Umm, this is the Music Discussion thread. Take your politics elsewhere please, preferably to the Politics section.

"Passion" is an overrated fucking concept in music. I don't care how passionate you are, if you're just some emo cunt with an acoustic guitar you can fuck off forever. I want music, not an emotional circle jerk.

Of course passion has a place in music, I'm simply saying it's an overrated concept especially when people think it's the be-all end all of musical merit, when music's merit should really be judged by, you know, the actual musical aspects.

I'm sad Fats Domino didn't drown in Katrina

You're such a loathsome fuck.

Of course passion has a place in music, I'm simply saying it's an overrated concept especially when people think it's the be-all end all of musical merit, when music's merit should really be judged by, you know, the actual musical aspects.

oh, the hypocrisy is killing me

I think Bowie actually sounds more emotional in his...later years? Everything after the '90s. That being said, his early '70s output is some of the best rock music ever recorded. Although, Ziggy's appeal is 50% Bowie 50% Ronson ("Moonage Daydream" hoo lawdy). I get what Tudwell is saying, to a certain extent, even though "Five Years" and "Changes" kind of prove him wrong, but Bowie's music isn't about heart-on-the-sleeve passion or whatever. It's about competence, arrangements, songwriting, and most important, it's about David Bowie. There are certain artists where their personality alone (Bowie, PJ Harvey, a lot of hip hop artists, etc) can carry a song, or in some cases an entire album. I guess it just depends on whether you buy into that or not. But what I want you to do Tudzy is to give a close listen to Ziggy. Get high quality mp3s or vinyls or whatever you do and spend some time with it.