DDD Forum
https://digitaldreamdoor.com/forum/

300 Greatest Movie Actors
https://digitaldreamdoor.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=6080		 Page 48 of 78
Author:  Tim [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Greatest Movie Actors (Revision)
Definite listmakers
Ken Takakura

potential listmakers / honorable mentions
H. B. Warner
Oleg Yankovsky
Ahmed Zaki

Potential honorable mentions
Mack Swain
Topol
Ernest Torrence
Massimo Troisi
Ulrich Tukur
Ken Watanabe
Hugo Weaving
Clifton Webb
Johnny Weissmuller
James Whitmore
Jeffrey Wright
Ismail Yassine

drop outs
we are almost done and i am feeling generous today so none
Author:  Tim [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Greatest Movie Actors (Revision)
so Luuk, AyaMelie or Bruno, please summarize it all so far.
Author:  Luuk [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Greatest Movie Actors (Revision)
List makers
Dev Anand
Rajesh Khanna
Uttam Kumar
Gaston Modot
Andy Serkis
Ken Takakura

Potential list makers / honorable mentions
Alfred Abel
Tadanobu Asano
Gene Autry
Kevin Bacon
Jean-Louis Barrault
Richard Barthelmess
Claude Brasseur
Josh Brolin
Mel Brooks
Harry Carey Jr.
Joe Dallesandro
Divine
Barry Fitzgerald
John Garfield
Götz George
Kamal Haasan
Adel Imam
Ben Johnson
George Kennedy
Hardy Krüger
Evgeny Leonov
Tony Ka Fai Leung
Mads Mikkelsen
Alfred Molina
Ivan Mozzhukhin
Ramon Novarro
Daniel Olbrychski
Jacques Perrin
Raimu
Hrithik Roshan
Hiroyuki Sanada
Farid Shawqi
Gary Sinise
Sol Kyung-gu
Song Kang-ho
H. B. Warner
Oleg Yankovsky
Ahmed Zaki

I think we can drop the "potential honorable mentions" section, because I feel it should be limited to a maximum of 100 honorable mentions. Only 7 more names to add to the definitive list. I'd suggest

#101. Uttam Kumar
#139. Rajesh Khanna
#173. Dev Anand
#225. Gaston Modot
#273. Andy Serkis

After some consideration, I'm not sure if Ken Takakura deserves a place on the main list. I think he should move to honorable mentions.
Author:  Luuk [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Greatest Movie Actors (Revision)
I'll combine the complete list of honorable mentions now.
Author:  Luuk [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Greatest Movie Actors (Revision)
Alfred Abel
Casey Affleck
Don Ameche
George Arliss
Edward Arnold
Tadanobu Asano
Gene Autry
Lew Ayres
Kevin Bacon
Jean-Pierre Bacri
Alec Baldwin
George Bancroft
Antonio Banderas
Jean-Louis Barrault
Richard Barthelmess
Albert Bassermann
Ned Beatty
Ralph Bellamy
John Belushi
Charles Bickford
Ward Bond
Klaus Maria Brandauer
Claude Brasseur
Rossano Brazzi
Jim Broadbent
Josh Brolin
Charles Bronson
Albert Brooks
Mel Brooks
Daniel Brühl
Louis Calhern
John Candy
Eddie Cantor
Harry Carey, Jr.
Jean-Pierre Cassel
Maurice Chevalier
Sonny Chiba
Charles Coburn
Bradley Cooper
Brian Cox
James Cromwell
Hume Cronyn
Billy Crystal
Joe Dallesandro
Jeff Daniels
Ossie Davis
Bruce Dern
Vittorio De Sica
Danny DeVito
Divine
Chiwetel Ejiofor
Aldo Fabrizi
Douglas Fairbanks Jr.
Richard Farnsworth
Stepin Fetchit
Colin Firth
Laurence Fishburne
Barry Fitzgerald
Pierre Fresnay
John Garfield
James Garner
Götz George
Paul Giamatti
Danny Glover
Jeff Goldblum
Hugh Grant
Sidney Greenstreet
Hugh Griffith
Edmund Gwenn
Kamal Haasan
Alan Hale Sr.
Cedric Hardwicke
Tom Hardy
Jack Hawkins
Stanley Holloway
Ian Holm
Trevor Howard
Adel Imam
Ben Johnson
Al Jolson
Louis Jourdan
Louis Jouvet
Raúl Juliá
Shintaro Katsu
Michael Keaton
George Kennedy
Kevin Kline
Hardy Krüger
Alan Ladd
Frank Langella
Jude Law
Evgeny Leonov
Tony Ka Fai Leung
Jet Li
John Lithgow
Roger Livesey
Paul Lukas
Fred MacMurray
William H. Macy
Herbert Marshall
Dean Martin
Malcolm McDowell
Adolphe Menjou
Burgess Meredith
Mads Mikkelsen
Ray Milland
John Mills
Tom Mix
Alfred Molina
Robert Montgomery
Frank Morgan
Masahiro Motoki
Ivan Mozzhukhin
Ulrich Muehe
Eddie Murphy
Jorge Negrete
Leslie Nielsen
Nick Nolte
Ramon Novarro
Daniel Olbrychski
Jack Palance
Michael Palin
Eugene Pallette
Jacques Perrin
River Phoenix
Donald Pleasence
Christopher Plummer
Pete Postlethwaite
Tyrone Power
Richard Pryor
Anthony Quayle
Raimu
Basil Rathbone
Oliver Reed
Wallace Reid
Jean Reno
Burt Reynolds
Jean Rochefort
Roy Rogers
Gilbert Roland
Hrithik Roshan
Tim Roth
Mickey Rourke
Mark Ruffalo
Kurt Russell
Hiroyuki Sanada
Joseph Schildkraut
Randolph Scott
Michael Shannon
Farid Shawqi
Gary Sinise
Sol Kyung-gu
Anatoly Solonitsyn
Song Kang-ho
Timothy Spall
Sylvester Stallone
Terence Stamp
Dean Stockwell
David Strathairn
Ken Takakura
Billy Bob Thornton
Henry Travers
John Turturro
Peter Ustinov
Raf Vallone
Lee Van Cleef
Lino Ventura
Anton Walbrook
M. Emmett Walsh
Christoph Waltz
Jack Warden
H.B. Warner
Forest Whitaker
Tom Wilkinson
Bruce Willis
Louis Wolheim
Anthony Wong
Oleg Yankovsky
Ahmed Zaki

