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The Dark Knight Rises is in the top 250 at all? Fucking puke


It's in the top motherfucking 60, Pete. Fucking puke, indeed.



Look at what it's fucking above, Citizen Kane, Princess Mononoke, Taxi Driver, To Kill A Mockingbird, 2001, Metropolis, Blade Runner, Network, what the bloody fuck?

A movie with THIS in it

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is the 60th greatest movie of all time, better than Citizen Kane, CAN'T YOU TELL?

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Ed Wood could compose shots better than Christopher Nolan can.


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The first comedy film ever made?

Actually that film was supposed to be a metaphor for boo boo being trolled by Rudy (coz boo boo normally trolls people you know the troll trolled lol joke explanation)


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PBR Streetgang wrote:
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PBR Streetgang wrote:
Regarding some posts on the previous page about Aliens: it's not that good and Alien 3 is the only sequel that is also a great movie in its own right. The bluray of the Assembly Cut or whatever proved this to me. Fucked up that Fincher wanted CGI for this - a little too early in the game if you ask me - but other than that I think Alien Cubed is fucking awesome.


The problem with Alien³ is the story. Hicks and Newt survive Aliens only to die in the first five minutes of the sequel? And then they even kill off Ripley, one of the greatest heroines in the history of film.


Since the story of Aliens for me is little more than evil corporation + stupid marines going in space and using the xenomorphs as targets for their bigass guns, I think the story of Alien³ has way more substance. The characters are more human and complex, the visual style (both in art direction as cinematography) appeals to me way more, it has some of the most awesome special effects costume and make-up I have ever seen and what's more, Fincher had the balls to kill off his heroine.


Killing her off at the time he did is fine. Killing off the other two early in the movie is just silly though.


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Sleeping Beauty

For all the complaining about the two leads not being that interesting, they're not even the focus of the story, it's all the other characters that have everything at stake and make the film so entertaining and interesting, the fairies are great, the two kings while having maybe a little too much screentime are fun too, but yeah the main reason this film is so remembered is Maleficent, even though there isn't much to her character and her motivation is something so petty as being pissed off over not getting a party invitation, but it doesn't matter, she is plain and simply the coolest Disney villian of them all, her design, the beautiful way she's animated, that voice, and of course that final dragon form, that battle scene is one of the most epic and exciting scenes in any Disney film, it's just a shame it's so damn brief, but the film overall is just fucking gorgeous to look like, Eywind Earle's background art especially, and such a bold color pallette compared to the earlier Disney movies, it's also probably the first Disney fairy tale that actually captures the look of a beautiful fairy tale illustration. It's not one of the strongest Disney films in terms of story, but aesthetically it's one of their greatest achievements, and it absolutely holds up for it's visuals. It's one of my favorites.

Oh and that Maleficent movie looks like a fucking unwatchable piece of shit and seriously fuck anyone who thinks that shit was at all neccessary, it's the kind of garbage weeaboos on Deviantart come up with to "improve" the original story only to turn it into cliche anime fanfiction bullshit, fuck this obsession with giving everyone a tragic backstory, that isn't what makes good characers, Maleficent didn't need a fucking backstory to be a great villian when she was already a great fucking villian, some villians are evil just for the fuck of it and goddammit that's not a problem that needs fixing. FUCK that movie.


Music is really, really good in the original too.


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ClashWho wrote:
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The Dark Knight Rises is in the top 250 at all? Fucking puke


It's in the top motherfucking 60, Pete. Fucking puke, indeed.


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Look at what it's fucking above, Citizen Kane, Princess Mononoke, Taxi Driver, To Kill A Mockingbird, 2001, Metropolis, Blade Runner, Network, what the bloody fuck?


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even as a nolan fan i'm appalled.


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boo boo wrote:
ClashWho wrote:
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The Dark Knight Rises is in the top 250 at all? Fucking puke


It's in the top motherfucking 60, Pete. Fucking puke, indeed.



Look at what it's fucking above, Citizen Kane, Princess Mononoke, Taxi Driver, To Kill A Mockingbird, 2001, Metropolis, Blade Runner, Network, what the bloody fuck?

A movie with THIS in it

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Scott Foundas wrote:

http://www.filmcomment.com/blog/foundas ... ght-rises/

"In their look and feel, [Nolan's] Batman films have all harked back to an earlier, less attention-deficient cinematic era, the exotic foreign vistas and gang-infested city streets of Batman Begins alternately calling to mind David Lean and the Warner Brothers crime dramas of the Forties and Fifties, The Dark Knight invoking The Naked City and The French Connection in its sense of Gotham as urban jungle. In The Dark Knight Rises, Nolan pulls off an even more impressive feat—a long, elaborate set piece consuming nearly the entire second half of this three-hour movie, that begins with a child singing “The Star-Spangled Banner,” ends with a bomb literally bursting in air and, in between, stirs and moves us in ways movies (superhero or otherwise) rarely do. It is, I think, one of the great sustained pieces of action in American movies—a sequence that, in its juxtapositions of sound and image, beauty and horror, calls to mind the baptism/massacre from the end of The Godfather, the wedding party in The Deer Hunter, and a handful of other scenes in other movies that have found, in a single scenario, a vivid metaphor for all that is great and terrible, noble and selfish, tainted and hopeful about we the people."


