100 Greatest Rock Guitarists (Alternative Version)

Echoes · **Joined:** Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:43 am **Posts:** 4564

Shuure wrote:

You're thinking of moving Dimebag up to 50 while keeping Cobain at the same spot after the argument I presented without you refuting any of the points?

Legendary status: Cobain. As mentioned and backed up by external sources, Cobain single-handed destroyed the 80´s, started the grunge movement and changed the world of music forever. All of that thanks to his guitar playing. He is included on almost all greatest guitarists lists and he is easily the most legendary guitarist from the last 20 years.

Influence on both other players as well as on styles of playing: Cobain. Since 1991 most rock guitarists play like Cobain. The guitar style of the 80´s is irrelevant nowadays. Rock guitar history can be divided between pre-Cobain and post-Cobain. You can hear Cobain´s guitar influence on many great bands like: Radiohead (My Iron Lung), Blur (Song #2), Foo Fighters, Offspring, Green Day, Them Crooked Vultures, Silverchair, Rise Against, Bush, Incubus, Weezer, blink-182, etc, etc, etc. (plus fucking imitators like Creed and Nickelback).

Originality: Cobain. He has one of the most distinctive and original guitar sounds in the history of rock guitar. His tone on many of his solos is also highly original and easily recognizable.

Creativity: Cobain. This is the songwriting department and Cobain is among the best ever. Smells Like Teen Spirit is easily among the top 15 guitar songs ever. Nevermind, remains one of the greatest guitar rock albums ever and is #3 on Acclaim.com list of greatest albums. His solos on SLTS and In Bloom are also highly acclaim (included in the Top 100 greatest solos by Guitar World). Unplugged is also a great rock guitar album.

Live / Improvisational skills: Tie

Versatility: Tie

Technique: Dimebag

Echoes · **Joined:** Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:43 am **Posts:** 4564

Shuure wrote:

While I'm a bit torn myself, I'm guessing we'll have to give Petrucci the title of greatest metal guitarist of the past 20 years. I really enjoy Petrucci, but personally I think Dimebag eats him. Funfact is that Dimebag was the original guitarist Portnoy wanted for Liquid Tension Experiment and when he couldn't, he decided to use Petrucci (which probably was a better fit, especially considering the music they put out, which kicks ass).

After a second thought, I think it goes to Cantrell.

:metal:

Echoes · **Joined:** Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:43 am **Posts:** 4564

I am going to update the list.

Any more suggestions?

Forgotten Son · **Posted:** Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:52 pm

Sodacake · **Posted:** Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:54 pm

Echoes wrote:

Shuure wrote:

You're thinking of moving Dimebag up to 50 while keeping Cobain at the same spot after the argument I presented without you refuting any of the points?

Legendary status: Cobain. As mentioned and backed up by external sources, Cobain single-handed destroyed the 80´s, started the grunge movement and changed the world of music forever. All of that thanks to his guitar playing. He is included on almost all greatest guitarists lists and he is easily the most legendary guitarist from the last 20 years.

Influence on both other players as well as on styles of playing: Cobain. Since 1991 most rock guitarists play like Cobain. The guitar style of the 80´s is irrelevant nowadays. Rock guitar history can be divided between pre-Cobain and post-Cobain. You can hear Cobain´s guitar influence on many great bands like: Radiohead (My Iron Lung), Blur (Song #2), Foo Fighters, Offspring, Green Day, Them Crooked Vultures, Silverchair, Rise Against, Bush, Incubus, Weezer, blink-182, etc, etc, etc. (plus fucking imitators like Creed and Nickelback).

Originality: Cobain. He has one of the most distinctive and original guitar sounds in the history of rock guitar. His tone on many of his solos is also highly original and easily recognizable.

Creativity: Cobain. This is the songwriting department and Cobain is among the best ever. Smells Like Teen Spirit is easily among the top 15 guitar songs ever. Nevermind, remains one of the greatest guitar rock albums ever and is #3 on Acclaim.com list of greatest albums. His solos on SLTS and In Bloom are also highly acclaim (included in the Top 100 greatest solos by Guitar World). Unplugged is also a great rock guitar album.

