Cutler and Stafford are #1 and #2, don't know which order. Then probably Flacco and Rodgers (what's up NFC North). RGIII might be in that group too.

Kapernick has a really live arm. Rodgers you've got a bit overrated (although he's got the best on the run arm). RG III is in the group.

They aren't in the top class though

He's shut down every receiver he has faced this year basically. Torrey Smith had a fair amount of receptions against him (7 for 85), and Green had 7 receptions (for around 50 yards) in their first matchup. Calvin Johnson put up a pathetic 3 catches for 15 yards against him, Green this week also did nothing, and none of the lesser receivers he's been up against have fared much better. Jordy Nelson had a TD against him but only 41 yards on his 5 catches.

Yeah sure wish I had started Harry Douglas in his stead (but he's fucking Harry Douglas). Indeed in both my leagues I made a mistake in not starting Douglas. And I will probably lose both matchups because of it (unless Manning torches KC through medium of Eric Decker and Julius Thomas).

It's pretty interesting now. Unless Decker goes off I like my chances.

Flacco can throw 70+ with a flick of his wrist

Wasn't it Jeff George who threw from one field goal post and put it through the uprights on the opposite end of the field?

Anyway, do any of you think that the Bears will ultimately go with McCown? If it were up to me I'd definitely stick with Culter because he's four years younger than McCown.

They won't go with McCown. He's been amazing but not better than Cutler. The turnover's still need to be cut back (it looks like they had been in recent weeks) and he needs to get the ball out quicker, but there's things he can do that McCown couldn't dream of doing. Furthermore they need to find out rather quickly if Cutler's a franchise QB. In Chicago there seems to be uncertainty over whether or not Trestman wants Cutler to be his QB long-term. Word is that when he was hired he asked Emery to stop negotiating with Cutler for an extension until after the season. Trestman likes guys who protect the ball and get the ball out quickly and accurately, all things Cutler struggles with from time to time. With the system and the supporting cast being so good, the idea is you don't need a guy with Cutler's physical skills so much as a guy you can mold mentally. The last few years Bears fans have been saying we're pro-Cutler because we have to be. That doesn't seem true anymore. Most people seem to think they'll give Cutler the franchise tag and draft a quarterback in the second round. I wish they'd just decide after the season so we don't have to go through another "Will Cutler make the leap?" seasons.

You really need to slow down on the drinking.

my goodness, what an ending

Indeed. What was the reasoning for the no call on the last play? I was in a pizza place and the sound was off. Was it deemed uncatchable?

I think that basically had to be the reasoning. Though I can't say I completely understand or agree with it unless there's some super-specific rules regarding these types of situations. It was uncatchable, but it was uncatchable because gronk was held. There were a few good angles which showed gronk pivoting and leaning forward right as the ball is entering the interceptor's chest.

though one thing I did miss: how much time was left on the clock when the ball was intercepted? If there was enough time, then it's definitely a shit call considering all gronk would have had to do it tip it/prevent the interception and then it's still 3rd or 4th down (can't remember which). If that was a last second play, then the ruling is a little more subjective. But I think "very hard catch" still == "catchable".

There was :03 left when the play started so it was the last play. Refs are usually hesitant to interfere on last second plays, they didn't want to call a shadow penalty that gave the Pats an extra play. If you're 50/50 it's safer to just let what the players did decide it. I think if the flag was thrown they should have called it though (unless I'm missing something).

Edit: Maybe it was uncatchable because the Panthers player would have been in front of it anyway?