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Author:  Rickymaivia [ Fri May 04, 2012 5:33 am ]
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Ariel wrote:
D.J. wrote:
Negative Creep wrote:
Stu, I agree on James Brown.
There's an episode of The Cosby Show where Cliff puts on a live version of "I Got The Feeling".....and man the bass on there is just SMOKIN'! The groove he had going on was just indescribably fucking killer.
The only problem is I don't know who it was.... :oops:



Haha I remember that episode!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBsuwtm8180[/youtube]


Haha you Brits watched the Cosby show too?

And man that's some smokin' bass indeed, word. I'm glad you mentioned this stuff Neg, first time I"ve really paid attention to Odum, man he's groovy, my my


I'm from Italy and the Cosby Show is still very popular on here.
Author:  Ssoyd [ Fri May 04, 2012 6:35 am ]
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Negative Creep wrote:
Argus needs no explanation at all. I got the album years ago and have been hooked ever since.
The first two albums are damn near as good, especially the self-titled debut.

There's also Paul Newton, the original bassist for Uriah Heep:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIl8Et8Dw9Y[/youtube]


Yes I was a big Heep fan but the late Gary Thain was IMO by far their best bassist with a style derived IMO from the great Tim Bogert. A few months ago I suggested he be considered for the list. Sure his death cut his career short but it doesn't stop Clifford Burton from being on the list and Thain was a whole order better bass player than Burton.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP_y2ZG_gM4&feature=fvst
Author:  Ssoyd [ Fri May 04, 2012 7:44 am ]
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Ariel wrote:

That's all for now, but I'd be happy to post more if anyone wants. Cheers. PS Burton's playing was also consistently incredibly expressive, rich and imaginative in Metallica's more 'normal' songs too (see Sanitarium, Fade to Black, Battery, Master of Puppets, The Four Horsemen for evidence!) Cheers


I'm sorry but I'm just not impressed. Use of distortion and effects cannot hide the fact that his bass playing was IMO good certainly but not exceptional. Maybe it's a matter of taste as I'm not into bass effects. IMO another bass player who died prematurely, Gary Thain of Uriah Heep, was a much better player. He let his playing and not electronics do the talking and deserves a spot on the list.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP_y2ZG_gM4&feature=fvst
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpA5XK2CQWE&feature=fvsr
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhdIkhEq ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqLh3Ocw ... re=related
Author:  Negative Creep [ Fri May 04, 2012 9:06 am ]
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Ariel wrote:
Exhibit C: Orion (bass track boosted)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4mb_BnKP1A


Oh man that was GREAT! I totally understand what you mean about these "remastered versions", it's so nice to be able to hear what Cliff was really doing. That is just some great melodic playing, and proof that he didn't always need the effects to sound good.
I also loved how Lars' bass drums were louder as well.

Ariel wrote:
And man that's some smokin' bass indeed, word. I'm glad you mentioned this stuff Neg, first time I"ve really paid attention to Odum, man he's groovy, my my


Yeah, Odum is a master of groove/rhythm. No doubt about it. I love that shit.
I agree on the drummer too, that's Clyde Stubblefield. I'd reckon he'd be a shoe-in for top 50 on the drummers thread.

Ariel wrote:
Haha go figure, just heard In A Gadda Da Vida earlier tonight on Pandora and went word this a creative bassist, wow. Between that and this one you're posting, gonna add him to the 'possibles' list next time I post it, word. Nice find

Gotta respect your encyclopedic knowledge & love of heavy psychedelia lol Neg...and my is that Iron Butterfly theme amazing, wow. First album?


Thanks for the compliment brah. Yeah it's true, 'heavy psych'/'heavy prog' are certainly among my favorite styles of music in the world.
Glad you dug Iron Butterfly Theme....I've always thought that was the first real song that could be considered metal, I mean it sounds like Sabbath but it's two years before Sabbath's debut! So dark and unsettling, the guitar sounds like it's coming straight from the bowels of hell...I love this shit! And yeah it's their first album, aptly titled "Heavy".
HOWEVER, I forgot to mention that those are two different bassists. The bassist on "Heavy" was Jerry Penrod. The bassist on the "In A Gadda Da Vida" album is Lee Dorman. But both are amazing and sound so similar.

Ariel wrote:
Ahahahahahaha

hahahahahahahahahahhaah

This is ONE POST after you declared Steve this one of a kind creative genius hahahaha


I said he was unique, not necessarily creative. He's very distinct. I do think he has some creativity, but that Hamm performance really amazed me.
Author:  Negative Creep [ Fri May 04, 2012 9:22 am ]
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Ssoyd wrote:
Negative Creep wrote:
Argus needs no explanation at all. I got the album years ago and have been hooked ever since.
The first two albums are damn near as good, especially the self-titled debut.