Live / Improvisational skills: Tie

Versatility: Tie

Technique: Dimebag

stop living in denial

Echoes · **Joined:** Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:43 am **Posts:** 4564

I can back up all of those arguments with external sources.

Echoes · **Joined:** Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:43 am **Posts:** 4564

From Gibson:

Nevermind, released in ’91, remains one of the greatest guitar rock albums ever.

http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/F ... ns_%20Nir/

Sherick · **Joined:** Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:22 pm **Posts:** 10453

You really don't read anybody's posts do you?

Echoes · **Joined:** Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:43 am **Posts:** 4564

100 Greatest Guitar Songs of All Time
Rolling Stone

1. Johnny B Goode - Chuck Berry
2. Purple Haze - Jimi Hendrix Experience
3. Crossroads - Cream
4. You Really Got Me - Kinks
5. Brown Sugar - Rolling Stones
6. Eruption - Van Halen
7. While My Guitar Gently Weeps - Beatles
8. Stairway To Heaven - Led Zeppelin
9. Statesboro Blues - Allman Brothers Band
10. Smells Like Teen Spirit - Nirvana
11. Whole Lotta Love - Led Zeppelin
12. Voodoo Child (Slight Return) - Jimi Hendrix Experience
13. Layla - Derek & the Dominos
14. Born To Run - Bruce Springsteen
15. My Generation - Who
16. Cowgirl in the Sand - Neil Young with Crazy Horse
17. Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath
18. Blitzkrieg Bop - Ramones
19. Purple Rain - Prince & the Revolution
20. People Get Ready - Impressions
21. Seven Nation Army - White Stripes
22. A Hard Day’s Night! - Beatles
23. Over Under Sideways Down - Yardbirds
24. Killing in the Name - Rage Against the Machine
25. Can’t You Hear Me Knocking - Rolling Stones
26. How Blue Can You Get - BB King
27. Look Over Yonders Wall - Paul Butterfield Blues Band
28. Where the Streets Have No Name - U2
29. Back in Black - AC/DC
30. Rock Around the Clock - Bill Haley & His Comets
31. Keep Yourself Alive - Queen
32. Sultans of Swing - Dire Straits
33. Master of Puppets - Metallica
34. Walk This Way - Aerosmith
35. 1969 - Stooges
36. Interstellar Overdrive - Pink Floyd
37. That’s All Right - Elvis Presley
38. Stay with Me - Faces
39. Black Magic Woman - Santana
40. I Can See for Miles - Who
41. Marquee Moon - Television
42. Hideaway - John Mayall’s Blues breakers
43. Holidays in the Sun - Sex Pistols
44. Dig Me Out - Sleater-Kinney
45. I Saw Her Standing There - Beatles
46. Misirlou - Dick Dale & His Del-Tones
47. Panama - Van Halen
48. London Calling - Clash
49. Machine Gun - Jimi Hendrix Experience
50. Debaser - Pixies
51. Crazy Train - Ozzy Osbourne
52. My Iron Lung - Radiohead
53. Born on the Bayou - Creedence Clearwater Revival
54. Little Wing - Stevie Ray Vaughan & Double Trouble
55. White Room - Cream
56. Eight Miles High - Byrds
57. Dark Star - Grateful Dead
58. Rumble - Link Wray & His Ray Men
59. Freeway Jam - Jeff Beck
60. Maggot Brain - Funkadelic
61. Soul Man - Sam & Dave
62. Born Under a Bad Sign - Albert King
63. Sweet Child O’ Mine - Guns N’ Roses
64. Free Bird - Lynyrd Skynyrd
65. Message in a Bottle - Police
66. Texas Flood - Stevie Ray Vaughan & Double Trouble
67. Adam Raised a Cain - Bruce Springsteen
68. Thrill is Gone - BB King
69. Money - Pink Floyd
70. Bullet with Butterfly Wings - Smashing Pumpkins
71. Take It Or Leave It - Strokes
72. Say It Ain’t So - Weezer
73. Summertime Blues - Blue Cheer
74. La Grange - ZZ Top
75. Willie the Pimp - Frank Zappa featuring Captain Beefheart
76. American Girl - Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers
77. Even Flow - Pearl Jam
78. Stone Crazy - Buddy Guy
79. Silver Rocket - Sonic Youth
80. Kid Charlemagne - Steely Dan
81. Beat It - Michael Jackson - Eddie Van Halen
82. Walk Don’t Run - Ventures
83. What I Got - Sublime
84. Gravity - John Mayer
85. You Enjoy Myself - Phish
86. I Ain’t Superstitious - Jeff Beck
87. Red - King Crimson
88. Mona - Quicksilver Messenger Service
89. I Love Rock ‘n’ Roll - Joan Jett & the Blackhearts
90. How Soon Is Now? - Smiths
91. Drunkship of Lanterns - Mars Volta
92. Memo from Turner - Mick Jagger
93. Only Shallow - My Bloody Valentine
94. Money for Nothing - Dire Straits
95. Omaha - Moby Grape
96. New Day Rising - Hüsker Dü
97. No One Knows - Queens of the Stone Age
98. Under the Bridge - Red Hot Chili Peppers
99. Run Thru - My Morning Jacket
100. Vicarious - Tool

