portugal did look really bad, which has given me hope there can be a draw or a win for the US.
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| Author: | pgm [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:58 pm ] |
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corrections wrote: Forgotten Son wrote: Booo! Well at least the US still have to play Germany and Portugal. Portugal looks weak as shit though. Germany will steamroll the US though eesh that had enough trouble turtling against Ghana Two things. One, there's a very good chance the game will mean nothing to Germany. That doesn't mean they'll let the U.S. win (ha), but they may not push to score 4. Two, the U.S. is quite a bit shorter than Germany, but isn't as athletically outgunned as they were against Ghana. That means at least a few jumpballs will be up for grabs. Germany will still destroy the U.S. if they're on their game, but the U.S. won't be totally out-hustled. |
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| Author: | Anpass [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:22 pm ] |
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| portugal did look really bad, which has given me hope there can be a draw or a win for the US. |
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| Author: | pgm [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:25 pm ] |
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That can really work either way. I've got to say, I think the "I believe that we will win" chant beats out good ol' "USA! USA! USA!" Great match. |
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| Author: | Hang [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:27 pm ] |
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Portugal will beat USA comfortably. |
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| Author: | Anpass [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:29 pm ] |
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another benefit will be that we play portugal before germany, in the event that injury or penalties are an issue. june 22, 6pm. bleh, another 2am match. |
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| Author: | Hang [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:38 pm ] |
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No, they didn't. They looked like shit against Ghana. Ghana were pathetic in front of goal but USA never were in front of goal and couldn't hold the ball for 5 passes in a row. USA deserved to win by virtue of that they won and not much else. One result against a potential favourite isn't enough for Portugal to lose their shit and they're surely still favourites to beat Ghana and USA. It's not a foregone conclusion, a draw could happen, a loss could happen, but they've still got some of the best in the world and the USA don't. |
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| Author: | Paulie [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:40 pm ] |
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Ghana gonna Ghana |
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| Author: | pgm [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:04 am ] |
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Bones wrote: Hang wrote: Portugal will beat USA comfortably. Hell no. Without Pepe or Coentrao? They're as good as toast. Postiga also looked like shit. Eder isn't much better either. Nani also looked selfish. I wasn't a big fan of the US heading into this thing but I'll tell you for a fact that they looked a million times better than Portugal. Don't forget it'll be in the middle of the Amazon. Portugal should be favored, but I have a feeling anything can happen. The U.S. defense needs to play more disciplined against Portugal, though. |
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| Author: | Hang [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:11 am ] |
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Bones wrote: Hang wrote: No, they didn't. They looked like shit against Ghana. Ghana were pathetic in front of goal but USA never were in front of goal and couldn't hold the ball for 5 passes in a row. USA deserved to win by virtue of that they won and not much else. One result against a potential favourite isn't enough for Portugal to lose their shit and they're surely still favourites to beat Ghana and USA. It's not a foregone conclusion, a draw could happen, a loss could happen, but they've still got some of the best in the world and the USA don't. Possession is overrated. They still won the game with all the attacks they took. Ghana were poor in front of goal but you can't put that on the US. That's their own problem. The US defended well when they had too. Portugal did indeed play a world class team but that isn't why I'm writing them off. I'm writing them off because of the way they played. From the starting whistle they were unorganized, sloppy and careless. And their two best defenders won't be available for god knows how long. I don't see a very good outcome for Portugal this year regardless whether they even get anymore points. Did I even say anything about possession? I said USA deserved to win (because they did). Possession is overrated if you don't do anything with it but Portugal have enough quality to do something with it. They might be sloppy at the back (no doubt) but USA had not a lot going forward, their defence held together well, but like you said, Ghana were terrible in front of goal, you even say "that had nothing to do with USA" - well, that doesn't bode well for them either. If your opposition doesn't score, you surely want it to be because of you! Portugal will definitely score goals against USA, whether they can take their chances with as little opportunity as they had today will be whether they can get a result. |
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| Author: | Anpass [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:14 am ] |
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Asamoah Gyan plays for Al Ain FC, I did not know that. Well, he can play in the heat & humid, for sure. And, I just realised my old boss (brit) from HK was in Brazil at the USA match. Sometimes I am jealous of the uber wealthy. |
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| Author: | wantabodylikeme [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:19 am ] |
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I don't know, possession doesn't seem that overrated to me. To me it basically means "I'm owning you". Unless there are teams that follow the Rocky Balboa technique and let the other team have the ball for awhile. But that didn't seem the case of the U.S., more they were getting owned by faster and more skilled black dudes. |
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| Author: | Anpass [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:47 am ] |
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fast mid-field sprinters tend to destroy well-crafted possession, such as the gareth bales of the world do. heya, is georgi in brasil? |
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| Author: | Georgi [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:50 am ] |
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I'll be there in two weeks!! |
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| Author: | Hang [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:54 am ] |
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wantabodylikeme wrote: I don't know, possession doesn't seem that overrated to me. To me it basically means "I'm owning you". Unless there are teams that follow the Rocky Balboa technique and let the other team have the ball for awhile. But that didn't seem the case of the U.S., more they were getting owned by faster and more skilled black dudes. Against a well organised defence, possession can be very overrated and we've had many great examples over the past few years with a lot of teams that hold the ball well (Barcelona, Spain, Bayern) and a lot of teams that defend well (Chelsea, Inter). You may have heard the term "park the bus", which essentially means you put all 11 players behind the ball (putting a bus in front of the goal), and when you get it, you don't commit to many forward and basically give it back and let the team come at you, hoping to score a lucky goal on the counter. The difficult thing about parking the bus is that it relies on an incredible amount of discipline and luck. As you point out, what you saw today was neither of those examples. Ghana did have high possession but it wasn't really in good areas and USA defended well but were lucky. |
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| Author: | Anpass [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:03 am ] |
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http://www.thenational.ae/sport/world-c ... iving-room http://www.thenational.ae/storyimage/AB ... 619210.jpg this is hilarious so is this [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7J7jMldqfg[/youtube] |
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