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 Post subject: Re: The Top 10 Metal albums by year:
PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:02 pm 
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for some reason I didn't even read this page yet, so this post never existed


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 Post subject: Re: The Top 10 Metal albums by year:
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dmille wrote:
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This is the metal forum. Not the Shit That Seemed Heavy in 1948 forum.


I seem to recall that my post was for 1970. And Black Sabbath was at the top of my list. Are you saying that they are sufficiently heavy enough for the DDD forum?


You know exactly what I'm saying. Now I'm moving on from this stupid discussion and I (and likely everyone here) will be ignoring your useless posts.


Well, I will be posting 1971 soon. Look forward to your feedback.


If it doesn't follow the guidelines that we have set for what is and what is not metal than you are simply going off-topic in the thread. I will delete these posts.


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 Post subject: Re: The Top 10 Metal albums by year:
PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:51 pm 
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You may as well delete them because I'm not making any lists for the 70s.

1. Sleep - Dopesmoker
2. Enslaved - Below the Lights
3. Kamelot - Epica
4. Drudkh - Forgotten Legends
5. Children of Bodom - Hate Crew Deathroll
6. Lost Horizon - A Flame to the Ground Beneath
7. Dimmu Borgir - Death Cult Armageddon
8. Lamb of God - As the Palaces Burn
9. Kayo Dot - Choirs of the Eye
10. Black Label Society- The Blessed Hellride


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 Post subject: Re: The Top 10 Metal albums by year:
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I think it has been established that Machine Head should be on the list.


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 Post subject: Re: The Top 10 Metal albums by year:
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1. Sleep - Dopesmoker
2. Enslaved - Below the Lights
3. Kamelot - Epica
4. Drudkh - Forgotten Legends
5. Children of Bodom - Hate Crew Deathroll
6. Lost Horizon - A Flame to the Ground Beneath
7. Dimmu Borgir - Death Cult Armageddon
8. Lamb of God - As the Palaces Burn
9. Black Label Society - Blessed Hellride
10. Machine Head- Through The Ashes Of Empires


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 Post subject: Re: The Top 10 Metal albums by year:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:15 am 
Through the Ashes... has acclaim, popularity, and impact over Blessed Hellride. Choirs of the Eye should be above both because of acclaim, impact, and influence.


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 Post subject: Re: The Top 10 Metal albums by year:
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Ashes was just another Machine Head album that didn't impact anything. Blessed Hellride's breakthrough (along with Hate Crew Deathroll) was the start of guitar solos becoming acceptable in mainstream metal again after a long period of them being frowned upon.

and what exactly did Choirs of the Eye influence?


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 Post subject: Re: The Top 10 Metal albums by year:
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Avant-garde metal. You need to put your personal opinion aside as an editor: you are outnumbered here I think.


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 Post subject: Re: The Top 10 Metal albums by year:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:31 am 
Blessed Hellride wasn't a breakthrough. The collective consensus of it was "Oh, it's another Black Label Society album" while Through the Ashes was more or less universally hailed as the return of Machine Head after their previous two albums flopped. Choirs of the Eye's influence extends beyond avant-garde metal though. It's influence can be heard in Agalloch's work, Opeth's post-Damnation/Deliverance work, and blackgaze.


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 Post subject: Re: The Top 10 Metal albums by year:
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Nesquik wrote:
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Well, I will be posting 1971 soon. Look forward to your feedback.


If it doesn't follow the guidelines that we have set for what is and what is not metal than you are simply going off-topic in the thread. I will delete these posts.


Is my 1970 deleted already? You really are terrified by any kind of difference of opinion, aren't you?


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 Post subject: Re: The Top 10 Metal albums by year:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:31 am 
How do you get that he's terrified? We, as a forum, have already voted on what is and what is not metal. There are very simple guidelines in deciding whether a band is or is not metal on this forum. All you have to do is PM Nesquik or thejew and ask them to make a poll about a certain band and if you really feel like they are metal if you can voice your opinion on ALBUMS that make a band metal, not just a handful of songs. You really are terrified by any kind of difference of opinion, aren't you?


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 Post subject: Re: The Top 10 Metal albums by year:
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I'm actually siding with JRA on the Machine Head thing, though I don't find myself caring enough to make a deal out of it.
In my honest opinion though, we should kick both BLS and MH off and replace it with somehing like Nasum or Blut Aus Nord, or even Pelican or Cult of Luna for their influence in the uprise of Atmosludge. I too can vouch for Kayo Dot


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 Post subject: Re: The Top 10 Metal albums by year:
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joe c wrote:
Blessed Hellride wasn't a breakthrough. The collective consensus of it was "Oh, it's another Black Label Society album" while Through the Ashes was more or less universally hailed as the return of Machine Head after their previous two albums flopped. Choirs of the Eye's influence extends beyond avant-garde metal though. It's influence can be heard in Agalloch's work, Opeth's post-Damnation/Deliverance work, and blackgaze.



Except that "just another BLS album" DID breakthrough. The reason Stillborn is the #1 song on our list is because it got massive radio play and helped break that album through.


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 Post subject: Re: The Top 10 Metal albums by year:
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I don't really think BLS was ever that important to Metal as some may believe, I think it just rode on the tailwind of the Nu-Metal and Metalcore explosions with its Groove sensabilities. You keep on saying how important that album was for BLS, but thats not the point, how important was it to Metal? Cause I don't see it being more important than the other albums I mentioned here above


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 Post subject: Re: The Top 10 Metal albums by year:
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Like I said before, starting in the 90s there was a period where, if you were a mainstream rock band a guitar solo in your song was the most uncool thing you could do. Pantera got away with it, but a) they were the exception to that rule and b) no one dared to criticize anything about them then. Black Label Society along with Children of Bodom and a couple of others; once they broke through, it started to be come ok for guitar solos to appear in metal-core and whatever other forms of metal were the flavor of the day. That's why Blessed Hellride was important to metal. At least I think that has to count for something.


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