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 Post subject: Re: Football (Soccer).
PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 11:29 pm 
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Avery_Island wrote:
fecking hell, it was a decent game, but the best match ever? really? :/


I don't think anyone called it the best match ever. If they did, I wasn't agreeing with them. I was merely pointing out that it was an extremely exciting final and I was disappointed that that it ended with the enticing possibility of another 30 minutes.


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 Post subject: Re: Football (Soccer).
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That clearance off the line was incredible.


Yes, it was. I thought it was Dortmund's name on the trophy after that.


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 Post subject: Re: Football (Soccer).
PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 1:52 pm 
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Rats, was pulling for Watford


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 Post subject: Re: Football (Soccer).
PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 6:39 pm 
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Same kinda. It would have been great for Chalobah to get some Premier League experience with Watford.


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 Post subject: Re: Football (Soccer).
PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 6:54 pm 
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Anyone surprised the ref didn't book Dante for the foul that led to the PK?

Also, todays game is the most important game in terms of money for any single game: Crystal Palace just secured equiv of 120 million pounds.


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kosherrock wrote:
Probably the best match I've ever seen

it was incredibly good for sure. i was on a plane, but lucky enough to be on a jetblue flight. jetblue has cable TVs in each headrest. i was rooting for bayern, so after each goal i reflexively clapped really loudly on a totally silent plane, and pumped my fists in the air. it drew a lot of weird looks. the only person i could see watching it was a girl in front of me who was rooting for dortmund. she turned and glared at me when i clapped. there were so many exciting moments though that i couldn't help being pretty animated for the whole match. it was more fun than the time i watched a presidential debate on a jetblue flight when everyone else watched it too and you could discern political allegiances by when people clapped at responses or by if they were watching it on fox or msnbc. anywho, great match and jetblue rocks.


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 Post subject: Re: Football (Soccer).
PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 10:12 pm 
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so glad watford didnt go up, would have set a horrible precedent. hopefully that loophole will be closed and no one can cheat the way they did this season again.

still staggered they didnt run away with this league though, if they had a half decent manager they no doubt wouldve done.


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 Post subject: Re: Football (Soccer).
PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 10:55 pm 
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so glad watford didnt go up, would have set a horrible precedent. hopefully that loophole will be closed and no one can cheat the way they did this season again.

still staggered they didnt run away with this league though, if they had a half decent manager they no doubt wouldve done.

What is the way that they may have cheated their way into the league? Just wondering since I haven't heard anyone say this, and was curious. Is it with their parent club Udinese and the loan players they brought in? Thats the only thing I can see from just looking at their dealings over the past season.


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 Post subject: Re: Football (Soccer).
PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 11:04 pm 
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the rules in england limit only the number of players allowed on loan and the fact someone can only own one club towards domestic teams. i think youre only allowed 2 players on loan from one team at any time and only 5 players in your matchday squad of 18, but this only applies to domestic loans.

watford and udinese are owned by the same person and essentially loaned watford their entire 2nd string without watford having to pay the wages (seeing as it was all the same owners money), i believe he also owns a 3rd club in a lower league in another country who were loaned udinese's 3rd string and they ended up running away with their division title.

there were times this season where watfords entire 11 on the pitch didnt belong to them.

im glad they didnt go up as it would set a precedent, that an owner from another country could own an english lower league, loan their entire 2nd team, which is well above the level of that division and then run away with the league and the owner could make a load of money out of the promotion.

hopefully that loophole will be tied up now and a limit will be put on the number of loanees a team can have from abroad and one team abroad, as well as domestic loans.

i dont have anything against watford and they only took advantage of a lapse in the rules the way any other team did, so i dont blame them, but im just glad they didnt go up, because it would just encourage other teams to do the same.


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 Post subject: Re: Football (Soccer).
PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 11:09 pm 
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Okay, gotcha. I agree totally about that, and just didn't hear much about it.


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 Post subject: Re: Football (Soccer).
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Ah well season over and the double in the bag (should've been the treble). Bored already so roll on 16/17 July and the first Champions League qualifiers


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 Post subject: Re: Football (Soccer).
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Chemical Ali wrote:
Avery_Island wrote:
so glad watford didnt go up, would have set a horrible precedent. hopefully that loophole will be closed and no one can cheat the way they did this season again.

still staggered they didnt run away with this league though, if they had a half decent manager they no doubt wouldve done.

What is the way that they may have cheated their way into the league? Just wondering since I haven't heard anyone say this, and was curious. Is it with their parent club Udinese and the loan players they brought in? Thats the only thing I can see from just looking at their dealings over the past season.



Watford's problems go back to the illegal transfer of Danny Graham to Swansea in 2011. There were some illegal payments involving a 3rd party. Earlier this year, the owner was banned from involvement in football for 3 years and the club fined put under a transfer embargo until August 31 2013.

This is why they had so many loan players.

It would have been interesting to see what would have happened if Watford had won promotion, because the result of the embargo would have been them not been able to sign a single player up until the January Transfer window.


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 Post subject: Re: Football (Soccer).
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Avery_Island wrote:
fecking hell, it was a decent game, but the best match ever? really? :/



It's probably the best match I've ever seen for a bunch of reasons.


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 Post subject: Re: Football (Soccer).
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I'd like to hear them. I mean I loved it, it was certainly one of the better European Cup Final games in recent times, but I don't quite hold it in the sway you do. If only it had gone to extra time.


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 Post subject: Re: Football (Soccer).
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Both teams went for it. I don't mean that they were being reckless, because they weren't. Each side played their style, played their strengths believing that their strengths were stronger than the opposition's. leading up we all hoped that each would play their style, as they compliment so awesomely. The game was played at a neck breaking pace pretty much the whole time, with an unbelievable sense of urgency...I loved that because finals, especially, are almost never played that way. Both attacks, and defenses (especially in net), were so strong, that no one at any moment (outside the first 15 minutes) could reasonably pick a winner until the final whistle. How many great attacks were stopped by a great tackle, or save? Enough that we knew it was going to take something special to win the match, and that was certainly a special move from robben. Nothing real flukey, no big controversies, outstanding officiating, and sure, the fact that it was a final really magnifies all of this in my book. I'd say it was a match for the ages.


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