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Author:  Eric J [ Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NFL.

:lol:

What a fucking shitty way to miss half a season though, especially a "make or break" year.

Author:  corrections [ Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NFL.

Eric J wrote:
:lol:

What a fucking shitty way to miss half a season though, especially a "make or break" year.


I think it's 6 to 10 weeks from todays date so not half the season but a good bit of it

Author:  corrections [ Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NFL.

Bones wrote:
Who knows, maybe the Jets backup QB comes in and does well and Geno getting punched in the jaw ends up being the best thing to happen to their season.


Well it's Fitzgerald so I'm sure he'll be shy or just shy of adequate. But you know he's not a long term answer (granted it's 90% certain that Geno at this point isn't but there is still a 10% chance he develops into something more)

Author:  corrections [ Wed Aug 12, 2015 2:58 pm ]
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Bones wrote:
You mean Fitzpatrick? Yeah I don't think he's a long-term upgrade at all. He'll have his usual good 7-8 weeks then eventually will fall back into mediocrity. He does it every season no matter what team he plays for.


:lol: :durr:

Yes I meant Fitzpatrick.

Author:  Hang [ Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NFL.

Okay guys its hard to get a read on the hype over here, but how is Jarryd Hayne travelling? Is there anyone at all talking about him or is it all a bit overblown here?

Author:  Hang [ Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:39 am ]
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oh yeah follow up question. Do you even know who jarryd hayne is?

Author:  Eric J [ Mon Aug 24, 2015 6:38 pm ]
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The hype surrounding him wouldn't have gotten out of San Francisco if he wasn't coming over from rugby. That doesn't mean he can't be good though. There's some players on the 49ers who say he's gonna be an absolute beast, though teammates say that all the time about players that never pan out. He's looked pretty good and will probably make the roster. I'm trying to check my pride (about a rugby player being really good at football), but there are a few things that would give me pause. Given that it's the preseason so far he's only played against backups and starters that are mostly just trying not to get hurt (to be fair that means he's outperformed a lot of backups). Most running backs are only effective until 30-ish, he's already 27 and I can't think of a position a rugby player would be able to pick up well without any football experience besides running back or kick/punt returner. He also has a very upright running style, which it looks like is the standard in rugby or Aussie rules but will eventually get you hurt in the NFL. It would surprise me if he's ever anything more than a #2 running back or starting kick returner (which is still pretty good), but he looks like a beast physically so who knows. Should be interesting to watch (and should hopefully settle a few debates between myself and some rugby fan friends from the UK).

Author:  batman [ Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NFL.

in a standard scoring fantasy football league, the word on the street is that you're supposed to pick the best RB available in the first round. in a PPR league should you pick the best WR first?

Author:  pgm [ Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:33 pm ]
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It probably depends on how many points per reception. I find WRs to be fairly inconsistent, at least compared to RBs.

Author:  corrections [ Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NFL.

batman wrote:
in a standard scoring fantasy football league, the word on the street is that you're supposed to pick the best RB available in the first round. in a PPR league should you pick the best WR first?


Probably not but you should consider moving guys like Forte (who catch a shitload of passes) up your board and pushing down say an Adrian Petersen who isn't as good at catching. Guys like Sproles become a lot more valuable in those leagues too

Author:  Hang [ Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NFL.

Comfort_Eagle wrote:
Hang wrote:
Do you even know who jarryd hayne is?

yeah

Hang wrote:
Okay guys its hard to get a read on the hype over here, but how is Jarryd Hayne travelling? Is there anyone at all talking about him or is it all a bit overblown here?

There's definitely some hype surrounding him, and in preseason practices/games he's looked good. Not too sure how rugby positions translate to the NFL, but he'll likely be a running back and/or kick/punt returner if he makes the roster.

I don't follow the preseason too closely, but the team he signed with (the 49ers) were almost gutted completely with trades, injuries and retirements, so I think it's likely we'll see him at some point during the regular season.


Eric J wrote:
The hype surrounding him wouldn't have gotten out of San Francisco if he wasn't coming over from rugby. That doesn't mean he can't be good though. There's some players on the 49ers who say he's gonna be an absolute beast, though teammates say that all the time about players that never pan out. He's looked pretty good and will probably make the roster. I'm trying to check my pride (about a rugby player being really good at football), but there are a few things that would give me pause. Given that it's the preseason so far he's only played against backups and starters that are mostly just trying not to get hurt (to be fair that means he's outperformed a lot of backups). Most running backs are only effective until 30-ish, he's already 27 and I can't think of a position a rugby player would be able to pick up well without any football experience besides running back or kick/punt returner. He also has a very upright running style, which it looks like is the standard in rugby or Aussie rules but will eventually get you hurt in the NFL. It would surprise me if he's ever anything more than a #2 running back or starting kick returner (which is still pretty good), but he looks like a beast physically so who knows. Should be interesting to watch (and should hopefully settle a few debates between myself and some rugby fan friends from the UK).


