Greatest Live Rock Artists

Captain Jack Sparrow · **Joined:** Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:53 pm **Posts:** 98

Bones wrote:

I did read the paragraph. Springsteen could take impact, but not by much. The Who's win in influence is a lot wider, the rest is pretty much dead even.

What influence does The Who have in this regard? They excel at other three criteria but fall very short in influence.

Rickymaivia · **Joined:** Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:33 am **Posts:** 826

Bones wrote:

Hmm, Springsteen vs The Who is interesting:

Reputation: Tie
Consistency: Tie
Impact: Tie/The Who
Influence: The Who (not even close)

Reputation: Tie
Consistency: Springsteen
Impact: Springsteen
Influence: The Who

Imo Springsteen wins two but The Who takes the whole thing thanks to the huge gap in influence.

Captain Jack Sparrow · **Joined:** Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:53 pm **Posts:** 98

D.J. wrote:

Bones wrote:

Hmm, Springsteen vs The Who is interesting:

Reputation: Tie
Consistency: Tie
Impact: Tie/The Who
Influence: The Who (not even close)

Reputation: Tie
Consistency: Springsteen
Impact: Springsteen
Influence: The Who

Imo Springsteen wins two but The Who takes the whole thing thanks to the huge gap in influence.

There's no "huge" gap in influence.

Captain Jack Sparrow · **Joined:** Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:53 pm **Posts:** 98

You need to explain why The Who takes influence.

Rickymaivia · **Joined:** Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:33 am **Posts:** 826

Bones wrote:

How do you justify Springsteen taking impact? He had about 42 years of consistent live performances while The Who had around 46. I'd truly call it a tie considering how both of them remained at such a high level as decades went by.

46 years for The Who is exaggerated, they didn't tour for many years.

Captain Jack Sparrow · **Joined:** Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:53 pm **Posts:** 98

Bones wrote:

They provided mass amounts of feedback, the energy they had while on stage, it was all an inspiration. They were the first band to smash their instruments which was also something that inspired a lot of live rock artists. Their style on stage was just replicated by many bands. Zeppelin and Hendrix are two great live bands I could think of that were inspired by The Who.

You're right about the feedback thing. Hendrix and Clapton switched to Marshalls because of Townshend. But we're talking about a different kind of influence.

Brian · **Joined:** Wed Oct 06, 2010 2:52 pm **Posts:** 4300

Bones wrote:

How do you justify Springsteen taking impact? He had about 42 years of consistent live performances while The Who had around 46. I'd truly call it a tie considering how both of them remained at such a high level as decades went by.

"Impact" is shorthand for "impact of live performances on career". How long each of them played doesn't have much to do with that.

Brian · **Joined:** Wed Oct 06, 2010 2:52 pm **Posts:** 4300

But they had many years in the '80s and '90s when they didn't tour. I don't think it's a consideration anyway. I think consistency is about how consistent an artist was during the years that it toured, regardless of how many or how few years that is.

Captain Jack Sparrow · **Joined:** Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:53 pm **Posts:** 98

The Who's win in influence is not all that big.

ClashWho · **Posted:** Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:05 pm

Captain Jack Sparrow wrote:

The Who's win in influence is not all that big.

Against Springsteen? It's enormous.

ClashWho · **Posted:** Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:06 pm

Captain Jack Sparrow wrote:

Not even close? Influence is exactly the criterion both The Who and Springsteen fall short in.

You have got to be kidding. Just exactly how ignorant are you?

ClashWho · **Posted:** Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:09 pm

Captain Jack Sparrow wrote:

Bones wrote:

I did read the paragraph. Springsteen could take impact, but not by much. The Who's win in influence is a lot wider, the rest is pretty much dead even.

What influence does The Who have in this regard? They excel at other three criteria but fall very short in influence.

Wow. Pretty fucking ignorant.

ClashWho · **Posted:** Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:15 pm

D.J. wrote:

Bones wrote:

Hmm, Springsteen vs The Who is interesting:

Reputation: Tie
Consistency: Tie
Impact: Tie/The Who
Influence: The Who (not even close)

Reputation: Tie
Consistency: Springsteen
Impact: Springsteen
Influence: The Who

Imo Springsteen wins two but The Who takes the whole thing thanks to the huge gap in influence.

I'd score them like this:

Reputation: Tie
Consistency: Slight edge Springsteen
Impact: Springsteen
Influence: Large advantage Who

Could go either way. Springsteen's biggest advantage is in impact of live performance on career, but The Who are big in that area, too. The instrument destruction is what got them noticed, Monterey is what put them on television's Smothers Brothers show, Woodstock is what launched them into the upper echelon of rock stardom, and it's been live performances keeping them in the public eye for the last three decades.

ClashWho · **Posted:** Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:16 pm

Bones wrote:

LOL. I explained their influence when you asked me to. Can you read, or not comprehend English?

What makes you think I was talking to you?

jfauser · **Posted:** Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:22 pm

I don't believe he was thinking that...

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