guitarist for 5 years which included 80% of the shows he played with Led Zeppelin. After that, he had drug and tendon problems. They shouldn't have to much bearing on his position on the list. |
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| Author: | Taro [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Greatest Live Rock Guitarists |
Georgi wrote: That's not strictly true. Anyway, becoming sloppy is irrelevant. Page was a great live guitarist for 5 years which included 80% of the shows he played with Led Zeppelin. After that, he had drug and tendon problems. They shouldn't have to much bearing on his position on the list. Define sloppy |
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| Author: | Gray [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Greatest Live Rock Guitarists |
We all know what sloppy means. Sloppy guitar playing is a part of the live experience. I don't have a particular taste for it, but I really wouldn't count people too much down on that account. |
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| Author: | Taro [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Greatest Live Rock Guitarists |
a_man_named_gray wrote: We all know what sloppy means. Sloppy guitar playing is a part of the live experience. I don't have a particular taste for it, but I really wouldn't count people too much down on that account. Please define sloppy playing |
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| Author: | Gray [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:45 pm ] |
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I think sloppy playing is when the playing has a lack of fluidity. Notes are left out of the proper sequence or unnecessary notes are added in that seem to delude what the proper phrasing would be. Playing at a frantic speed often seems sloppy to me. |
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| Author: | rockvirtuoso [ Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Greatest Live Rock Guitarists |
Taro wrote: a_man_named_gray wrote: We all know what sloppy means. Sloppy guitar playing is a part of the live experience. I don't have a particular taste for it, but I really wouldn't count people too much down on that account. Please define sloppy playing unclear articulation of the notes, typically hidden under wah or other gratuitous distortion approaches. basically everyone on the list except eric johnson has played sloppy to some degree at some stage |
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| Author: | George [ Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Greatest Live Rock Guitarists |
| probably because he's the only one on the list who's never played drunk or high
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| Author: | Negative Creep [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Greatest Live Rock Guitarists |
Taro wrote: Georgi wrote: Taro wrote: Georgi wrote: That's constitutes 80% of his Zeppelin career, so it's all good. So you mean that if a guitarist is good only for 4 years, and then he becomes sloppy, he still is a great live guitarist? Everyone's good in his pinnacle. Of course, would you argue that Jimi Hendrix isn't a great live guitarist? Hendrix never became sloppy.
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| Author: | Gray [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Greatest Live Rock Guitarists |
It could be argued that Hendrix was even sloppy in the studio at times. |
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| Author: | Negative Creep [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:16 pm ] |
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Toward the end of his career, he got really bad. Ted Nugent, among others, remembers seeing Jimi around 1970 and being so disappointed that he walked out. |
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| Author: | Yousha [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Greatest Live Rock Guitarists |
Hence, Ted Nugent is voted as one of the greatest assholes in music history .... 
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| Author: | rockvirtuoso [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Greatest Live Rock Guitarists |
George wrote: :lol: probably because he's the only one on the list who's never played drunk or high for sure. what a legend. even satch was cockeyed at the original G3. good old satch
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| Author: | Echoes [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Greatest Live Rock Guitarists |
George wrote: :lol: probably because he's the only one on the list who's never played drunk or high Another prove that Johnson is NOT a rock guitarists!!! 
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| Author: | Forgotten Son [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:12 am ] |
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Derr herr herr. |
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| Author: | Yousha [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:16 am ] |
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rare genuinely amusing post by Echoes which makes some sense .... i tip my hat to you for that Echoes .... |
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