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I think it's a case of what you're used to, but after flicking through that episode the voices all seem wrong. Leaving that aside, I generally prefer subs over dubs because as a non-Japanese speaker it's that much harder to tell if a voice actor is crap. Plus it's weird watching obviously Japanese characters speaking with thick American accents. This is partially why the listed Berserk earlier. The English dub isn't better acted than the Japanese, but it sounds more natural for characters in a European-Medieval Fantasy to speak English. Similarly it bugs the crap out of me when an anime includes an English (or other non-Japanese speaker) character but opts to have a Japanese voice actor with very little familiarity with the language speak that language.

Forgotten Son wrote:

I generally prefer subs over dubs because as a non-Japanese speaker it's that much harder to tell if a voice actor is crap.

Totally with you there.

Bleach is a great example, I don't know how "good" the Japanese dub is but everyone just sounds perfect for the character, in the English dub a couple of the main characters like Ichigo and Rukia sound good but damn near everyone else just sounds wrong.

Edward Elric as Ikkaku (the crazy bald guy with eyeliner) being the best example.

Oh my god Light's Japanese voice actor is perfect. So is L's.

You guys have no taste.

Paranoia Agent had one of the best English dubs I've heard from an Anime. Miyazaki dubs while not perfect are usually pretty good as well.

But Cowboy Bebop is probably the gold standard.

boo boo wrote:

Forgotten Son wrote:

I generally prefer subs over dubs because as a non-Japanese speaker it's that much harder to tell if a voice actor is crap.

God that English dub is fucking AWFUL. Too many characters and not enough voice actors so they recycle a bunch too. And the ADR writer is like a D-list script writer.

Spice and Wolf :ugh:

Not a series, but the film Steamboy is quality.

Author:	corrections [ Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:56 pm ]
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Forgotten Son wrote: I think it's a case of what you're used to, but after flicking through that episode the voices all seem wrong. Leaving that aside, I generally prefer subs over dubs because as a non-Japanese speaker it's that much harder to tell if a voice actor is crap. Plus it's weird watching obviously Japanese characters speaking with thick American accents. This is partially why the listed Berserk earlier. The English dub isn't better acted than the Japanese, but it sounds more natural for characters in a European-Medieval Fantasy to speak English. Similarly it bugs the crap out of me when an anime includes an English (or other non-Japanese speaker) character but opts to have a Japanese voice actor with very little familiarity with the language speak that language. I get this (although strangely with Champloo even with its period setting I love the dub). That's why FMA works though because its world is very much European in construction.

Author:	corrections [ Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:58 pm ]
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boo boo wrote: Forgotten Son wrote: I generally prefer subs over dubs because as a non-Japanese speaker it's that much harder to tell if a voice actor is crap. Totally with you there. Bleach is a great example, I don't know how "good" the Japanese dub is but everyone just sounds perfect for the character, in the English dub a couple of the main characters like Ichigo and Rukia sound good but damn near everyone else just sounds wrong. Edward Elric as Ikkaku (the crazy bald guy with eyeliner) being the best example. God that English dub is fucking AWFUL. Too many characters and not enough voice actors so they recycle a bunch too. And the ADR writer is like a D-list script writer.

Author:	corrections [ Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:00 pm ]
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beyonddeities wrote: Oh my god Light's Japanese voice actor is perfect. So is L's. You guys have no taste. No one is saying they aren't. We were talking about the dub actors in the good dub. They're quite good in both versions.

Author:	corrections [ Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:02 pm ]
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boo boo wrote: Paranoia Agent had one of the best English dubs I've heard from an Anime. Miyazaki dubs while not perfect are usually pretty good as well. But Cowboy Bebop is probably the gold standard. Pretty much. Helps to have a smallish cast of major voices. English dubs run into the most trouble when there are a huge array of characters because we don't have a particularly deep stable of voice actors. I'd say Funimation probably does the most consistent job reversioning stuff and they're headquartered in Dallas. Interestingly Ed Blaylock (who does Fuhrer Bradley in both FMAs) is one of the local classical radio station DJs and its hilarious to hear him on the radio.

