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 Post subject: Re: 250+ Greatest Rock Guitarists
PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:21 pm 
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But since you can't gather all three guitarists in The Beatles in a team, where do you reckon the three different players could be placed?


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 Post subject: Re: 250+ Greatest Rock Guitarists
PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:32 pm 
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I think that Harrison should be around Townshend, May, Santana and Gilmour. Lennon would be fine around Hank Marvin and Duane Eddy.

The case for McCartney is more difficult. Maybe the correct answer is to place him as a top session guitarists (mainly because of his work with The Beatles) so next to The Funk Brothers could be a good spot (but that would be weird because he would be ahead of Lennon). So maybe he could be placed along other group of great session players like Gomez, Verheyen and Landau.


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 Post subject: Re: 250+ Greatest Rock Guitarists
PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:28 pm 
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Echoes wrote:
1.Move Harrison and Richards up. Can you imagine rock music in general without those two?


George wrote:
no. and yes I can.


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 Post subject: Re: 250+ Greatest Rock Guitarists
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Why do you reckon Lennon and McCartney should be that high compared to Brian Jones? What would explain your reasoning?


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Mutthound wrote:
Do you intentionally misspell "influential" every single time you type it? Seriously, you obviously have a good grasp on language and writing. Your thoughts are usually well stated and perfectly coherent. The consistency with which you misspell that single word is amazing. It's enough to sometimes make me wonder if the rest of the world has it wrong.


What's even worse is that I've been aware of this for some time and I still fuck up. :oops:

I was pretty atrocious at spelling and grammar when I first joined DDD, which I honestly owe a lot to helping me improve greatly over the years, but some of my old habits stick I guess.


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 Post subject: Re: 250+ Greatest Rock Guitarists
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Yngtchie Blacksteen wrote:
Why do you reckon Lennon and McCartney should be that high compared to Brian Jones? What would explain your reasoning?


Maybe Brian Jones should also be really high, the thing is that I don´t know in which songs he plays. Maybe some diehard fan of The Rolling Stones could come here and tell us what his contributions were.

However, I know in which songs Lennon and McCartney played (and there is a list in The Beatles guitar thread). For example, if we rate McCartney as the session guitarists of the following songs I think he could be placed really high on this list: Taxman, Helter Skelter, The End, And Your Bird Can Sing , Blackbird, Drive My Car, Paperback Writer, She's A Woman, Ticket to Ride, Back In The U.S.S.R., Sgt Pepper´s Lonely Hearts Club Band, etc. All of those songs show great creativity, originality and versatility from McCartney as a guitarist.

I also know that Lennon and McCartney were highly influential (for example you can hear Lennon´s influence as guitarist on Cobain). Maybe in the case of McCartney is harder to tell his individual influence as a guitarist and that is mostly why I feel is better to have them as a team.


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 Post subject: Re: 250+ Greatest Rock Guitarists
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Macca's not a session guitarist in his own band. Also, there's no way we're putting someone in a team when they had a substantial recording career outside that band. Both Lennon and Harrison made some of their most important and celebrated music after The Beatles, so it would be ridiculous to ignore that and just look at them as two guys in The Beatles. With Macca, it'd be even more ridiculous, when you look at how prolific and successful he's been in the past 42 years.


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 Post subject: Re: 250+ Greatest Rock Guitarists
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I am not saying that McCartney was a session guitarist in The Beatles. I am saying let’s suppose he were and find a place for him.


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 Post subject: Re: 250+ Greatest Rock Guitarists
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Or let's not suppose, and instead try and find a good and sensible placement for him on the list.


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Yeah I think teaming up The Beatles is a bad idea.

And I still don't think Yorke should be teamed up with Greenwood and O'Brien. Not because Yorke's guitar work doesn't have a role in Radiohead's sound, but he mostly plays simple rhythm parts and usually on acoustic guitar. All the insanely creative electric guitar parts are the handiwork of Greenwood and O'Brien.


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 Post subject: Re: 250+ Greatest Rock Guitarists
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I agree with boobs about Yorke.
I remember someone comparing grouping York with O'Brien and Greenwood to grouping Jon Bon Jovi with Richie Sambora. Both Yorke and Bon Jovi and primarily singer/songwriters, and only play very few amounts of guitar, whether it be acoustic parts or small rhythm parts live.


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 Post subject: Re: 250+ Greatest Rock Guitarists
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What about Ray Davies, how's his importance as a guitarist in The Kinks' music?


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 Post subject: Re: 250+ Greatest Rock Guitarists
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Yngtchie Blacksteen wrote:
Or let's not suppose, and instead try and find a good and sensible placement for him on the list.


I think that he scores as high as any other session guitarist on the list. Even more if we take into consideration his 40+ years career.


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 Post subject: Re: 250+ Greatest Rock Guitarists
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KeithMoonIsGod wrote:
I agree with boobs about Yorke.
I remember someone comparing grouping York with O'Brien and Greenwood to grouping Jon Bon Jovi with Richie Sambora. Both Yorke and Bon Jovi and primarily singer/songwriters, and only play very few amounts of guitar, whether it be acoustic parts or small rhythm parts live.


I also agree with droping Yorke and Ray Davies.


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 Post subject: Re: 250+ Greatest Rock Guitarists
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Wasn't adding Yorke to the team your idea to begin with?


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