Years ago I would never entertain that notion, but I can definitely see it. WGO is still sublime though.

I would agree with that as well, not to take anything away from What's Going On

No it is not. It is prove that he likes to make hyperbolic and provacative statements.

I will unlike Georgi not be diplomatic about this and call for burning at the stake for heresy.

off with his head!

poverty, hunger and war < sex, sex and sex

Dave Grohl is overrated if anything. He seems like a cool guy, but fuck hyperbolic statements saying Meg White is anything more than mediocre, and he's not even a very talented drummer at all, and certainly not a good songwriter (I'm at no position to judge his guitar playing abilities). I thank him for playing some solid drumlines on Songs for the Deaf, but other than that.. meh.

If Dave Grohl wasn't in Nirvana, The Foo Fighters would be just another post-grunge band that everyone hates.

Singing about sex, sex, sex =/= having sex, sex, sex

Singing about poverty, hunger, war > (as in usually more interesting and powerful) singing about yourself having sex, sex, sex

Maybe. But I still argue that Colour and the Shape was a good album, and the debut wasn't bad either, they're not a terribly original band no and their formula has pretty much been unchanged for 15 years, but unlike every other post grunge frontman out there, Grohl is actually charismatic and talented and at least he was a pretty decent songwriter until he got lazy and complacent.

Couldn't it be possible that he isn't being hyperbolic and he really does like her drumming as much as Bonham and Moon?

I'm not hyperbolic when I say I think Neil Young is a better guitarist than Yngwie Malmsteen.

i'm fairly sure it was hyperbolic.


but anyway, i don't get the "foo fighters are average/generic" complaints. in fact, i think they've got a really distinct style. yeah, its still post-grunge, nothing revolutionary about it. but there is something instantly recognizable about the way he writes. you could have some local band cover a Dave Grohl track and i'm pretty sure we'd all know who wrote it even if we had never heard it before. his bigger problem, imo, is that he's sort of settled into that style now, kind of like the Chili Peppers did. he almost sounds like a mellow rip-off of his younger self.


thejew,
i won't pretend to know drums like you. i can't argue with you if you say he's not a great drummer. but what i do know is that when i try to play along with his rhythms, i can't do it. which is not a problem i tend to have with a lot of other drummers. maybe that doesn't make him great or anything, but i notice a difference between him and others when i try to mimic him. that has to be indicative of something unique about how he plays, right? you'd know more why that is, if you've noticed it too. its something about the way he uses the toms that fucks with me. he never seems to get into a nice, easy groove where i can stop paying attention to the main beat and just focus on the fills.

but yeah, this page is exactly why i think he's underrated. the fact that he's seen by so many people as just average amazes me.

one last thing, the "if he wasn't in Nirvana" argument is just an easy way of dismissing him, but one that has no real foundation under it. is there one other comparable situation? i mean, he was the drummer. he had very little creative influence over Nirvana as a whole (maybe their overall sound, but definitely not the songwriting). i doubt anyone in the world expected the drummer from Nirvana to start his own band as the primary songwriter and frontman. for him to actually be successful with it is a credit to him. the idea that it was just given to him because of his association with Nirvana is absurd. if anything, the constant comparisons have actually hurt them.

foo fighters are a band who are trying to remain relevant way beyond their time/ grohl's a cool dude but he just doesnt have it in him to write the anthem he so wants to. plus that foo fighters sound can be confused for countless generic alt rock bands, which doesnt help

I love Grohl's drumming, simple but aggressive, he's an anti technical drummer and we don't have enough drummers like that, not including indie drummers who are anti technical in a bad way.

I love some good technical drumming, Bruford probably is my favorite drummer. But some bands need a Grohl, not a Bruford.

His attitude is very refreshing too.

Rock drummers used to be the party animals, like Moon and Bonham, or maybe they were the humble team player like Ringo, but now drummers tend to be the biggest fucking snobs in the entire music business. Look at fucking Mike Portnoy, he has the distinction of being the biggest enomaniac in Dream Theater.

Dream Theater.