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Author:  corrections [ Wed May 15, 2013 11:35 am ]
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lonewolf371 wrote:
corrections wrote:
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9273233/hoarding-prospects-being-horrible-houston-astros

Want to see another great reason why the latest CBA was such a horrible decision? Not only did it advantage the richer over the poorer teams (thanks cheap owners and rich city owners) but it also strongly encourages tanking.

I still think MLB is more favorable to small-market teams than the NBA. My main problem isn't so much with teams that tank to get youngsters like the Astros, but with teams like the Marlins that sell off everyone once they come up. The Reds had a healthy farm system a few years ago and now basically all the players are in the majors and signed to long-term contracts. I would like to see the slot caps done away with; make the teams that want to build farm systems spend money on it and gamble.


Houston isn't a small market team. The MLB used to be before the mandatory slotting system for the small markets because you could spend extra money in acquiring talent without killing yourself. Only Atlanta was able to follow slotting rigidly and still build great talented farm systems (and of course they supported this because it gave them a competitive advantage). The biggest problem though isn't necessarily the slotting for the draft but the fact that they use your finish position to cap how much international spending you can do. There is no draft so there is no rational relationship other than rewarding tanking.

Author:  lonewolf371 [ Wed May 15, 2013 12:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MLB.

corrections wrote:
lonewolf371 wrote:
corrections wrote:
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9273233/hoarding-prospects-being-horrible-houston-astros

Want to see another great reason why the latest CBA was such a horrible decision? Not only did it advantage the richer over the poorer teams (thanks cheap owners and rich city owners) but it also strongly encourages tanking.

I still think MLB is more favorable to small-market teams than the NBA. My main problem isn't so much with teams that tank to get youngsters like the Astros, but with teams like the Marlins that sell off everyone once they come up. The Reds had a healthy farm system a few years ago and now basically all the players are in the majors and signed to long-term contracts. I would like to see the slot caps done away with; make the teams that want to build farm systems spend money on it and gamble.


Houston isn't a small market team. The MLB used to be before the mandatory slotting system for the small markets because you could spend extra money in acquiring talent without killing yourself. Only Atlanta was able to follow slotting rigidly and still build great talented farm systems (and of course they supported this because it gave them a competitive advantage). The biggest problem though isn't necessarily the slotting for the draft but the fact that they use your finish position to cap how much international spending you can do. There is no draft so there is no rational relationship other than rewarding tanking.

Yeah the international thing is really stupid.

Author:  monga18 [ Fri May 17, 2013 11:06 am ]
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Author:  lonewolf371 [ Fri May 17, 2013 11:09 am ]
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what

Author:  corrections [ Fri May 17, 2013 11:26 am ]
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I think that pitch visually represents Verlander's start last night.

Author:  batman [ Sun May 19, 2013 7:57 pm ]
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I didn't even notice the score, runner positions, and outs when I first saw this. ios mio

Author:  lonewolf371 [ Sun May 19, 2013 9:08 pm ]
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batman wrote:
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I didn't even notice the score, runner positions, and outs when I first saw this. ios mio

When you're bad, you're bad.

I didn't realize the Rangers had quietly turned into a pitching team.

Author:  corrections [ Mon May 20, 2013 1:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: MLB.

lonewolf371 wrote:
batman wrote:
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I didn't even notice the score, runner positions, and outs when I first saw this. ios mio

When you're bad, you're bad.

I didn't realize the Rangers had quietly turned into a pitching team.


Yeah it's been pretty awesome. Now that the bats are waking up they can be really dangerous.

Author:  lonewolf371 [ Tue May 21, 2013 11:25 am ]
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The Diamondbacks are quietly a good baseball team. #12 in position player WAR, #8 in pitching WAR. Paul Goldschmidt nearly the best 1B in the league. 3 starters with an xFIP under 4, all 5 starters under 5. Currently have 4 position players with a wOBA over .400, including Goldschmidt, Gregorious, Chavez, and Hill.

Author:  zephead8 [ Tue May 21, 2013 11:50 am ]
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its nice to see chavez have a bounce back year, he was always one of my favorite players. i really like parra too. good young player

Author:  batman [ Wed May 22, 2013 1:36 am ]
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I haven't really had the time to follow MLB much yet this season, so I just checked the standings to get a general picture, and LOL @ Dodgers

Author:  monga18 [ Wed May 22, 2013 6:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MLB.

lonewolf371 wrote:
The Diamondbacks are quietly a good baseball team. #12 in position player WAR, #8 in pitching WAR. Paul Goldschmidt nearly the best 1B in the league. 3 starters with an xFIP under 4, all 5 starters under 5. Currently have 4 position players with a wOBA over .400, including Goldschmidt, Gregorious, Chavez, and Hill.


Hill has only played 10 games due to injury and the other guys you named all have high-to-highlarious BABIPs (as does Gerardo Parra, their other big-time hitter thus far). OTOH Miguel Montero and Martin Prado are as due for improvement as they are for regression. Point is it's still early.

Author:  lonewolf371 [ Wed May 22, 2013 7:58 pm ]
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monga18 wrote:
lonewolf371 wrote:
The Diamondbacks are quietly a good baseball team. #12 in position player WAR, #8 in pitching WAR. Paul Goldschmidt nearly the best 1B in the league. 3 starters with an xFIP under 4, all 5 starters under 5. Currently have 4 position players with a wOBA over .400, including Goldschmidt, Gregorious, Chavez, and Hill.


Hill has only played 10 games due to injury and the other guys you named all have high-to-highlarious BABIPs (as does Gerardo Parra, their other big-time hitter thus far). OTOH Miguel Montero and Martin Prado are as due for improvement as they are for regression. Point is it's still early.

Even with their ZiPS RoS wOBA's (which are arguably conservative) they would all finish north of .330 for the season. We're a sixth of the way through the season at this point, and even with their averages the rest of the way all of them would have had very good MLB seasons by most standards. All of them except Hill have already contributed a WAR to their teams before the All-Star break, so it shouldn't be hard for them to beat the 2-WAR MLB average. Goldschmidt in particular is a good candidate to get four or more since he's always had power and has showcased decent plate discipline since he came into the league.

Author:  monga18 [ Wed May 22, 2013 10:57 pm ]
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Author:  zephead8 [ Thu May 23, 2013 12:03 am ]
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