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Patrick wrote:

'rex he wasn't benched he had a groin injury and y'all don't have nothing to say about them RBIs? he's getting old but his presence on the team is a good thing, not a bad thing, and that only conceivable way you could say he sucks is relative to the rest of the phillies team which is laying a complete smackdown on the league atm

No he sucks period. RBIs don't really measure anything. They're a worse stat than average, which is pretty bad.

he [is an outstanding career player who is there when you need him, a morale booster and man to look up to on the bench, and overall a generally lovable dude who would loan you the shirt off his back and kiss a puppy before hitting a man home for the win. compared to him, my favorite player] sucks [dick and looks like a little girl]

Also yeah, Fangraphs WAR>BR, though it's not as different for pitchers as it is for hitters.

Alsox2, wins are about as bad a measurement of individual talent/production as RBIs are for hitters, so the fact that Greinke "only" won 16 games is pretty irrelevant when you're talking about the quality of his 09 season.

monga18 wrote:

he [is an outstanding career player who is there when you need him, a morale booster and man to look up to on the bench, and overall a generally lovable dude who would loan you the shirt off his back and kiss a puppy before hitting a man home for the win. compared to him, my favorite player] sucks [dick and looks like a little girl]

i could not agree more

Paulie wrote:

Wins are worse IMO, but I'm actually okay with looking at them when you're comparing pitchers that mostly do complete games like in the '70s.

*shakes red sox. wake the fuck up

well this is getting scary. buchholz should help matters, i just hope its enough.

thank good they can hit. This team will be fine once they get Beckett back and Lester's last performance was a fluke, he won't pitch that poorly again. Bard also doesn't normally pitch this bad and should turn things around. Lackey sucks though, the Red Sox need to be done with him. His h/9 this year is astronomical

Author:	Patrick [ Sun Sep 11, 2011 12:37 am ]
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corrections wrote: Patrick wrote: 'rex he wasn't benched he had a groin injury and y'all don't have nothing to say about them RBIs? he's getting old but his presence on the team is a good thing, not a bad thing, and that only conceivable way you could say he sucks is relative to the rest of the phillies team which is laying a complete smackdown on the league atm No he sucks period. RBIs don't really measure anything. They're a worse stat than average, which is pretty bad. as you guys wer etyping out them fancy paragraphs i was watching ibanez do his par tsweeping the braves

Author:	monga18 [ Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:06 pm ]
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he sucks

Author:	Patrick [ Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:58 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: MLB.
monga18 wrote: he [is an outstanding career player who is there when you need him, a morale booster and man to look up to on the bench, and overall a generally lovable dude who would loan you the shirt off his back and kiss a puppy before hitting a man home for the win. compared to him, my favorite player] sucks [dick and looks like a little girl] i could not agree more

Author:	batman [ Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:21 pm ]
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carlos beltran hates the san francisco giants

Author:	lonewolf371 [ Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:53 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: MLB.
Paulie wrote: Also yeah, Fangraphs WAR>BR, though it's not as different for pitchers as it is for hitters. Alsox2, wins are about as bad a measurement of individual talent/production as RBIs are for hitters, so the fact that Greinke "only" won 16 games is pretty irrelevant when you're talking about the quality of his 09 season. Wins are worse IMO, but I'm actually okay with looking at them when you're comparing pitchers that mostly do complete games like in the '70s.

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Author:	corrections [ Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:45 am ]
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Patrick wrote: monga18 wrote: he [is an outstanding career player who is there when you need him, a morale booster and man to look up to on the bench, and overall a generally lovable dude who would loan you the shirt off his back and kiss a puppy before hitting a man home for the win. compared to him, my favorite player] sucks [dick and looks like a little girl] i could not agree more

Author:	corrections [ Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:46 am ]
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lonewolf371 wrote: Paulie wrote: Also yeah, Fangraphs WAR>BR, though it's not as different for pitchers as it is for hitters. Alsox2, wins are about as bad a measurement of individual talent/production as RBIs are for hitters, so the fact that Greinke "only" won 16 games is pretty irrelevant when you're talking about the quality of his 09 season. Wins are worse IMO, but I'm actually okay with looking at them when you're comparing pitchers that mostly do complete games like in the '70s. In the same way I'm OK with looking at saves I'm OK if you're talking 70s multi-inning saves (or Mariano Rivera playoff saves). Rays just made things real interesting again with that sweep.

Author:	pgm [ Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:18 pm ]
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Sorry to steer this back to the Phillies. For the 4th starter, would you rather have Roy Oswalt or Vance Worley? This assumes Oswalt is healthy.

Author:	chicken sandwich [ Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:38 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: MLB.
I think you have to go with the vet but have Vance Vance revolution in the bullpen just in case

Author:	Led for your Head [ Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:49 pm ]
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The Reds may have been eliminated but I'm not about to let this nonsense continue. Realistic Reds offseason plan: Contract extension for BP Try to find a top-end starter (Shields is obtainable, and I think that King Felix is, too, but it would cost several arms and several legs. I think its worth it) Groom Francisco or Alonso to be Rolen's replacement or trade one of them (if not in a pitching package) for his replacement SS and LF have been black holes offensively for us and a good solution isn't immediately available. no se hermanos no se Find a cheap closer (Decline option on CoCo, possibly re-sign him for cheap, or take a look at the number of free agent options)

Author:	zephead8 [ Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:11 pm ]
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*shakes red sox. wake the fuck up well this is getting scary. buchholz should help matters, i just hope its enough.

Author:	corrections [ Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:44 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: MLB.
zephead8 wrote: *shakes red sox. wake the fuck up well this is getting scary. buchholz should help matters, i just hope its enough. Buchholz should help mattes in the sense that what you are trotting out at 2-5 right now probably wouldn't frighten a college team but I doubt he'll be able to pitch particularly effectively. It all comes down to the series with the Rays. If you can get a split with the Rays I guarantee you win the division. If you lose 3 it's a little more harry but I think with the Rays playing the Yanks twice as much you can hold on to a one game lead. You get swept though (which is a real possibility) and I think the team folds and you miss. That series is all that matters. Edit: Well after tonight that gives you a little sigh of relief. You still have to win at least one against them.

Author:	corrections [ Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:32 pm ]
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chicken sandwich wrote: thank good they can hit. This team will be fine once they get Beckett back and Lester's last performance was a fluke, he won't pitch that poorly again. Bard also doesn't normally pitch this bad and should turn things around. Lackey sucks though, the Red Sox need to be done with him. His h/9 this year is astronomical Bard is pitching this bad because he's gassed. The whole bull pen is because they've had to cover for so many starts over the past month.

Author:	Patrick [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:32 am ]
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pgm that's a trick question -- it doesn't matter because they'll both be so much better than the person they're up against

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