it's the fact that the ball was going in and uruguay ends up benefitting from suarez breaking the rule. it's not like PI unless you level the receiver in the end zone before the ball arrives. it's not like a deliberate foul because you don't know if the player will make the basket, and a score in soccer is much more valuable then a score in basketball so the stakes aren't comparable at all. i mean i don't think suarez was like immoral but it's still bullshit and i wouldn't call it the "right play". i posted a couple analogies in a post above. goaltending rules are analogous more than types of fouls. your situations would be analogous to a player with a breakaway getting dragged down from behind by his shirt or something as he's about to take a shot one on one with the goalie. you don't know if he'd make the shot, but you still prevent it from ever occurring. plus, deliberate fouls in basketball are just part of the game's strategy. lunging to punch a ball out of the net in soccer is not part of the game. it's relative and subjective, but unless you think defenders in general should always do that as like a de facto way to defend sure goals and it should be incorporated into standard soccer strategy, then it's not analogous at all.

lost my shit

which is worse? an intentional goal stopping handball inside the box or an intentional dive inside the box?


or rainforest deforestation?

Crazy, passionate and mesmerising.
For me Suarez is the most entertaining player in the game by far.

I have huge respect for responsible role model type players like beckham, but I can't help but love the barrel of crazy that is Suarez.

Almost everything in soccer is cheating.
Defenders foul players on purpose at set pieces, people lay tackles to prevent a breakaway, people commit red card offences all the time.

Diving annoys me more because its piss weak, but its just another of many ways players cheat to get a competitive advantage.

That's rewarded with 6 points in football. But I've got your analogy. A horse collar tackle on an opponent breaking in the clear stopping a TD. Dangerous play and obvious foul but there is a net gain. Same thing with fouling a guy to prevent him from scoring. Same thing with hauling down a player on a breakaway in hockey.

Then use my hauling down a guy about to scored with an illegal play in football (horsecollar being the most common).

a horsecollar can get you ejected.

It can (though usually doesn't) but so does the handball in that circumstance.

a horse-collar tackle, anywhere on the field, can get you ejected, even if your side has not a chance in hell of winning. it is like a head butt, but worse, i suspect. the line of scrimmage being the exception.

I hate being at work during the games. Updating the gamecast every few minutes is nerve wracking.

Don't worry, mate. They're controlling the game playing exactly like Italy usually play aka awfully.

and you think that's the right thing to do?

Apparently he's a really nice guy off the pitch. Of course that doesn't stop me from thinking he's a vile, cheating, show-off cunt, or from hoping he gets hobbled in Uruguay's next game before they crash out of the World Cup having conceded 3 beautifully taken Pirlo free kicks. I detest few players more than Suarez.