If I counted correctly, we now have a total of 179 honorable mentions. As I said above, I think it's best to limit it to a maximum of 100, so in my opinion, we have to select 79 definitive drop-outs
Author:  Luuk [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Greatest Movie Actors (Revision)
Hmm, maybe I'm fine with limiting it to 150 actors as well... It becomes really hard to exclude actors. By the way, if the 5 earlier mentioned list makers make the list, Horst Buchholz, John Cazale, Minoru Chiaki, Kevin Costner and Udo Kier will be added to honorable mentiones as well. This means that, if we limit it to 150 actors, we have to remove 34 names from the honorable mentions section...
Author:  Tim [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Greatest Movie Actors (Revision)
AyaMelie wrote:
Possible honorable mentions (30)
Casey Affleck
Antonio Banderas
John Belushi
Albert Brooks
John Candy
Hume Cronyn
Douglas Fairbanks, Jr.
Richard Farnsworth
Stepin Fetchit
Laurence Fishburne
Danny Glover
Hugh Griffith
Tom Hardy
Jack Hawkins
Stanley Holloway
Frank Langella
Malcolm McDowell
Adolphe Menjou
Burgess Meredith
Frank Morgan
Jack Palance
Eugene Pallette
Pete Postlehwaite
Richard Pryor
Jean Reno
Gilbert Roland
Tim Roth
Joseph Shildkrout
Timothy Spall
Lee van Cleef


I assume these have to go except I remember AyaMelie explicitly saying that Fairbanks, Fishburn, McDowell, Palance and Reno are too big of names to be excluded. What do you guys think?
Author:  Tim [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Greatest Movie Actors (Revision)
Here's how main list supposed to look now. I went ahead and switched Schwarzenegger and Frobbe. It's probably not as high as AyaMelie wants him but at least it's something.

