100 Greatest Rock Artists (under revision)

Bruce · **Posted:** Sat May 12, 2012 1:32 am

Echoes wrote:

Bruce wrote:

These would be the tiers:

32. Bob Marley and the Wailers
63. Eric Clapton (solo and with bands)
70. Eagles

114. AC/DC
123. Crosby, Stills and Nash
127. Fleetwood Mac
152. Clovers
173. Eric B. and Rakim
195. Al Green
199. The Clash

201. Joni Mitchell
224. Janet Jackson
250. Aerosmith
274. Radiohead
NOT. Roy Brown

And where do you have John Lennon?

174. John Lennon

pave · **Posted:** Sat May 12, 2012 1:37 am

Negative Creep wrote:

Quote:

Eric Clapton
Aerosmith
Radiohead
AC/DC
The Eagles
Fleetwood Mac
Eric B. and Rakim
Al Green
Crosby, Stills, & Nash (& Young)
The Clash
Bob Marley & the Wailers
Joni Mitchell
Janet Jackson
The Clovers
Roy Brown

Rank 'em, 1-15.

I'm not really sure about ranking them all, but I think Eric B. & Rakim is the greatest of those 15.

there is no way in hell Eric B & Rakim is the greatest of those 15. in terms of influence within their subgenre, they are huge. but so are The Clash and Bob Marley, who are far more popular. Eric B & Rakim have some musical impact and a lot of influence, but no cultural impact at all and very little popularity. i'm a huge fan of them, but i don't think they even come close to the top 100 let alone top Marley or The Clash.

anyway i would put it like this:

top tier (by a large margin over the rest)
Bob Marley
The Clash

second tier
The Eagles
AC/DC
Aerosmith
Eric Clapton
Fleetwood Mac

third tier
Al Green
Radiohead
Joni Mitchell
The Clovers
Eric B. & Rakim
Crosby, Stills & Nash
Roy Brown
Janet Jackson

pave · **Posted:** Sat May 12, 2012 1:52 am

Echoes wrote:

I know that he sold more records, but Clapton doesn’t have a song as popular as Imagine.

are you trolling? or do you not see how ridiculous your arguments are? you are just selecting whatever criteria you want. who cares if Lennon has one song more popular than any of Clapton's? by that logic, you'd have to put The Village People and Aqua in the top 20 for YMCA and Barbie Girl. one popular song doesn't matter. Clapton's solo career was more popular than Lennon's. its just a fact.

ClashWho · **Posted:** Sat May 12, 2012 11:00 am

Echoes wrote:

McCartney played yesterday here in Mexico City in front of 200,000 people

Did he play any other songs?

McMurphy · **Posted:** Sat May 12, 2012 11:11 am

Echoes wrote:

Bruno_Antonio wrote:

Why Eric B. and Rakim? He's not top 100.

By the way, Clapton > Lennon. And Paul McCartney / Wings > Lennon too.

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IMO Paul McCartney should be in the top 100 (he ties Rod Stewart, for example).

No he freaking doesn't. Rod Stewart is more popular, probably more influential, has at least as much musical impact.... stop making these unsubstantiated claims that people who aren't the top 100 belong there.

Echoes · **Joined:** Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:43 am **Posts:** 4564

pave wrote:

Echoes wrote:

I know that he sold more records, but Clapton doesn’t have a song as popular as Imagine.

are you trolling? or do you not see how ridiculous your arguments are? you are just selecting whatever criteria you want. who cares if Lennon has one song more popular than any of Clapton's? by that logic, you'd have to put The Village People and Aqua in the top 20 for YMCA and Barbie Girl. one popular song doesn't matter. Clapton's solo career was more popular than Lennon's. its just a fact.

Relax pal, I am kind of new in this thread so I don´t know how you rate the different criteria. If for this list having one of the most popular songs on the history of rock is not considered as a valid argument for Popularity fine by me, I disagree, but whatever.

BTW, I really don't get how you can compare Imagine (which is one of the most acclaimed rock songs ever) to YMCA.

