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I think it's pretty clear Moyes is a mid-table coach and needs to go. He inherited a title winning side, with a stable group of players and decent list of transfers. When I watch this United side they look like they are playing Real Madrid in Europe when they face lesser opposition. He's out of his depth.

Based on what? They won the league with an 11 point gap betweens second place.

pink wrote:

Based on what? They won the league with an 11 point gap betweens second place.

Ferguson manufactured a lot points.

kosherrock wrote:

pink wrote:

Based on what? They won the league with an 11 point gap betweens second place.

Ferguson manufactured a lot points.

It was still the best squad in the league though.

Georgi wrote:

kosherrock wrote:

pink wrote:

Based on what? They won the league with an 11 point gap betweens second place.

Ferguson manufactured a lot points.

It was still the best squad in the league though.

Why?
Winning doesn't make the squad/list the strongest in player quality.
Manchester United were the best performing team but their list is not that strong compared to city and Chelsea.

Player by player Chelsea's starting 11 was better in every position bar striker.

Georgi wrote:

Carrick > Ramires and Lampard. Rio is better than the other Chelsea CB's too (seriously, he was sublime last year). Rafael is a better RB than Ivanovic, although Ivanovic is probably a better defender overall.

Rafael is terrible. I totally disagree. Especially with his national team. He doesn't make good decisions passing the ball and he's very inconsistent in defending in general. His performance at the olympics was disgraceful. Funnily his worst games were both at Old Trafford.

Author:	kosherrock [ Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:13 pm ]
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well it took all of 8 minutes for this game to become background noise. is this the first game messi and neymar have netted?

Author:	Yousha [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:52 am ]
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Indeed, though both goals were pretty lol. Weak match really, oh god the defense is bad. And messi is missing sitters, that's the third match this season already I think where he's found it hard to put them away. I really think Neymar should be allowed to go through the middle sometimes, the dude's potential is incredible, and even though he's really doing good, rotating messi and neymar isn't that bad an option, especially cause pedro and alexis are workhorses on the wing.

Author:	pink [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:56 am ]
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Wait til you guys are down a goal or two and Ranieri makes a defensive substitution.

Author:	Jose [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:24 am ]
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pink wrote: I think it's pretty clear Moyes is a mid-table coach and needs to go. He inherited a title winning side, with a stable group of players and decent list of transfers. When I watch this United side they look like they are playing Real Madrid in Europe when they face lesser opposition. He's out of his depth. The side he inherited was third or 4th strongest in the league IMO.

Author:	pink [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:40 am ]
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Based on what? They won the league with an 11 point gap betweens second place.

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Author:	Georgi [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:43 am ]
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He's succeeding the greatest manager of all time and has to impose his own style. Of course it's going to be difficult.

Author:	kosherrock [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:30 am ]
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pink wrote: Based on what? They won the league with an 11 point gap betweens second place. Ferguson manufactured a lot points.

Author:	Georgi [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:03 am ]
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kosherrock wrote: pink wrote: Based on what? They won the league with an 11 point gap betweens second place. Ferguson manufactured a lot points. It was still the best squad in the league though.

Author:	Jose [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:18 am ]
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Georgi wrote: kosherrock wrote: pink wrote: Based on what? They won the league with an 11 point gap betweens second place. Ferguson manufactured a lot points. It was still the best squad in the league though. Why? Winning doesn't make the squad/list the strongest in player quality. Manchester United were the best performing team but their list is not that strong compared to city and Chelsea.

Author:	Georgi [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:19 am ]
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Jose wrote: Georgi wrote: kosherrock wrote: pink wrote: Based on what? They won the league with an 11 point gap betweens second place. Ferguson manufactured a lot points. It was still the best squad in the league though. Why? Winning doesn't make the squad/list the strongest in player quality. Manchester United were the best performing team but their list is not that strong compared to city and Chelsea. City's is close, but the squad last year was certainly better than Chelsea's. Buying the world's supply of CAMs doesn't change that for me.

Author:	Forgotten Son [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:19 pm ]
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Player by player Chelsea's starting 11 was better in every position bar striker.

Author:	Georgi [ Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:01 am ]
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Forgotten Son wrote: Player by player Chelsea's starting 11 was better in every position bar striker. Simply not the case.

Author:	Jose [ Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:29 am ]
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I'd have vidic, de Gea, rvp and Rooney. No one from the united midfield.

Author:	Georgi [ Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:57 pm ]
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Carrick > Ramires and Lampard. Rio is better than the other Chelsea CB's too (seriously, he was sublime last year). Rafael is a better RB than Ivanovic, although Ivanovic is probably a better defender overall.

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Author:	Georgi [ Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:03 pm ]
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Bones wrote: Georgi wrote: Carrick > Ramires and Lampard. Rio is better than the other Chelsea CB's too (seriously, he was sublime last year). Rafael is a better RB than Ivanovic, although Ivanovic is probably a better defender overall. Rafael is terrible. I totally disagree. Especially with his national team. He doesn't make good decisions passing the ball and he's very inconsistent in defending in general. His performance at the olympics was disgraceful. Funnily his worst games were both at Old Trafford. Don't give a damn about his Brazil play. He was excellent last year for United.