1. Marlon Brando
2. Charles Chaplin
3. Laurence Olivier
4. Robert De Niro
5. James Stewart
6. Jack Nicholson
7. Al Pacino
8. Paul Newman
9. Humphrey Bogart
10. Toshiro Mifune
11. Cary Grant
12. Buster Keaton
13. Dustin Hoffman
14. Marcello Mastroianni
15. Daniel Day-Lewis
16. Henry Fonda
17. Alec Guinness
18. Jean Gabin
19. Jack Lemmon
20. John Wayne
21. Tom Hanks
22. Gregory Peck
23. Sidney Poitier
24. Gary Cooper
25. James Cagney
26. Gérard Depardieu
27. Spencer Tracy
28. Peter O'Toole
29. Gene Hackman
30. Michael Caine
31. Clark Gable
32. Richard Burton
33. Max von Sydow
34. Denzel Washington
35. Burt Lancaster
36. Clint Eastwood
37. Jean-Paul Belmondo
38. William Holden
39. Robert Mitchum
40. Peter Sellers
41. Kirk Douglas
42. Morgan Freeman
43. Leonardo DiCaprio
44. Vittorio Gassman
45. Orson Welles
46. Harold Lloyd
47. Sean Connery
48. Robert Duvall
49. Anthony Quinn
50. Rudolph Valentino
51. George C. Scott
52. Robert Redford
53. Montgomery Clift
54. Anthony Hopkins
55. James Dean
56. Alain Delon
57. Michel Piccoli
58. Klaus Kinski
59. Harrison Ford
60. Gene Kelly
61. Peter Lorre
62. Fred Astaire
63. Edward G. Robinson
64. Charles Laughton
65. Takashi Shimura
66. Sean Penn
67. Philip Seymour Hoffman
68. Dennis Hopper
69. Max Linder
70. Groucho Marx / The Marx Brothers
71. Ronald Colman
72. Douglas Fairbanks
73. Tom Cruise
74. Tatsuya Nakadai
75. Johnny Depp
76. Ben Kingsley
77. Fredric March
78. Totò
79. Louis de Funès *****
80. Robin Williams
81. Michel Simon
82. Woody Allen
83. Philippe Noiret
84. Bill Murray
85. Gary Oldman
86. Jeff Bridges
87. Amitabh Bachchan
88. John Barrymore
89. Chishu Ryu
90. Lon Chaney
91. Jean-Louis Trintignant
92. Laurel and Hardy
93. Jean-Pierre Léaud
94. Errol Flynn
95. Albert Finney
96. Emil Jannings
97. John Hurt
98. Russell Crowe
99. Walter Matthau
100. James Mason

101. Uttam Kumar *****
102. George Clooney
103. Rod Steiger
104. Warren Beatty
105. Ralph Fiennes
106. Tony Leung Chiu Wai
107. Richard Harris
108. Raj Kapoor
109. Yves Montand
110. Yul Brynner
111. Charlton Heston
112. Steve McQueen
113. Mickey Rooney
114. Boris Karloff
115. Dirk Bogarde
116. John Gielgud
117. Vincent Price
118. Chow Yun-fat
119. Alberto Sordi
120. Conrad Veidt
121. Christopher Walken
122. Donald Sutherland
123. Kevin Spacey
124. Samuel L. Jackson
125. Michael Douglas
126. Dilip Kumar
127. Jean Marais
128. Jerry Lewis
129. Rock Hudson
130. Ian McKellen
131. Paul Muni
132. Naseeruddin Shah *****
133. Lee Marvin
134. Mack Sennett
135. Geoffrey Rush
136. Omar Sharif
137. Roscoe 'Fatty' Arbuckle
138. Peter Finch
139. Lionel Barrymore
140. Rajesh Khanna *****
141. Sessue Hayakawa
142. King Baggot *****
143. Jeremy Irons
144. Jon Voight
145. Brad Pitt
146. Kenneth Branagh
147. Richard Attenborough
148. Gérard Philipe *****
149. Erland Josephson
150. Jim Carrey
151. Jacques Tati
152. Ernest Borgnine
153. Matt Damon
154. Shah Rukh Khan *****
155. Charles Boyer
156. Javier Bardem
157. Bruce Lee
158. William Hurt
159. Liam Neeson
160. Fernandel *****
161. Nino Manfredi
162. David Niven
163. Ralph Richardson
164. Erich von Stroheim
165. Daniel Auteuil
166. Richard Dreyfuss
167. William S. Hart
168. Innokenty Smoktunovsky
169. Fernando Rey
170. Maximilian Schell
171. Jackie Chan
172. Edward Norton
173. Tony Curtis
174. Walter Brennan
175. Dev Anand *****
176. Gunnar Björnstrand
177. W.C. Fields
178. Ed Harris
179. Tommy Lee Jones
180. Bourvil *****
181. Christian Bale
182. Aamir Khan
183. Christopher Lee
184. Will Smith
185. Claude Rains
186. Gene Wilder
187. José Ferrer
188. Fernando Fernán Gómez *****
189. Nikolay Cherkasov
190. Michel Serrault
191. Ugo Tognazzi
192. Choi Min-sik
193. Arthur Kennedy *****
194. Joseph Cotten
195. Willem Dafoe
196. Thomas Mitchell
197. Cantinflas *****
198. Karl Malden
199. Heath Ledger
200. Bruno Ganz

