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 Post subject: Re: Last Film You Saw And Rate It
PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 7:36 pm 
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lol you're such a fucking joke it's not even funny


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 Post subject: Re: Last Film You Saw And Rate It
PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 7:58 pm 
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I think you're taking this a little too personally, Vil.


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 Post subject: Re: Last Film You Saw And Rate It
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eh? It just clicked? Well, this is way better than star wars. It was beautifully shot.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicarii


Just clicked when I got home from the theater, not when you were reading that. At that point, I'd figured it out quite a while before.


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 Post subject: Re: Last Film You Saw And Rate It
PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:22 pm 
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I've heard The Good Dinosaur is one of Pixar's worst films. A prefect film, really? I haven't seen it yet, but I've heard very little praise for this one.


The description I heard is that it is Pixar's most beautiful film, but also it's most derivative of its own work and least original in terms of other ideas.

I haven't seen it, though, and I don't really have interest. The last non-sequel Pixar movie I was interested in seeing was Up.


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 Post subject: Re: Last Film You Saw And Rate It
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I'm just saying, what's the point of sharing new perspectives if you do it in such an over the top obnoxious way that no one will ever take you seriously?


"Boo Boo wrote."


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The macro story was both derivative of Star Wars and the new Star Treks and fucking ludicrous and poorly fitting for the universe it was in.


I'm ok with pretending the new Star Trek movies don't exist if you are.


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By the by, Star Wars sequel prediction for Supreme Leader Snoke:

Betcha he's really Yoda size.[/potential spoiler]


And depressingly I think Vil may have been right about him being Darth Plegius which would be fucking dumb

That wasn't me, I think it was Zach. I hope it doesn't turn out to be SPOILERPlagieusSPOILER either


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 Post subject: Re: Last Film You Saw And Rate It
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 1:37 am 
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to those of you lawbreakers, there are quality torrents for the revenant, the hateful eight, carol (though i dunno how good this one is) and sicario


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 Post subject: Re: Last Film You Saw And Rate It
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boo boo wrote:
I'm just saying, what's the point of sharing new perspectives if you do it in such an over the top obnoxious way that no one will ever take you seriously?


"Boo Boo wrote."


And you may note that I'm not a professional film critic for a newspaper people pay to read.


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 Post subject: Re: Last Film You Saw And Rate It
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to those of you lawbreakers, there are quality torrents for the revenant, the hateful eight, carol (though i dunno how good this one is) and sicario

The one for Sicario is an actual blu-ray rip. The rest are relatively poor quality screeners.


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the revenant looks more than pretty decent from the sample i've seen, can't speak for any of the others yet though


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 Post subject: Re: Last Film You Saw And Rate It
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Dreww wrote:
Well my post is simplifying my possibly ridiculous conception of it a bit. My notion is that the people who go headfirst into the pant on head stupid lore, in doing that, are exercising a particularly valuable kind of imaginative-intellectual muscle. I don't like this valuable mode of consciousness and productivity being directed into pants-on-head stupid lore which these people are all aware is useless on some level but have a certain amount of community in order to convince them that it's okay to do even if it has no value other than fueling the libidino-economic junk circuit. In this way it is quite religious, the old new atheist line about "religions are so stupid that you have to return to them every weekend to reinforce the stupid power of the thing so that you don't start to question how stupid it is." The same kind of mindset which allows people to go full on into that mode of useless dithering is something that they could be applying to the actual authentic dying cultural mythologies. But they don't because of how media spectacle has convinced them that it is somehow communally okay to devote naive energies to this lumbering corporate culture piece of shit thing. Star Trek or Warcraft may very well be more pernicious or more responsible or more valuable co-ops of the same human potentials which are, I am convinced, totally wasted in the Star Wars universe.

The Game of Thrones version of this is not as pernicious since it encourages learning about actual history and religion, confrontations with otherness, etc.


On that Game of Thrones point have you read the World of Ice and Fire yet (Martin's encyclopedia)? One of the very strongest things about how it was written is it was written from the perspective of a Maester writing it for the education of King Tommen and including some excerpts from other Maesters writings. It is thus written very much like a late medieval historical work and it has all the attendant and appropriate biases. And even more to the point it dismisses as fairy tales or myths things that the reader in fact knows to be true based on his perspective in the stories. It dismisses histories by people such as Septon Barth who were likely more accurate in a number of ways than the Maesters.

So the work itself both illuminates the worlds you're reading about giving them grounding and context while at the same time showing the politics of the making of history and knowledge. It is a truly excellent literary achievement


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Agreed. Love my copy.


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 Post subject: Re: Last Film You Saw And Rate It
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the revenant looks more than pretty decent from the sample i've seen, can't speak for any of the others yet though

the creed one is pretty good. but they're ripped from average quality dvd screeners that might look good on laptops and phones but i don't want to watch something like the revenant or the hateful eight on subpar quality. need to see this shit in the highest possible quality. niggas doing yourselves a disservice by watching screeners of lubezki's work.


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 Post subject: Re: Last Film You Saw And Rate It
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Dreww wrote:
Well my post is simplifying my possibly ridiculous conception of it a bit. My notion is that the people who go headfirst into the pant on head stupid lore, in doing that, are exercising a particularly valuable kind of imaginative-intellectual muscle. I don't like this valuable mode of consciousness and productivity being directed into pants-on-head stupid lore which these people are all aware is useless on some level but have a certain amount of community in order to convince them that it's okay to do even if it has no value other than fueling the libidino-economic junk circuit. In this way it is quite religious, the old new atheist line about "religions are so stupid that you have to return to them every weekend to reinforce the stupid power of the thing so that you don't start to question how stupid it is." The same kind of mindset which allows people to go full on into that mode of useless dithering is something that they could be applying to the actual authentic dying cultural mythologies. But they don't because of how media spectacle has convinced them that it is somehow communally okay to devote naive energies to this lumbering corporate culture piece of shit thing. Star Trek or Warcraft may very well be more pernicious or more responsible or more valuable co-ops of the same human potentials which are, I am convinced, totally wasted in the Star Wars universe.

The Game of Thrones version of this is not as pernicious since it encourages learning about actual history and religion, confrontations with otherness, etc.


On that Game of Thrones point have you read the World of Ice and Fire yet (Martin's encyclopedia)? One of the very strongest things about how it was written is it was written from the perspective of a Maester writing it for the education of King Tommen and including some excerpts from other Maesters writings. It is thus written very much like a late medieval historical work and it has all the attendant and appropriate biases. And even more to the point it dismisses as fairy tales or myths things that the reader in fact knows to be true based on his perspective in the stories. It dismisses histories by people such as Septon Barth who were likely more accurate in a number of ways than the Maesters.

So the work itself both illuminates the worlds you're reading about giving them grounding and context while at the same time showing the politics of the making of history and knowledge. It is a truly excellent literary achievement

I have not read it all the way through but I've looked at some sections of it and realize that it has biases like this. A really great book. This is how lore should be consolidated.


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