Author:	boo boo [ Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:41 pm ]
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corrections wrote: boo boo wrote: Forgotten Son wrote: I generally prefer subs over dubs because as a non-Japanese speaker it's that much harder to tell if a voice actor is crap. Totally with you there. Bleach is a great example, I don't know how "good" the Japanese dub is but everyone just sounds perfect for the character, in the English dub a couple of the main characters like Ichigo and Rukia sound good but damn near everyone else just sounds wrong. Edward Elric as Ikkaku (the crazy bald guy with eyeliner) being the best example. God that English dub is fucking AWFUL. Too many characters and not enough voice actors so they recycle a bunch too. And the ADR writer is like a D-list script writer. Yeah I can't even watch the English dub anymore, the only character it really comes close to nailing is Rukia, though she sounds older than a "15" year old girl should sound her voice at least fits her personality, probably the only one that's even comparable to the original.

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Author:	thejew [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:12 pm ]
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Finished 3 anime so far this semester: The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, Elfen Lied, and Angel Beats. Didn't care too much for The Melancholy. The story seemed like it would go somewhere interesting but then ended up doing nothing (although it being out of order could be part of what hindered my appreciation for it). There were some interesting characters at least, even if they just follow familiar anime archetypes. Elfen Lied started out tremendously boring, and had way too much goreporn in it for my tastes. But the story wasn't too bad I guess, so it was a decent show. Angel Beats was a good show, although I felt it would've been much better if it was stretched out some (it was only 13 episodes and felt a bit condensed). There was also some absolutely wasted screentime in it (same with The Melancholy). Really sad story though, although not quite Clannad-level heart-wrenching. To elaborate on the wasted screentime, I hate when animes have musical performances in them when it isn't really relevant to the story (both Angel Beats and The Melancholy had this where certain characters would perform a song on stage. It happened multiple times in Angel Beats, to my frustration).

Author:	Sherick [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:09 pm ]
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I'm starting to watch Mushishi. Just sublime. Travis Willingham is the absolute perfect voice for it.

Author:	European Son [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:10 pm ]
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Mushishi is brilliant. I watched it during my free period every day until I was done. I love it.

Author:	thejew [ Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:19 pm ]
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Does anyone know of a good Steampunk styled anime? Started watching Spice and Wolf and Serial Experiments Lain in the meantime.

Author:	Sherick [ Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:57 pm ]
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Spice and Wolf Not a series, but the film Steamboy is quality.

Author:	thejew [ Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:43 pm ]
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Sherick wrote: Spice and Wolf Not a series, but the film Steamboy is quality. Only one episode in but not liking Spice and Wolf at all thus far. I just wanted to watch Reddit's top 20 anime for myself (it's one of five that I haven't seen, along with Madoka Magica, Ghost in the Shell: SAC, One Piece, and K-On). Also I'll check that out, thanks.

Author:	Anpass [ Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:28 am ]
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRHJntLYMh0[/youtube] anime meets jazz (Sakamichi no Apollon)

Author:	Forgotten Son [ Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:36 am ]
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Great show. It got me into Jazz incidentally, particularly Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers. Also it's end theme music is one of the best slices of pop I've ever heard.

Author:	beyonddeities [ Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:51 am ]
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Man, I've been rewatching NANA and it is so damn good. Particularly the characterization and the three-dimensional quality all the characters have -- and the drama itself is possibly one of the best -- anime and non-anime shows included. I don't often feel like I can relate much to 'drama' TV shows, it's more an escape but NANA really goes in depth and shows the vulnerability of the characters so expertly and respectfully.

Author:	Forgotten Son [ Sun Mar 17, 2013 3:29 am ]
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Another brilliant music anime, and a strong contender for my top ten. Compared to the widely touted BECK, Nana has much better songs which helps give the, admittedly occasionally soap opera-ish, plot that much more emotional punch. I totally agree on the character depth. With the exception of Nana Komatsu, who I find to be insufferable for the most part, the characters are brilliantly written. Yasu is probably my favourite of all of them. The dude's a boss.

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