Sodacake · **Posted:** Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:03 am

honk if you're horny

Echoes · **Joined:** Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:43 am **Posts:** 4564

Q Magazine - 100 Greatest Guitar Tracks Ever
From Q#224 March 2005

1. Jimi Hendrix – Purple Haze
2. The Rolling Stones – Jumpin’ Jack Flash
3. Led Zeppelin – Whole Lotta’ Love
4. Nirvana – Smells Like Teen Sprit
5. The Beatles – Helter Skelter
6. Guns N’ Roses – Sweet Child Of Mine
7. The Who – Won’t Get Fooled Again
8. The White Stripes – Seven Nation Army
9. The Kinks – You Really Got Me
10. The Stone Roses – I Am The Resurrection
11. Black Sabbath – Paranoid
12. Deep Purple – Smoke On The Water
13. The Stooges – I Wanna Be Your Dog
14. Blur – Song 2
15. Radiohead – Creep
16. AC/DC – Whole Lotta’ Rosie (Live)
17. John Lee Hooker – Boom Boom
18. The Velvet Underground – Sweet Jane
19. Cream – Sunshine Of Your Love
20. Oasis – Supersonic
21. Pixies – Debaser
22. Metalica – Master Of Puppets
23. Aerosmith – Walk This Way
24. Rage Againsed The Machine – Killing In The Name
25. Pink Floyd – Shine On You Crazy Diamond
26. Sex Pistols – Pretty Vacant
27. Motorhead – Ace Of Spades
28. The Smiths – How Soon Is Now
29. Van Halen – Eruption
30. Red Hot Chilli Peppers – Can’t Stop
31. Ramones – Blitzkrieg Bop
32. Neil Young – Like A Hurricane
33. Queen – Now I’m Here
34. The Clash – White Riot
35. My Bloody Valentine – You Made Me Realise
36. T.Rex – Get It On
37. Fleetwood Mac – Albatross
38. Thin Lizzy – The Boys Are Back In Town
39. MC5 – Kick Out Thejams
40. Prince – Purple Rain
41. Franz Ferdinand – Take Me Out
42. Chuck Berry – Johnny B. Goode
43. Derek And The Dominos – Laya
44. Muse – Stockholm Syndrome
45. Public Image – Public Image
46. Beastie Boys – Sabotage
47. The Darkness – I Believe In A Thing Called Love
48. Can – Mother Sky
49. Howlin’ Wolf – Smokestack Lightnin’
50. The Byrds – Eight Miles High
51. Television – Marquee Moon
52. Gang Of Four – At Home He’s A Tourist
53. Captain Beefheart – Big Eyed Beans From Venus
54. The Hives – Hate You Say I Told You So
55. Elvis Presley – Hound Dog
56. David Bowie – Heroes
57. R.E.M. – The One I Love
58. U2 – Vertigo
59. Echo And The Bunnymen – Rescue
60. Lynyrd Skynyrd – Freebird
61. The Yardbirds – Shape Of Things
62. Slade – Cum On Feel The Noise
63. Joy Division – Shadowplay
64. Bo Diddley – Bo Diddley
65. Iron Maden – Phantom Of The Opera
66. The Strokes – Last Night
67. Smashing Pumpkins – Cherub Rock
68. The Sonics – Strychnine
69. Sonic Youth – Teenage Riot
70. Queens Of The Stoneage – No One Knows
71. Funkadelic – Maggot Brain
72. The Cult – She Sells Sanctuary
73. The Jam – Going Underground
74. John Lennon – Cold Turkey
75. Faith No More – Everything’s Ruined
76. Boston – More Than A Feeling
77. Eddie Cochran – Summertime Blues
78. Dinosaur Jr. – Freak Scene
79. PJ Harvey – 50 Ft Queenie
80. Bob Dylan – All Along The Watchtower
81. Magazine – Shot Both Side
82. Verve – Slide Away
83. The Only Ones – Another Girl Another Planet
84. Sly And The Family Stone – I Want To Take You Higher
85. Joan Jett And The Blackhearts – I Love Rock And Roll
86. Spaceman 3 – Revolution
87. Link Ray And His Ray Men – Rumble
88. Husker Du – Friend, You’ve Got To Fall
89. Dick Dale & His Del Tones – Misirlou
90. Siouxsie & The Banshees – Hong Kong Garden
91. Interpol – Obstacle 1
92. ZZ Top – La Grange
93. Korn – Blind
94. Foo Fighters – All My Life
95. Steely Dan – Reelin’ In The Years
96. The Shadows – Apache
97. Suede – Animal Nitrate
98. The Jesus And Mary Chain – Sidewalking
99. Richard And Linda Thompson – Shoot Out The Lights
100. The Osmands – Crazy Horses

