I think it's pretty clear Moyes is a mid-table coach and needs to go. He inherited a title winning side, with a stable group of players and decent list of transfers. When I watch this United side they look like they are playing Real Madrid in Europe when they face lesser opposition. He's out of his depth.

Hold your horses mate. He's only 5 games in.

Fergie didn't win a trophy for 3 years.

Fergie was already an established coach that found success at Aberdeen. His job was to rebuild the entire squad at Man Utd, which is why he was given more time. Moyes already has the team and players he needs.

You guys are right it's still early, but I think he is out of his depth. He has no European experience to speak of and a poor record in big games. He's not doing himself any favors right now.

well it took all of 8 minutes for this game to become background noise. is this the first game messi and neymar have netted?

Indeed, though both goals were pretty lol. Weak match really, oh god the defense is bad. And messi is missing sitters, that's the third match this season already I think where he's found it hard to put them away. I really think Neymar should be allowed to go through the middle sometimes, the dude's potential is incredible, and even though he's really doing good, rotating messi and neymar isn't that bad an option, especially cause pedro and alexis are workhorses on the wing.

Wait til you guys are down a goal or two and Ranieri makes a defensive substitution.

The side he inherited was third or 4th strongest in the league IMO.

Based on what? They won the league with an 11 point gap betweens second place.

He's succeeding the greatest manager of all time and has to impose his own style. Of course it's going to be difficult.

Ferguson manufactured a lot points.

It was still the best squad in the league though.

Why?
Winning doesn't make the squad/list the strongest in player quality.
Manchester United were the best performing team but their list is not that strong compared to city and Chelsea.

City's is close, but the squad last year was certainly better than Chelsea's. Buying the world's supply of CAMs doesn't change that for me.

Player by player Chelsea's starting 11 was better in every position bar striker.