Echoes · **Joined:** Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:43 am **Posts:** 4564

McMurphy wrote:

Echoes wrote:

Bruno_Antonio wrote:

Why Eric B. and Rakim? He's not top 100.

By the way, Clapton > Lennon. And Paul McCartney / Wings > Lennon too.

Quote:

IMO Paul McCartney should be in the top 100 (he ties Rod Stewart, for example).

No he freaking doesn't. Rod Stewart is more popular, probably more influential, has at least as much musical impact.... stop making these unsubstantiated claims that people who aren't the top 100 belong there.

I just found the other part of the list:

101. Red Hot Chili Peppers
102. Grandmaster Flash & the Furious 5
103. Wilson Pickett
104. The Coasters
105. The Four Tops
106. Green Day
107. Guns 'N' Roses
108. Paul McCartney / Wings
109. Kanye West
110. Etta James
111. Big Joe Turner
112. Lynyrd Skynyrd
113. Iron Maiden
114. LL Cool J
115. Earth, Wind, & Fire
116. Dion (& the Belmonts)
117. Santana
118. The Dominoes
119. Joy Division/New Order
120. Rick Nelson
121. Lavern Baker
122. Martha & the Vandellas
123. Jefferson Airplane
124. The Moody Blues
125. Johnny Otis
126. Roxy Music
127. The Jackson 5 / The Jacksons
128. John Lennon

All the artists I have mentioned are almost in the top 100, so why can´t I push for them to be a little higher?

ClashWho · **Posted:** Sat May 12, 2012 11:38 am

Echoes wrote:

BTW, I really don't get how you can compare Imagine (which is one of the most acclaimed rock songs ever) to YMCA.

In terms of popularity? Easily.

ClashWho · **Posted:** Sat May 12, 2012 11:39 am

Echoes wrote:

All the artists I have mentioned are almost in the top 100, so why can´t I push for them to be a little higher?

Why those particular artists?

Bruno · **Joined:** Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:00 am **Posts:** 3702

Well, I really don't know why Guns is outside of top 100. I see that Pearl Jam and Guns is almost a tie.

The other ones ... RHCP, EWF could belong in the top 100.
Jackson 5/Jacksons and Green Day are pretty close too.

Echoes · **Joined:** Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:43 am **Posts:** 4564

ClashWho wrote:

Echoes wrote:

BTW, I really don't get how you can compare Imagine (which is one of the most acclaimed rock songs ever) to YMCA.

In terms of popularity? Easily.

What about acclaim? I feel like this forum is to much into who sold more records and who have better success at the Billboard charts.

Echoes · **Joined:** Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:43 am **Posts:** 4564

ClashWho wrote:

Echoes wrote:

All the artists I have mentioned are almost in the top 100, so why can´t I push for them to be a little higher?

Why those particular artists?

Because I feel that they are the only ones that have been wrongly left outside of the Top 100 (and maybe Johnny Cash but if he is outside of the top 100 is because for this list he is not considered rock, right?).

ClashWho · **Posted:** Sat May 12, 2012 12:41 pm

Echoes wrote:

ClashWho wrote:

Echoes wrote:

BTW, I really don't get how you can compare Imagine (which is one of the most acclaimed rock songs ever) to YMCA.

In terms of popularity? Easily.

What about acclaim?

Your "Imagine" argument was about POPULARITY. You made that argument.

Echoes · **Joined:** Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:43 am **Posts:** 4564

Then acclaim:

Ranking at DDD: #15
Ranking at Rolling Stone: #3
Q - 100 greatest songs of all time: #25
VH1 100 greatest rock songs: #10
Acclaimed Music: #30

ClashWho · **Posted:** Sat May 12, 2012 1:27 pm

Echoes wrote:

Then acclaim:

Acclaimed Music: #30

Acclaimed Music is all we need, really, since it compiles all the other lists.

"Imagine" is #33. Why did you have to lie by three spots?

"Layla" is #50.

That's practically a tie.

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