201. John Gilbert
202. Ryan Gosling
203. James Coburn *****
204. Nicolas Cage
205. Stellan Skarsgård
206. Gian Maria Volonté
207. Eli Wallach
208. Jean-Claude Brialy
209. Melvyn Douglas
210. Bob Hope
211. Walter Huston
212. Abbott and Costello
213. Nanni Moretti
214. Paul Robeson
215. Wallace Beery
216. Tom Courtneay
217. George Sanders
218. Richard Gere *****
219. Joel McCrea
220. Viggo Mortensen
221. Ewan McGregor *****
222. Bela Lugosi
223. Harvey Keitel
224. John Malkovich
225. The Three Stooges *****
226. Paul Scofield
227. Robert Shaw
228. Gaston Modot *****
229. Benicio del Toro
230. John Carradine *****
231. Harry Dean Stanton
232. Paul Winfield
233. Mel Gibson
234. Rex Harrison
235. Bing Crosby
236. James Earl Jones
237. Robert Downey Jr.
238. Steve Buscemi
239. Denholm Elliott *****
240. Roberto Benigni
241. Dana Andrews
242. Michael Chekhov
243. Jason Robards
244. Leslie Cheung *****
245. Martin Sheen
246. Joe Pesci
247. Rudolf Klein-Rogge
248. Robert Ryan
249. William Powell
250. Joaquin Phoenix
251. Peter Cushing *****
252. Takeshi Kitano
253. Jake Gyllenhaal
254. Robert Donat
255. John Travolta
256. James Woods
257. Donald Crisp
258. Pedro Infante *****
259. Lee J. Cobb
260. Alan Rickman
261. Alastair Sim
262. Richard Widmark
263. Victor Mature *****
264. Victor McLaglen
265. Michael Redgrave
266. Armin Mueller-Stahl
267. Anthony Perkins *****
268. Walter Pidgeon
269. Giancarlo Giannini
270. Bob Hoskins
271. Glenn Ford *****
272. Gael García Bernal
273. James Caan
274. Martin Balsam
275. Alan Arkin
276. Brendan Gleeson
277. Andy Serkis *****
278. Leslie Howard
279. Woody Harrelson *****
280. Matthew McConaughey
281. Steve Martin
282. Martin Landau
283. Edward Everett Horton
284. Arnold Schwarzenegger *****
285. Tim Robbins
286. Sterling Hayden
287. Don Cheadle
288. Chris Cooper *****
289. Frank Sinatra
290. Roy Scheider
291. Vincent Cassel
292. Rutger Hauer
293. Gert Fröbe *****
294. Michael Fassbender
295. John Cleese
296. Jean Hersholt *****
297. Curd Jürgens
298. John Goodman
299. Franco Nero
300. Jürgen Prochnow
Author:  Luuk [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Greatest Movie Actors (Revision)
Some spelling mistakes that need to be corrected, the correct spelling is on the right:

26. Gerard Depardieu --> Gérard Depardieu
67. Philip Seymour-Hoffman --> Philip Seymour Hoffman
79. Louis de Funes --> Louis de Funès
130. Ian McKellan --> Ian McKellen
148. Gerard Phillipe --> Gérard Philipe
188. Fernando Fernan Gomez --> Fernando Fernán Gómez
198. Carl Malden --> Karl Malden
206. Gian Maria Volonte --> Gian Maria Volonté
216. Tom Courtney --> Tom Courtenay
229. Benicio Del Toro --> Benicio del Toro
239. Denholm Elliot --> Denholm Elliott
272. Gael Garcia Bernal --> Gael García Bernal
293. Gert Frobbe --> Gert Fröbe
297. Curd Jurgens --> Curd Jürgens
300. Jurgen Prochnow --> Jürgen Prochnow

