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Author:  Eric J [ Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:21 am ]
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Yeah idk what the hell's going on. I'd rather they start David Fales (who a lot of people rated as a third round qb). It'll be nice to see how much of the problem Cutler really was, but Clausen probably still sucks so I'm not sure he'll be the best comparison. Trestman might just be looking for a scapegoat after hearing he'll get fired. Don't really care that much about this season anymore, still just hoping everything gets scraped -- GM, coach, QB and all -- and rebuilt.
Author:  Eric J [ Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NFL.
Wonder if the Bills would consider swapping Cutler and Orton again. I wouldn't mind seeing that.
Author:  Eric J [ Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NFL.
Can athletes just "quit" their jobs and sign with a new team without getting the money they would if they were released? Like if the Bears couldn't trade or release him because of cap issues, could he just be like "fuck you guys," quit his job like any other job, and try to sign somewhere else?
Author:  corrections [ Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:11 am ]
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Eric J wrote:
Wonder if the Bills would consider swapping Cutler and Orton again. I wouldn't mind seeing that.


No way (don't think it works in their cap either). Jets are your best bet
Author:  corrections [ Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NFL.
Eric J wrote:
Can athletes just "quit" their jobs and sign with a new team without getting the money they would if they were released? Like if the Bears couldn't trade or release him because of cap issues, could he just be like "fuck you guys," quit his job like any other job, and try to sign somewhere else?


No. He can retire of course and that ends their obligation to pay him (though he actually still counts as a cap hit so it doesn't save you that much though I'm not sure how it works with his particular contract which I believe is more base and less bonus based) but the Bears still control his rights if he tries to come back (if he had years left on his contract and is not eligible for free agency). And if you retire the contract length doesn't run I believe. So for example the Cowboys had to trade something to Baltimore to acquire McClain's rights.
Author:  corrections [ Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NFL.
Eric J wrote:
Yeah idk what the hell's going on. I'd rather they start David Fales (who a lot of people rated as a third round qb). It'll be nice to see how much of the problem Cutler really was, but Clausen probably still sucks so I'm not sure he'll be the best comparison. Trestman might just be looking for a scapegoat after hearing he'll get fired. Don't really care that much about this season anymore, still just hoping everything gets scraped -- GM, coach, QB and all -- and rebuilt.


I bet they probably start Fales in the last game. Think you're right in theory but throwing him to the Lions (literally) in his first game seems cruel. But there was really no need to bench Cutler right now either (although maybe it was a kindness, maybe they really hate Claussen)
Author:  corrections [ Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NFL.
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-p ... de-market/

Btw Eric here is your answer on release or retirement (which would be treated the same)

And here is Barnwell's article solely on this:

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/chica ... scapegoat/
Author:  joe c [ Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NFL.
Maybe Trestman is giving the finger to the organization and/or Cutler by starting one of the worst qbs in the league right now.
Author:  jumpman8828 [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:47 pm ]
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Author:  Eric J [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NFL.
^I haven't heard/seen that anywhere. A theory in Chicago for his benching was that they did already have a trade agreed to.

Actually despite the things I've said I think it's pretty possible he's just had a bad season, as players sometimes do, and could still be pretty good. This isn't necessarily what "he'll always be" because he's played much better than this in a Bears uniform.
Author:  joe c [ Sat Dec 20, 2014 1:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NFL.
all my friends seem to think cutler to the rams

i say no
Author:  corrections [ Sat Dec 20, 2014 3:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NFL.
joe c wrote:
all my friends seem to think cutler to the rams

i say no


I want the Rams to troll Washington fans by sending them like a 3rd round pick for RGIII
Author:  Eric J [ Sat Dec 20, 2014 5:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NFL.
:lol: That'd be perfect.
Author:  pgm [ Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:03 pm ]
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Congrats to the Cowboys on the division. That's all I'll say on the subject.
Author:  corrections [ Sun Dec 21, 2014 1:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NFL.
Thank you Washington indigenous persons!
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