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 Post subject: Re: 250+ Greatest Rock Guitarists
PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 1:20 pm 
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BTW classic rock artists like The Rolling Stones and Dylan are crazy for playing with Jack White.

Slash is a jerk for saying that he is the best guitarist right now.

But the worst of them are Page and The Edge for doing a guitar documentary with him. What the hell were they thinking?


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 Post subject: Re: 250+ Greatest Rock Guitarists
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Looks like Echoes has learned sarcasm from boo boo.


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 Post subject: Re: 250+ Greatest Rock Guitarists
PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 5:12 pm 
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Echoes wrote:
BTW classic rock artists like The Rolling Stones and Dylan are crazy for playing with Jack White.

Slash is a jerk for saying that he is the best guitarist right now.

But the worst of them are Page and The Edge for doing a guitar documentary with him. What the hell were they thinking?


... maybe this .... Take care

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0xHTszwbWk


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 Post subject: Re: 250+ Greatest Rock Guitarists
PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:51 pm 
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Yngtchie Blacksteen wrote:
Looks like Echoes has learned sarcasm from boo boo.


I don´t know if it´s sarcasm any more.


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 Post subject: Re: 250+ Greatest Rock Guitarists
PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:54 pm 
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gminer wrote:
Echoes wrote:
BTW classic rock artists like The Rolling Stones and Dylan are crazy for playing with Jack White.

Slash is a jerk for saying that he is the best guitarist right now.

But the worst of them are Page and The Edge for doing a guitar documentary with him. What the hell were they thinking?


... maybe this .... Take care

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0xHTszwbWk


That is a White Stripe intro:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLESpHrtvxs

:surprised:


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 Post subject: Re: 250+ Greatest Rock Guitarists
PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:00 pm 
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Classic Rock Junkie wrote:
Being the best of your generation doesn't mean much, nor warrant a top 10 spot. If everyone in your generation can play one guitar string, only one, and make it sound shitty, and you can play a chord, that doesn't warrant you a top 10 greatest of all time spot. Not only that, neither of them are the 'best' guitarists of their generation. Eddie Van Halen not only had talent and skill, he, like Hendrix, revolutionized how guitar was played, pushed it's limits, and redefined it, along with doing some of the best guitar performances of all time. Jack White and Cobain have brought nothing new to guitar playing (like Hendrix' use of wah wah and Eddie's unique tapping), have not invented any new style (maybe Kurt, but you can find his style derived from a combination of metal and early 80's punk, pretty much fused two old idea into a new, but not unique, style, Jack has done nothing), and unlike EVH and Hendrix who were both very skilled, Kurt and White both suck at guitar, you can take lessons and practice for a month and you'll be better than both of them, I'm not even joking here.

Also, White has about no influence on the guitar world (STRICTLY guitar world), and Kurt had little influence on actual guitar playing as well (Nirvana the band is very influential, and kurt as a figure for contributing to grundge, but his contributions to guitar playing and sound are almost null).


Clapton was the first one to use a wah wah:

When it came to pre-Jimi guitar heroes, Clapton was, well, God. Hell, when Chas Chandler told Hendrix he wanted to take him back to the U.K. and record him, the first thing Hendrix asked was, “Can you introduce me to Eric Clapton?” But by the time Clapton and Cream were to record their highly anticipated second album, Disraeli Gears, Hendrix had changed the playing field immensely—so E.C. needed to bring it. With engineer Tom Dowd (Aretha Franklin, Otis Redding) and producer Felix Pappalardi at the mixing desk, Cream were enjoying an embarrassment of riches for an English rock group—they got to go to America and record on an 8-track machine. Cream also brought their amps across the pond–big, bad 100-watt JTM Marshalls—although photos from the sessions suggest there were some small Fender combos used as well. Upon arriving in New York, the band holed up in Atlantic Studios and began recording a new tune of Clapton’s (with lyrics by Australian artist Martin Sharp), “Tales of Brave Ulysses.” During a break from tracking, Clapton hit Manny’s on 48th Street and purchased a Vox wah-wah. The rest, as they say, is history, as “Tales” is the tune that placed the wah in the collective brain of guitarists everywhere—especially Hendrix, who says that tune was the first time he heard the effect.

http://www.guitarplayer.com/article/the ... 2007/26852


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 Post subject: Re: 250+ Greatest Rock Guitarists
PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:01 pm 
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He didn't say Hendrix was the first to use a wah-wah.


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 Post subject: Re: 250+ Greatest Rock Guitarists
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Nor does that quote prove that Clapton was the first to use a wah wah pedal.


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 Post subject: Re: 250+ Greatest Rock Guitarists
PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:10 pm 
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Classic Rock Junkie wrote:
rock and roll hall of fame is completely subjective an the people are retards because Yes is a better and more influential band than 95% of the bands in there and has yet to be nominated, and btw, there are like 5 heavy metal bands in there, and the fact that Metallica is in there above some other makes no sense, you should know that, since almost everyone knows they're full of shit.


As of today there are 2: Black Sabbath and Metallica. Alice Copper will be the 3rd. Glen Buxton will be inducted as part of his band (maybe that could be a reason for moving him up?)


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 Post subject: Re: 250+ Greatest Rock Guitarists
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Echoes wrote:
Clapton was the first one to use a wah wah
and chet atkins preceded even clapton by several years :!:


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 Post subject: Re: 250+ Greatest Rock Guitarists
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George wrote:
Echoes wrote:
Clapton was the first one to use a wah wah
and chet atkins preceded even clapton by several years :!:


Really??????????????????????????


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 Post subject: Re: 250+ Greatest Rock Guitarists
PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:19 pm 
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BTW, there is a new Hendrix Anthology:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/album ... e-20101116


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 Post subject: Re: 250+ Greatest Rock Guitarists
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ya, really... zappa did too


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 Post subject: Re: 250+ Greatest Rock Guitarists
PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:28 pm 
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In which songs?


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 Post subject: Re: 250+ Greatest Rock Guitarists
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for atkins, check out "boo boo stick beat", and also check out del casher's stuff starting in the mid 60s. check out clips #4 and 5 here: http://www.delcasher.com/music.html

for zappa, i only know wah featured on recordings like "willie the pimp", "burned weeny sandwich", etc... but i've also read in several sources now about his wah experimentation in the mid-60s, live in new york clubs.


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