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 Post subject: Re: 100 Most Technically Skilled Male Rock Vocalists
PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:51 am 
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Yes, LaBrie is awesome on high fifth octave notes...his chest is kinda weak though...

Freddie is definitely up there with them, no one beats him in chest voice projections (Dio comes close, though)...


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Most Technically Skilled Male Rock Vocalists
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I've never heard Freddie as being elite when it comes to power, but that's just me.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Most Technically Skilled Male Rock Vocalists
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Curiosity wrote:
I've never heard Freddie as being elite when it comes to power, but that's just me.

I don't think he's on Dio's or Cornell's level.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Most Technically Skilled Male Rock Vocalists
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You cannot measure volume/projection. Nor is it important too. The voice can only get to a certain volume anyway, and singing at a high volume is actually bad technique.

Opera singers tend to be louder, but thats only because they don't tend to use amplification. What your hearing as power is simply big and full tone, which is developed by applying resonance


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Yousha wrote:
Wanted Dead Or Alive wrote:
Because it would be a bit unfair not to reward singer like Cornell, Plant, Bonnet, Mercury over guys like Jeff Buckley, Perry, Stevie Wonder who all have awesome but not so powerful voices. Whenever it's too close, we'll tie it...


:what?:

Wonder has incredible power, his blended belts are really good and very well projected....even Buckley has good projection, lacks greatly in resonance...


I read that as "his blinded belts." :oops:


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Most Technically Skilled Male Rock Vocalists
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That ain't right...

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 Post subject: Re: 100 Most Technically Skilled Male Rock Vocalists
PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:44 pm 
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Racist.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Most Technically Skilled Male Rock Vocalists
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Time for the "why can't Ray Charles or Stevie Wonder read?" joke.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Most Technically Skilled Male Rock Vocalists
PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 8:49 pm 
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Jimmy Gneeco should be a tad bit higher


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Most Technically Skilled Male Rock Vocalists
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Breath Support - Tie
Consistency - Khan
Diction - Tie
Endurance - Khan

Switching - Khan
Runs - Khan
Blending - Gnecco
Pitch - Tie
Vibrato - Khan
Volume Control - Khan

Projection - Gnecco
Resonance - Gnecco
Use Of Range - Khan/Tie
Sustain - Gnecco

Tech vers. - Khan
Tonal vers. - Gnecco
Stylistic vers. - Gnecco


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Most Technically Skilled Male Rock Vocalists
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I think Gnecco is fine where he is, or just a bit higher than he should be... I don't think he is as good as Roy Khan and I'm not sure he should be above Kennedy.

Edit: Sherick, Khan most certanly takes resonance...


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Most Technically Skilled Male Rock Vocalists
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lobones wrote:
Jimmy Gneeco should be a tad bit higher


Over who? Kennedy should be above Gnecco too imo.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Most Technically Skilled Male Rock Vocalists
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:32 am 
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Agreed. Kennedy is a more skilled singer than Gnecco, no doubt, imo.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Most Technically Skilled Male Rock Vocalists
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:41 am 
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My changes in bold.

Sherick wrote:
Breath Support - Tie
Consistency - Khan
Diction - Tie
Endurance - Gnecco (Gnecco puts his voice through hell and almost always still sounds great. Khan almost always sounds great too, but his voice doesn't have to "endure" nearly as much)

Switching - Gnecco (Much, much more frequent and almost always really well executed. Listen to Drowning and Dizzy.)
Runs - Khan
Blending - Gnecco
Pitch - Tie
Vibrato - Khan
Volume Control - Khan

Projection - Gnecco
Resonance - Khan by quite a bit
Use Of Range - Khan/Tie
Sustain - Gnecco

Tech vers. - Khan
Tonal vers. - Tie
Stylistic vers - Gnecco
(Neither are very versatile.)


Very close, but I think Khan takes this. Within his tessitura, Khan has insane control. Gnecco pushes his voice to the limit far more often and uses his mixed voice far better, but I don't think he has quite the same overall control over his voice as Khan.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Most Technically Skilled Male Rock Vocalists
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Endurance: Khan has been performing a fair bit longer, and always sounds great live, though he isn't singing as high nowadays, so a tie is probably in order.

Switching: Not that it matters, but Khan is in the top 10. His switches to head and falsetto are seamless and sometimes really difficult to pull off (Don't You Cry, Epilogue, Lunar Sanctum, the live version of Nights of Arabia)


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