There's also Paul Newton, the original bassist for Uriah Heep:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIl8Et8Dw9Y[/youtube]


Yes I was a big Heep fan but the late Gary Thain was IMO by far their best bassist with a style derived IMO from the great Tim Bogert. A few months ago I suggested he be considered for the list. Sure his death cut his career short but it doesn't stop Clifford Burton from being on the list and Thain was a whole order better bass player than Burton.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP_y2ZG_gM4&feature=fvst


Oh yes I know Thain and Heep very very well. I was, and still am, absolutely IN LOVE with those first five albums.
Members of Heep have said that Gary was the most talented musician in the band (though Byron was one incredible singer), and he does have a lot of great performances with them.
Author:  StuBass [ Fri May 04, 2012 12:36 pm ]
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Quote:
Actually this is the first time I've heard any of this! Awesome, really awesome stuff though, probably the best of your stories so far (aside from seeing Jamerson in a club that is!). Man you ran into some cool people back in the day, Jamerson, Newton, the Pistons, word.

Did the demo tape ever get done acceptably? Lol[/quote]


Stu says...
Haha...actually yes. I was hired as morning news anchor at KMEN-KGGI in San Bernardino (Inland Empire). I stayed there for about a year until I got tired of relatively low wages and wanted to return to the Los Angeles area, which I did. Our FM KGGI 99.1 was the hottest station in the market and we used to kick Rick Dees ass regularly in the ratings with a double digit market share.
Author:  KeithMoonIsGod [ Fri May 04, 2012 3:45 pm ]
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Ariel wrote:
Impressed by Thomas Miller at this point, thanks for posting/mentioning noteworthy bass songs. How does Lepond compare?

Lepond's pretty great too but not as great as Miller.
Domination is a great performance:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7Zhi7QWN2o[/youtube]
Author:  Yngtchie Blacksteen [ Fri May 04, 2012 8:08 pm ]
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I'd say that LePond is just as capable as Miller was, the main difference is that Miller would be more upfront with his playing, flashier so to speak.
Author:  Ssoyd [ Sat May 05, 2012 5:37 am ]
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Negative Creep wrote:

Oh yes I know Thain and Heep very very well. I was, and still am, absolutely IN LOVE with those first five albums.
Members of Heep have said that Gary was the most talented musician in the band (though Byron was one incredible singer), and he does have a lot of great performances with them.


Great another person who appreciates Heep. Here's another live recording of Heep I discovered from a concert in Thain's native New Zealand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiSGLdCo ... re=related

Heep is under appreciated because they got lost in the shuffle with all the great Hard Rock/Metal bands that were around back then. I saw so many great bands live in the 70's that I barely remember them all but 3 concerts stand out as the best, Uriah Heep in 1973, Deep Purple around 1972 and Jethro Tull in 1973.
Author:  Ssoyd [ Sat May 05, 2012 5:48 am ]
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More Uriah Heep with great Bass by Gary Thain. Tell me he doesn't deserve a spot in the top 50 at least.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqszsnt2FTU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLCq9X1j ... =fvwp&NR=1

I'm sick of lesser players being recognized while Thain is ignored. The same is true of Heep, one of the best bands of the 70's.
Author:  StuBass [ Sat May 05, 2012 12:01 pm ]
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Lloyd Brevett passed away Thursday at the age of 80. Brevett was a founding member of the Skatalites and is considered the Godfather of Jamaican bassists and Jamaican music in general...comparable to Louis Armstrongs influence on American Jazz. He has received numerous awards and honors in his native country. He was Phil Chens early primary influence.
Author:  Rickymaivia [ Sat May 05, 2012 2:12 pm ]
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Ssoyd wrote:
More Uriah Heep with great Bass by Gary Thain. Tell me he doesn't deserve a spot in the top 50 at least.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqszsnt2FTU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLCq9X1j ... =fvwp&NR=1

I'm sick of lesser players being recognized while Thain is ignored. The same is true of Heep, one of the best bands of the 70's.


I agree and I think the drummer Lee Kerslake is very underrated as well.
Author:  Negative Creep [ Sat May 05, 2012 3:20 pm ]
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Ssoyd wrote:
More Uriah Heep with great Bass by Gary Thain. Tell me he doesn't deserve a spot in the top 50 at least.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqszsnt2FTU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLCq9X1j ... =fvwp&NR=1

I'm sick of lesser players being recognized while Thain is ignored. The same is true of Heep, one of the best bands of the 70's.


Oh yeah I remember getting that album for my 18th birthday back in '02. Great stuff throughout, although I prefer Heep in the studio personally.
Author:  Ssoyd [ Sat May 05, 2012 3:57 pm ]
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Negative Creep wrote:
Ssoyd wrote:
More Uriah Heep with great Bass by Gary Thain. Tell me he doesn't deserve a spot in the top 50 at least.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqszsnt2FTU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLCq9X1j ... =fvwp&NR=1

I'm sick of lesser players being recognized while Thain is ignored. The same is true of Heep, one of the best bands of the 70's.


Oh yeah I remember getting that album for my 18th birthday back in '02. Great stuff throughout, although I prefer Heep in the studio personally.


The sound is less than stellar in these live recordings to say the least. If you had heard them in person back then you would have to say their live performance was better than the studio work. Much more intense and exciting.
Author:  Coconut73 [ Sat May 05, 2012 11:25 pm ]
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I just joined this forum. I've been reading these past posts and these are really interesting discussions. I look forward to participating!
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