Only notable changes I'd make are:

Palmer > Hoyer
Dalton > Noodle Arm Alex Smith, and both could possibly move into the above average category.
Eli Manning is in the right category, but should be below every other guy in that category. He's certainly worse than Cutler and Stafford.

Brady's placement is hard to say. The way he's playing now and the way he played most of last year, he's not deserving of a top 5 spot. But not having Brady top 5 in the league seems wrong. Plus his failures are likely a result of his garbage receivers and garbage O-line.

Also who the fuck is Stephen Hill... isn't he a Jets receiver? Did you mean Shaun Hill?...

You omitted Mike Glennon as well, not that he really matters.

Brady started having a lot of problems with accuracy last year. This year they've been compounded by the horrible offense around him, but he's still been off on a lot of throws and a lot of bad plays have been his fault. Being accurate under pressure is part of being a QB, and he's horrible at it.

I would probably put Luck at #5 and move Wilson ahead of Big Ben. Foles I would put down after Newton because he's not reliably accurate and is a little bitch in the pocket. I can't think of one QB who is more a product of his system. Also Flacco>Kaep.

Whoa. Nothing non professional here

Agreed with Brady, but nah Ryan > Luck.

I wonder what Andrew Luck would do in the Coryell with two freaks like Jones and White

I'm doubting Andrew Luck could've been as efficient as Ryan was last year, when he threw ~4,700 yards with no Jones and a one-legged White. Although Luck is having a tremendous season thus far.

Luck was basically already as efficient as Ryan last year, qb rating and Y/A was almost the same, int% was better. And this is without Reggie Wayne and Dwayne Allen for most of the season. That meanns T.Y. Hilton was his top receiver, compared to Julio Jones. Oh and he's just now in his third/age 25 season; take a look at the jump Ryan made at this point in his career, and consider that Luck is already better than Ryan was at this age.

Crx, where would you put rg3 on that list?

To my knowledge we were ranking QBs based on what they've actually done on the field and are doing on the field, not potential. Yeah, Luck will surpass Ryan especially with the upwards trajectory his career is taking. But Ryan is the better QB right now (unless Luck sustains this unreal pace that he's currently playing it, which is unlikely).

Also, no Dwayne Allen isn't really that big of a loss... he's a pretty average tight end. Julio + a Gimped and Useless White is a much bigger loss than a 37 year old Reggie Wayne and an average TE.

Oh God no. On Crx's list I would have him either right behind Tannehill, or right in front of Cousins. And that's even potentially generous. Never in his life was RGIII asked to make more than one read on a given play before last season, and last season he was terrible. I assume if he hadn't gotten hurt he'd be better this season, but given Gruden's apparent joy that he got hurt, I'm not so sure that's true. He's like a less athletic (because of injuries) version of a young Mike Vick, or a less smart version of an old Mike Vick, and neither of those options are gonna win many games.

The difficulty grading Griffin is that he had a memorable rookie season that was never gonna be repeatable, in terms of how he accomplished his success. Then we don't really know how much of last year was him being injured, or him just not being good without the zone-read working to perfection anymore. He only got to play one game this year but he wasn't very good at all, and most reports said he was struggling a lot in camp.

Kaep maintained his good TD/INT ratio last year, and if you take away the Bears game he's done the same this year. The running game and O-line are both among the best in the league but the same could be said for Wilson. I've also seen him play extremely well in the clutch and has shown the potential to consistently read through his progressions. I agree Kaep's not very much above average, which is why I said Flacco>Kaep, but RGIII hasn't shown the ability to "process information quickly," which according to Bill Walsh is 95% of the position, and historically speaking no one who never had to do it in college ever mastered it in the NFL.

Maybe you can't rank Luck ahead of him yet, but I think Luck's a better quarterback at this point.

This would actually bad a QBs statistics more than anything; you spend more time throwing to catch up, often against vanilla defenses. Pressure disrupts a QB more than anything, and how similar their stats are with that sack differential says a lot of amazing things about Luck. The dude's just a cyborg.

*meant "pad," not "bad a QB's stats..."

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