Minor changes, but essential to give the list a good look.
Author:  Luuk [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Greatest Movie Actors (Revision)
The names you removed seem pretty logical, Tim. Only ones I have doubts about are Fairbanks, Jr. and Spall.
Author:  Tim [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Greatest Movie Actors (Revision)
Hearty thank you, Luuk.
Author:  Luuk [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Greatest Movie Actors (Revision)
I'm still thinking about the honorable mentions section. Is a section of 150 names not just too big? Maybe it's a lot to ask since we've been busy with this list for a couple of months now, but we can turn it into a top 500 if we take the 184 actors and add 16 more names to them, and then rank them accordingly. I personally feel that that would look better: an overall list of 500 names without an honorable mentions section. But if we do that, we'll have to rank another 200 actors. Not sure if everybody feels like it, myself included to be honest.
Author:  Tim [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Greatest Movie Actors (Revision)
i don't think it's too big, Luuk. take a look at greatest guitarist list for sake of comparasion.
Author:  Luuk [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Greatest Movie Actors (Revision)
Right. I'm not opposed to it then. So, I think Fairbanks Jr. and Spall probably should be on honorable mentions, but I'm not sure which ones have to leave in their places. Any thoughts, Tim?
Author:  Tim [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Greatest Movie Actors (Revision)
how honorable mentions section supposed to look now:

Alfred Abel
Don Ameche
George Arliss
Edward Arnold
Tadanobu Asano
Lew Ayres
Kevin Bacon
Jean-Pierre Bacri
Alec Baldwin
George Bancroft
Jean-Louis Barrault
Richard Barthelmess
Albert Bassermann
Ned Beatty
Ralph Bellamy
Charles Bickford
Ward Bond
Klaus Maria Brandauer
Claude Brasseur
Rossano Brazzi
Jim Broadbent
Charles Bronson
Mel Brooks
Daniel Brühl
Horst Buchholz
Louis Calhern
Eddie Cantor
Harry Carey Jr.
Jean-Pierre Cassel
John Cazale
Maurice Chevalier
Minoru Chiaki
Sonny Chiba
Charles Coburn
Bradley Cooper
Kevin Costner
Brian Cox
James Cromwell
Joe Dallesandro
Jeff Daniels
Ossie Davis
Bruce Dern
Vittorio De Sica
Danny DeVito
Divine
Chiwetel Ejiofor
Aldo Fabrizi
Douglas Fairbanks Jr.
Colin Firth
Laurence Fishburne
Barry Fitzgerald
Pierre Fresnay
John Garfield
James Garner
Götz George
Paul Giamatti
Danny Glover
Jeff Goldblum
Hugh Grant
Sydney Greenstreet
Hugh Griffith
Edmund Gwenn
Kamal Haasan
Alan Hale Sr.
Cedric Hardwicke
Tom Hardy
Jack Hawkins
Stanley Holloway
Ian Holm
Trevor Howard
Adel Imam
Ben Johnson
Al Jolson
Louis Jourdan
Louis Jouvet
Raúl Juliá
Shintaro Katsu
Michael Keaton
George Kennedy
Udo Kier
Kevin Kline
Hardy Krüger
Alan Ladd
Jude Law
Evgeny Leonov
Tony Ka Fai Leung
Jet Li
John Lithgow
Roger Livesey
Paul Lukas
Fred MacMurray
William H. Macy
Herbert Marshall
Dean Martin
Malcolm McDowell
Mads Mikkelsen
Ray Milland
John Mills
Tom Mix
Alfred Molina
Robert Montgomery
Frank Morgan
Masahiro Motoki
Ivan Mozzhukhin
Ulrich Mühe
Eddie Murphy
Jorge Negrete
Leslie Nielsen
Nick Nolte
Ramon Novarro
Daniel Olbrychski
Jack Palance
Michael Palin
Jacques Perrin
River Phoenix
Donald Pleasence
Christopher Plummer
Tyrone Power
Richard Pryor
Anthony Quayle
Raimu
Basil Rathbone
Oliver Reed
Wallace Reid
Jean Reno
Burt Reynolds
Jean Rochefort
Roy Rogers
Hrithik Roshan
Mickey Rourke
Mark Ruffalo
Kurt Russell
Hiroyuki Sanada
Randolph Scott
Michael Shannon
Farid Shawqi
Gary Sinise
Sol Kyung-gu
Anatoly Solonitsyn
Song Kang-ho
Timothy Spall
Sylvester Stallone
Terence Stamp
Dean Stockwell
David Strathairn
Ken Takakura
Billy Bob Thornton
Henry Travers
John Turturro
Peter Ustinov
Raf Vallone
Lee Van Cleef
Lino Ventura
Anton Walbrook
M. Emmett Walsh
Christoph Waltz
Jack Warden
H. B. Warner
Forest Whitaker
Tom Wilkinson
Bruce Willis
Louis Wolheim
Anthony Wong
Oleg Yankovsky
Ahmed Zaki
Page 48 of 78 All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group
http://www.phpbb.com/