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 Post subject: Re: state your unpopular opinions as facts
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:59 pm 
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one last thing, the "if he wasn't in Nirvana" argument is just an easy way of dismissing him, but one that has no real foundation under it. is there one other comparable situation? i mean, he was the drummer. he had very little creative influence over Nirvana as a whole (maybe their overall sound, but definitely not the songwriting). i doubt anyone in the world expected the drummer from Nirvana to start his own band as the primary songwriter and frontman. for him to actually be successful with it is a credit to him. the idea that it was just given to him because of his association with Nirvana is absurd. if anything, the constant comparisons have actually hurt them.



I wasn't saying he wouldn't have been successful, I was saying that he wouldn't have the same critical acclaim.


my problem with this is that you are basically saying I only like them because Dave was in Nirvana. you see why it bothers me?

i actually never really paid much attention to the Foo Fighters until a couple months ago tbh. i still doubt i will ever listen to a full album of theirs. but i threw their greatest hits on my mp3 player and it was a solid experience.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:17 pm 
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also i never knew the dude from nirvana was the dude in the foo fighters i can definitely see that they're both like the same kind of boring disaffected music that's completely irrelevant to anyone above the age of seventeen with a personality


I'm over 17, love Nirvana and have no personality and I am deeply offended.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:42 pm 
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that's ok i still listen to the offspring i really can't talk


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 Post subject: Re: state your unpopular opinions as facts
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I still listen to Smash from time to time.

I usually don't grow out of something after falling in love with it. I guess I just don't mature, but I'm fine with that, I don't want to become one of those assholes who are like "Oh when I was a young lad I used to enjoy fun and whimsical things but now I am a mature adult and only listen to the finest classical music and jazz, harumphhhhhh."


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 Post subject: Re: state your unpopular opinions as facts
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:27 pm 
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pave wrote:
Adequate Gatsby wrote:
pave wrote:
one last thing, the "if he wasn't in Nirvana" argument is just an easy way of dismissing him, but one that has no real foundation under it. is there one other comparable situation? i mean, he was the drummer. he had very little creative influence over Nirvana as a whole (maybe their overall sound, but definitely not the songwriting). i doubt anyone in the world expected the drummer from Nirvana to start his own band as the primary songwriter and frontman. for him to actually be successful with it is a credit to him. the idea that it was just given to him because of his association with Nirvana is absurd. if anything, the constant comparisons have actually hurt them.



I wasn't saying he wouldn't have been successful, I was saying that he wouldn't have the same critical acclaim.


my problem with this is that you are basically saying I only like them because Dave was in Nirvana. you see why it bothers me?

i actually never really paid much attention to the Foo Fighters until a couple months ago tbh. i still doubt i will ever listen to a full album of theirs. but i threw their greatest hits on my mp3 player and it was a solid experience.


Sorry Pave, I didn't mean to offend.


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 Post subject: Re: state your unpopular opinions as facts
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:37 am 
Wasting Light is one of their best albums, I don't know why everyone is saying they've gotten repetitive "as of late". Now if you guys would have said that in 2007-8 I would have agreed with you. Foo Fighters have the same appeal to rock fans as the National do to indie fans - they both make everyman, no frills music sound great.


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I liked Wasting Light but it really wasn't anything tremendous.


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 Post subject: Re: state your unpopular opinions as facts
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Songs for the Deaf is the best thing Grohl has ever done.


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Songs for the Deaf is the best thing Grohl has ever done.


Love that album.

I consider QOTSA to be the last great hard rock band, and by that I mean just a pure heavy rock band, not some niche genre like sludge metal or buttfuckcore or whatever, just rawk.


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dreamcoil wrote:
plus that foo fighters sound can be confused for countless generic alt rock bands, which doesnt help

I'm pretty baffled by this statement. While I think for the most part the Foo Fighters are just a singles band (except The Colour and Shape, fuck that's a fantastic pop album) and about average, I don't see how they could be "confused with countless generic alt rock bands." In fact I think the complete contrary and that within the pretty bland and uninteresting genre of radio alt rock, I think their style is pretty distinctive. What countless generic bands in particular do you get them mixed up with? While I've heard Creed get mixed up with everything from Pearl Jam to Live to Nickleback, to Default, I've never heard someone listen to The Best of You and go, "Whoa, I love that Hinder song!" David Grohl has a knack for writing great singles, his songs are not just a catchy chorus repeated ad-nauseam over crunchy loud generic power chords that have no melody. He writes truly. well crafted pop songs that have an interesting and catchy verse as well as chorus, and an interesting rhythm and riff to top it off. That is all ignoring the fact that he has one of the most iconic and unique voices in all of alternative rock. I can't say I've ever heard a singer come close to replicating his style.


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 Post subject: Re: state your unpopular opinions as facts
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boo boo wrote:
Cruz wrote:
Songs for the Deaf is the best thing Grohl has ever done.


Love that album.

I consider QOTSA to be the last great hard rock band, and by that I mean just a pure heavy rock band, not some niche genre like sludge metal or buttfuckcore or whatever, just rawk.

seriously

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TVnY7IEMcY[/youtube]
Slaughterhouse came out less than a year ago and is already up there with what QOTSA have done. Not saying Ty Segall is hard rock, but I think saying that QOTSA is the last of the great heavy rock bands is kind of silly.


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 Post subject: Re: state your unpopular opinions as facts
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I don't like FF's new stuff at all, but their 90s stuff was good.

But even at their worst, you're deaf if you can't tell them apart from Hinder. :lol:

I mean most bands even if they're not original, they consist of human beings with their own idiosyncracie, so they still have their own sound to some extent, few bands sound exactly like another band, though there are exceptions, Theory of a Deadman is Nickelback.


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 Post subject: Re: state your unpopular opinions as facts
PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:04 pm 
@chicken sandwich

I think Boo Boo was trying to say they were the last great hard rock band that was popular outside of the internet.


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 Post subject: Re: state your unpopular opinions as facts
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I don't know, Wolfmother has some good stuffs also.


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 Post subject: Re: state your unpopular opinions as facts
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joe c wrote:
@chicken sandwich

I think Boo Boo was trying to say they were the last great hard rock band that was popular outside of the internet.

I agree with that sentiment in that case. Although Songs for the Deaf is admittedly the only QOTSA album that I enjoy (but it's one of my favorite albums ever, top 50 probably).

And fuck no, Wolfmother is everything wrong with music. Rehashing 70s blues rock in an attempt to turn time and regress music back to an era that has since been evolved from. They're fucking terrible.


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