Nicely written and he overrates it to be sure, but I have no idea why people disliked that sequence so much. I felt it was executed beautifully and more in line with Hitchcock suspense a la The Man Who Knew Too Much crosscutting.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsoYwysCdfY[/youtube]


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 Post subject: Re: Last Film You Saw And Rate It
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Yeah, no, Nolan doesn't do justapositions well, that would require being able to capture both beauty and horror, neither of which Nolan can do because his style and aesthetic is way too damn dull for that, and he just can't direct action scenes for shit, well ok he did improve a lot with The Dark Knight, in which he realized that his bullshit fast editing and cross cutting close ups reduced all the action to an incomprehensble mess and people actually like knowing what the fuck they're looking at, showing he CAN learn from his mistakes, and yet having seen The Dark Knight Rises or as much of it as I care to see I can say pretty confidently that the relatively well done action scenes in TDK must have been a fucking fluke because TDKR's action scenes are just plain fucking clumsy, as is that entire movie, I can't stress enough how laughably bad that football scene is, it's Yakety Sax material.

Nolan makes big dumb hollywood movies that are trying to convince people they're smart movies, which would be fine except they're not even good by big dumb hollywood movie standards, they shouldn't even be rated above Independence Day, let alone Taxi Driver.

I'm not like George who hates all genre films and only watches films about Russian girls criticizing capitalism while masturbating on a humpback whale or whatever, lots of my favorite movies are genre films, and to be fair I don't completely hate Nolan, hell I thought The Prestige was pretty good, it was his last movie before going full on big budget hollywood guy and he just isn't fucking cut out for it at all, he tries directing big budget epic movies the same exact way he directs small scale psychological thrillers and it just doesn't fucking work.

I fucking loathe the Dark Knight trilogy, I hate damn near everything about those movies, even the performances from otherwise good actors (and also Christian Bale), and you know what I'm just going to say it, Ledger's Joker wasn't good either, in fact he was fucking terrible, we can admit that now right?


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When you describe Nolan's action sequences you sound as if you're describing Michael Bay movies. I honestly don't get that impression. You can criticize TDKR for a lot of things, notably for being overlong, having a lousy script (although Bane has some nice lines, but that has probably more to do with his English accent), for Marion Cotillard's pointless character, but that scene wanta posted has none of the close-ups, jittery editing and lack of visual clarity you have been stressing, without actually telling us what is particularly clumsy about it. I find it pretty impressive, especially in that way it handles things happening in different places at once: you have Bane walking underground, policemen looking for him, the pitch, bridges exploding, future Robin in his car, all at the same time, and the sense of Bane's manoeuvres closing down on a whole city is rendered effectively with a good sense of rythm between each set-piece, a good sense of spacce, and the way Bane says "that's a lovely lovely voice" adds a nice little irony. And the pitch collapsing is a pretty awesome thing in itself. The boat scene in TDK was similar in this way, but here even more stuff is happening. Interstellar has some beautiful sequences. Yes so it explains the theory of relativity in a not so subtle way to the audience, yes so it has the line "love is the only thing that transcends time and space", but that very line encapsulates a certain boldness in its storytelling. How many movies have a guy plinging into a black hole? I think some scenes attained a sort of "mathematical-aesthetic" beauty, in its dealing with the infinite whilst retaining a human element (artifically? perhaps), that some of Borges' short stories have.

Inception was definitely pretending to be clever whereas it was just a succession of action sequences stringed together by half-baked dream theory (with the most uncreative and drab dream sequences ever put to the screen), but I don't think his Batman films are pretending to be that clever. Well-crafted pieces of cinema, with your traditional superhero themes plugging into post 9/11 trauma, yes. The difference with other films perhaps is that Nolan (because he's English perhaps?) seems to be more negative about American society, emphasizes its divisions and its hypocrisy instead of showing what a great united country it is (like Emmerich and Michael Bay often do). TDKR has a definite anarchic theme (if banks and prisons started to go down, lower classes will be out for a vengeance - the boat scene in TDK has a similar theme, the elite and the preterite and with all the simplifications and generalizations such a division can spawn), there is a certain cynicism in Nolan's films that differentiates them from other films of the same genre, a cynicism which may be easily mistaken for cleverness, because saying things and people are bad always seems cleverer and "bolder", and perhaps they are in a way (that said I haven't seen a whole lot of other recent superhero movies but didn't Nolan's films contribute to the kind of "is it really worth saving these people who don't deserve it" fashion?). You can criticize Nolan for trying to make a "realistic" superhero film instead of following the comic-book tradition that Burton was more respectful of, but I think it's interesting.


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Don-Alexei wrote:
although Bane has some nice lines, but that has probably more to do with his English accent


:confused: an accent implies that he pronounced words. Which he clearly didn't do.


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 Post subject: Re: Last Film You Saw And Rate It
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Actually I've rewatched a highlights reel of his lines and he is more coherent than I recall. I'll give you the accent. He sounds like a fruity (fruitier) Patrick Stewart after a largely liquid lunch.


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