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 Post subject: Re: 100 Most Technically Skilled Male Rock Vocalists
PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:17 pm 
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yeah that looks about right....whoa at Phelps at 17, but guess he deserves it...

didnt we decide on putting Erik Gronwall just behind Jovi since they were pretty level ...


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Most Technically Skilled Male Rock Vocalists
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Yeah, we did...30-40 range hasn't been updated.

Other than his addition...anything else that could be changed?


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Most Technically Skilled Male Rock Vocalists
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yeah, Tate > Kiske :tongue:


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Most Technically Skilled Male Rock Vocalists
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I think it's time Bonnet got a boost.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Most Technically Skilled Male Rock Vocalists
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Break it down between your 2 faves Curio, I'd like to see what you do with him and Axl.....


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Most Technically Skilled Male Rock Vocalists
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Yousha wrote:
yeah, Tate > Kiske :tongue:

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 Post subject: Re: 100 Most Technically Skilled Male Rock Vocalists
PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:28 pm 
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I'm increasingly less intterested in the rankings but anyway:

Breath Support - Bonnet
Consistency - Tie
Diction - Tie
Endurance - Bonnet

Switching - Axl
Runs - Axl
Blending - Bonnet
Pitch - Axl
Vibrato - Tie
Volume Control - Tie

Projection - Tie
Resonance - Bonnet
Use Of Range - Axl
Sustain - Tie

Tech vers. - Bonnet
Tonal vers. - Tie
Stylistic vers. - Tie

I'd give this to Bonnet (slightly)


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Most Technically Skilled Male Rock Vocalists
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Kiske > Tate and Bonnet can beat Axl but that's the furthest he could go I think...


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Most Technically Skilled Male Rock Vocalists
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Hm, I think Axl has better consistency and tonal versatility.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Most Technically Skilled Male Rock Vocalists
PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:29 am 
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I dunno... Bonnet's tonal versatility is pretty insane as well... just a few examples

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZsr97FntUo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhqgatKz ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC5n4GgA1WY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE6KENoD ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XII8Q9IO3ko
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6tfIYnrXxQ

Consistency I'd tie. Lower chest goes to Axl, upper to Bonnet. Falsetto/heard are both tied.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Most Technically Skilled Male Rock Vocalists
PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:40 am 
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Yeah but Axl is better overall in the registers.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Most Technically Skilled Male Rock Vocalists
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My take:

Curiosity wrote:
I'm increasingly less intterested in the rankings but anyway:

Breath Support - Bonnet
Consistency - Tie (This sounds right to me Sherick)
Diction - Tie
Endurance - Bonnet

Switching - Axl
Runs - Tie (Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow? Graham was capable of doing very good runs)
Blending - Bonnet
Pitch - Axl
Vibrato - Tie
Volume Control - Tie (None very good here :lol: )

Projection - Bonnet (Sure Axl is great, but he can't win this one)
Resonance - Bonnet
Use Of Range - Axl
Sustain - Axl (IRS is enougg)

Tech vers. - Bonnet
Tonal vers. - Bonnet
Stylistic vers. - Bonnet (Is this really a question, Axl has great tonal and technical versatility, stylistic, not so much)

I'd give this to Bonnet (slightly)


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Most Technically Skilled Male Rock Vocalists
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Axl not good at volume control? If The World, Street of Dreams?


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Most Technically Skilled Male Rock Vocalists
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Anyway, I agree Bonnet takes this slightly overall, so maybe Bonnet/Sammet?

Breath Support - Bonnet
Consistency - Bonnet
Diction - Tie
Endurance - Bonnet

Switching - Sammet
Runs - Bonnet
Blending - Bonnet
Pitch - Sammet
Vibrato - Sammet
Volume Control - Tie

Projection - Bonnet
Resonance - Bonnet
Use Of Range - Bonnet
Sustain - Bonnet

Tech vers. - Bonnet
Tonal vers. - Bonnet
Stylistic vers. - Bonnet


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Most Technically Skilled Male Rock Vocalists
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Curiosity wrote:
Anyway, I agree Bonnet takes this slightly overall, so maybe Bonnet/Sammet?

Breath Support - Tie (At least...Bonnet often stuggled with high chest passages live, Sammet has sung line way up into fifth octave which are usually longer than Bonnet's and probably more full sounding...What Kind Of Love is the best example)
Consistency - Bonnet
Diction - Sammet (While Bonnet is sometimes muddy when he enters his mixed voice, although he's still very good, Sammet has by far the best diction out of non-english speaking singers and he is very clear even in the fifth octave)
Endurance - Bonnet (This seems a bit unfair, Bonnet gets it just because he is older...Sammet has been singing for 15 years and he hardly lost a thing)

Switching - Sammet
Runs - Tie (I can give examples)
Blending - Bonnet
Pitch - Sammet
Vibrato - Sammet
Volume Control - Sammet (Inside B4..amazing volume control)

Projection - Bonnet
Resonance - Tie
Use Of Range - Tie (E2-A5 in full and pretty consistent throughout his whole range)
Sustain - Sammet (Sustained notes up to A5 and has no problem sustaining them live regularly)

Tech vers. - Tie
Tonal vers. - Bonnet
Stylistic vers. - Bonnet


Sammet gets it...
But the whole Sammet/Allen/Bonnet trio could get a boost...


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