Cool! Thanks for the responses. I'm just always very skeptical from reports and word of mouth here because they are obviously coming from an Australian perspective and I've heard a lot of people discussing it who have almost certainly never seen an NFL game before. I've heard stuff like, "the americans aren't used to fends so he's just gonna blow them away". It's quite unbearable after a while. Having said that, I must say I gave him absolutely no chance of even making a splash so I'm proud of him because he's one of my favourite players. (he played for my team before he left and was our best player comfortably and one of the best players in the league).

Also, just for the record, Hayne has come from Rugby League and not Rugby Union. Rugby is not really an appropriate short hand for League and is generally only used for Union.

Author:  Eric J [ Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NFL.

Hang wrote:
"the americans aren't used to fends so he's just gonna blow them away"

:lol: It always amazes me how invested some people are in the idea that American football players are pussies. Nigga shit gets a lot worse than stiff-arms (what we call fends, I believe).

Hang wrote:
Also, just for the record, Hayne has come from Rugby League and not Rugby Union. Rugby is not really an appropriate short hand for League and is generally only used for Union.

Is it "Aussie rules" then? Or what?

Author:  Hang [ Tue Aug 25, 2015 7:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NFL.

Eric J wrote:
Hang wrote:
"the americans aren't used to fends so he's just gonna blow them away"

:lol: It always amazes me how invested some people are in the idea that American football players are pussies. Nigga shit gets a lot worse than stiff-arms (what we call fends, I believe).

Hang wrote:
Also, just for the record, Hayne has come from Rugby League and not Rugby Union. Rugby is not really an appropriate short hand for League and is generally only used for Union.

Is it "Aussie rules" then? Or what?


There a lot of people that think like that but I think these people are just clueless and are just used to thinking another sport couldn't possibly have better or smarter athletes.

No it's called Rugby League (NRL). Aussie rules (AFL) is completely different to both but union and league are quite similar. Union is more popular and played competitively by way more countries (and is more intricate and 'interesting') where as league is simpler but probably better to watch consistently imo Or at least easier to get into. Essentially Union is a private school game and league is a public school game. Simplifies things a bit but generally true and quite clear when listening to players from either sports speak. Which is especially why a lot of NRL fans make outlandish comments regards to him and just assume he's gonna be the best player so easily. Generally NRL fans aren't the brightest /generalisation.

Hayne has come from Rugby League and probably one of a handful of players that could be successful in the NFL. The reason it's significant is because he's not just some fringe player trying to make it in America. He actually left the game at the peak of his powers and the reigning MVP of the sport. So basically he was the best player in the NRL at the time and not through sentimentality either because he's only 27.

Author:  batman [ Tue Aug 25, 2015 11:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NFL.

corrections wrote:
batman wrote:
in a standard scoring fantasy football league, the word on the street is that you're supposed to pick the best RB available in the first round. in a PPR league should you pick the best WR first?


Probably not but you should consider moving guys like Forte (who catch a shitload of passes) up your board and pushing down say an Adrian Petersen who isn't as good at catching. Guys like Sproles become a lot more valuable in those leagues too


good tip.

you (or any other fantasy ppl) have any other good general draft advice? i drafted a pretty bad team last year. although i can't be blamed for throwing my first pick away on adrian petersen.

Author:  corrections [ Wed Aug 26, 2015 10:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NFL.

batman wrote:
corrections wrote:
batman wrote:
in a standard scoring fantasy football league, the word on the street is that you're supposed to pick the best RB available in the first round. in a PPR league should you pick the best WR first?


Probably not but you should consider moving guys like Forte (who catch a shitload of passes) up your board and pushing down say an Adrian Petersen who isn't as good at catching. Guys like Sproles become a lot more valuable in those leagues too


good tip.

you (or any other fantasy ppl) have any other good general draft advice? i drafted a pretty bad team last year. although i can't be blamed for throwing my first pick away on adrian petersen.


What's your scoring system on QB touchdowns? How big is the league?

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