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corrections · **Joined:** Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:11 pm **Posts:** 27988

Bones wrote:

corrections wrote:

Bones wrote:

This was such a waste of such a good defensive and special teams performance. Bad call in the end by Dennis Allen too to go for it on 4th and short when its 24-14 with 3 minutes left. If he kicked for 3, we could of played a good defensive series and then maybe come back, but he stupidly went for it.

Miami does have a good D. It'll be a good game indeed.

Are you kidding? That's actually the right call pretty much 100% of the time on 4th and short. You need two scores and you're not going to get that close that often. If you think you have a good chance of converting you go for it.

Why not kick the field goal and then get the touchdown and go to overtime? That would of been the safer call.

If by safer you mean less likely to have ignorant media and fans call you out for making a decision then yes. If by safer you mean more likely to result in victory then no.

corrections · **Joined:** Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:11 pm **Posts:** 27988

Bones wrote:

Eric J wrote:

Because it's easier to get in field goal range late in the game than it is to score a touchdown.

I understand this but the point is that you need a touchdown and a field goal to tie it up. Does it really matter which order?

YES!

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/974 ... cos-week-4

Read the discussion under the 10-Point Play subheading

zephead8 · **Posted:** Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:50 am

vince wilfork tore his achilles tendon. probably the most imortant player on the team not named Brady. :ugh:

kosherrock · **Joined:** Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:35 pm **Posts:** 3187

Is the problem Haley or Ben? Definitely seeing that ben's style doesn't happen without great receivers and a line

corrections · **Joined:** Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:11 pm **Posts:** 27988

kosherrock wrote:

Is the problem Haley or Ben? Definitely seeing that ben's style doesn't happen without great receivers and a line

Well he's been without a line for the past 3 to 4 years so he can play without a line. Receivers he needs more. Mainly I think it's Haley being terrible.

ignatious · **Posted:** Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:22 am

Bones wrote:

Eric J wrote:

Because it's easier to get in field goal range late in the game than it is to score a touchdown.

I understand this but the point is that you need a touchdown and a field goal to tie it up. Does it really matter which order?

what do you think the chances of a touchdown are given you're at the 10 yard line? compare that to P(touchdown) receiving at your 20.

corrections · **Joined:** Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:11 pm **Posts:** 27988

ignatious wrote:

Bones wrote:

Eric J wrote:

Because it's easier to get in field goal range late in the game than it is to score a touchdown.

I understand this but the point is that you need a touchdown and a field goal to tie it up. Does it really matter which order?

what do you think the chances of a touchdown are given you're at the 10 yard line? compare that to P(touchdown) receiving at your 20.

Verses probability of getting in field goal range from your 20 (and also having the small chance to win by scoring the TD).

kosherrock · **Joined:** Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:35 pm **Posts:** 3187

corrections wrote:

kosherrock wrote:

Is the problem Haley or Ben? Definitely seeing that ben's style doesn't happen without great receivers and a line

Well he's been without a line for the past 3 to 4 years so he can play without a line. Receivers he needs more. Mainly I think it's Haley being terrible.

i think haley is part of the problem, but when arians was there (and wallace, ward, burress, etc.) a lot of plays were made outside of design. i don't think ben is the best out there at finding the open man on design.

monga18 · **Posted:** Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:57 pm

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/114925/miami-dolphins-new-2013-helmet-replaces-radical-art-old-logo

corrections · **Joined:** Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:11 pm **Posts:** 27988

kosherrock wrote:

corrections wrote:

kosherrock wrote:

Is the problem Haley or Ben? Definitely seeing that ben's style doesn't happen without great receivers and a line

Well he's been without a line for the past 3 to 4 years so he can play without a line. Receivers he needs more. Mainly I think it's Haley being terrible.

i think haley is part of the problem, but when arians was there (and wallace, ward, burress, etc.) a lot of plays were made outside of design. i don't think ben is the best out there at finding the open man on design.

This is correct. What I meant is his receivers are not as good now so that hurts him.

Eric J · **Joined:** Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:07 am **Posts:** 7010

He asked his mom and she said it was OK... for some reason I sincerely think that makes it OK.

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Eric J · **Joined:** Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:07 am **Posts:** 7010

Bears' D finally played great but goddammit that 4th quarter was so frustrating. Two veterans (Earl Bennet and Briggs) just fucking it up for the rest of the team (Bennet dropped a great ball on 4th and 2, Briggs bit on Brees' hard count on 4th and 1 to extend a drive a couple more minutes). Bears didn't necessarily "deserve" to win, but if those two do their jobs on those plays, the game's pretty well in reach.

Good news is that Alshon Jeffrey is a beast; today marked the first day a Bears receiver ever had 200 yards.

joe c · **Posted:** Sun Oct 06, 2013 11:51 pm

Nearly everybody in my fantasy league is starting injured players on players on byes this week. :\

corrections · **Joined:** Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:11 pm **Posts:** 27988

joe c wrote:

Nearly everybody in my fantasy league is starting injured players on players on byes this week. :\

Not you and not me though. My opponent sure made my matchup easier though. Wouldn't have mattered as he had only one bench player available to start and two holes and I'm still beating him like a rented mule before Gonzales and Julio Jones play. Don't think Eric J. and Raul screwed it up either.

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