Sodacake · **Posted:** Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:05 am

herp derp

Echoes · **Joined:** Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:43 am **Posts:** 4564

Gibson have Cobain at #49.

The Nirvana frontman recoiled against technical proficiency but there’s a good reason why people are still trying to emulate the dirty, pummeling riffs of “Smells Like Teen Spirit” nearly two decades after Cobain first played them. Even though he was a left-handed guitarist who, even after success came fast and hard, adamantly stuck with the junk shop models that would barely stay in tune when he played, Cobain had a totally unique ability to harness power. “I'm the first to admit that I’m no virtuoso,” he once said. “I can’t play like Segovia. The flip side of that is that Segovia could probably never have played like me.”

http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/F ... rists-524/

Echoes · **Joined:** Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:43 am **Posts:** 4564

Rolling Stone have Cobain at #12:

"Grunge" was always a lousy, limited way to describe the music Kurt Cobain made with Nirvana and, in particular, his discipline and ambition as a guitarist. His cannonballs of fuzz and feedback bonfires on 1991's Nevermind announced the death of 1980s stadium guitar rock. Cobain also reconciled his multiple obsessions — the Beatles, hardcore punk, the fatalist folk blues of Lead Belly — into a truly alternative rock that bloomed in the eccentric, gripping hooks and chord changes of "Smells Like Teen Spirit" and "Come as You Are." Recorded six months before Cobain's suicide in 1994, MTV Unplugged in New York reveals, in exquisite acoustic terms, the craft and love of melody that illuminated his anguish.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists ... n-19691231

Forgotten Son · **Posted:** Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:16 am

Begging the question
Argument from "authority"
Argument from popularity
Argument from repetition
Argument from ignorance
Post hoc ergo propter hoc
non-sequitur

Any others?

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