lolmadbro?

I am a little curious as to why he seems to have chosen me to troll.

Al "It worked in Madden" Davis

Sorry, Bones. Looks like we stole two ends from you:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200000 ... nd-raiders

Cutler is factually a much better player than Schaub. He probably puts up similar stats on those Texans teams, and Schaub would have had the Bears in the gutter the last few years.

Edit: In five seasons with the Bears Cutler's been sacked 167 times. In seven seasons with the Texans Schaub was sacked 160 times. That's just the tip of the iceberg as far as differences between the talent of the rest of the offense. I don't think a lot of people realize just how shitty Cutler's situation has been for most of his Bears career.

Also, "faith in Cutler" probably means faith in the fact that Cutler can take that specific offensive system to the playoffs. I don't think he's putting him at 'elite' level (who would?).

You're fucking kidding right? His line has been great for most of his career in Houston and especially in 2012. Cutler had close to the worst line in the league the entirety of his time in Chicago. And he didn't have a real receiver until Brandon Marshall and finally had a second with Jeffrey this year. Oh and he didn't have a real O coordinator until this year.

And saying have a good receiver other than Andre Johnson is like saying "oh when did Troy Aikman ever have a good receiver except for Michael Irvin". Johnson is a future hall of famer. But he's always had good tight ends.

You're fucking on crack dude. Nelson made Flynn look decently competent (not good). Nelson is one of the best receivers in the league. Jones is a number 2 who you are paying number 1 money to. Poor decision.

You saw incorrectly. It wasn't a top pass blocking line but it was a good one. Matt Schaub is and has always had shitty pocket awareness and lousy escabability which is what caused his sacks.

You just acted like you got a number 1 receiver in your previous post. Don't try to worm your way out now. When that set of receivers was healthy he was the third best receiver.

Seriously? Just posting their stats? And why not include Schaub's 2013, but do include Cutler's 2009, and not include his best year (which is entirely independent of Schaub being garbage)? 2009 was when he was a young player used to dominant weapons at his side, who was in way over is head when Jerry Angelo just assumed he would make them contenders by himself. For the next 3 years that's essentially what he had to do; picks are gonna happen, some TDs won't get thrown. He's had a new OC every year since he's been on the team, and the first ones didn't care at all for his personal safety (which was hard not to worry about many times). Regardless, in 2011 he has the team at 7-3, on a 5-game winning streak, and top 5 in everybody's power rankings before he goes down. Caleb Hanie took over, and advanced stats indicate that he was literally the worst quarterback of all-time. That's what those Bears offenses could do to a quarterback without serious skills.

In 2012 he finally gets a #1 receiver besides Johnny "Who?" Knox, except his "offensive coordinator" Mike Tice was originally only supposed to handle the running game and had never called plays in his life at any level of coaching before. Then he gets an actual offensive mind (you know, like Gary Kubiak) and his projected state-line for a full 16 games is: 3,914 yards, 27 TDs, 16 picks. Every indication says Cutler has indeed matured greatly over the years, and can be successful with the right opportunities. I don't think a single GM would take Schaub over Cutler, if you want to look at it look that.

Agreed with Corrections and Eric J here. I wouldn't say Cutler is a MUCH better QB than Schaub (sans last season), but he certainly is better. And our line was decent at pass blocking when we had a competent RT and RG, which is no longer the case.

That's not the only reason; the Bears would have been contenders with an average defense last year, it's fair to assume they will be contenders, barring another slew of injuries. The Raiders are a mess. Plus he already knows how to play against NFC North offenses.

Allen's double-digit sack guy every year and is only 1 year older than Tuck. I would pay him the extra couple million. Also the Bears are ridiculously smart with contracts. Allen's is essentially a 2 year deal worth 7.25 a year, whatever they're saying on ESPN.

And as a number 1 he will not be good

Just listened to a radio interview with a reporter from the Chicago Sun Times. He said "faith in Jay Cutler" really meant that he was sick of being on a team that played musical chairs with its quarterback.

looks like the raiders are gonna nab mjd. they should now get desean jackson