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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:32 pm 
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I would agree with the no PI call if officials were consistent with shit like this, but there have been many PI calls throughout the season where barely any contact was made, the defender was trying to make a play on the ball, and got called for PI. Due to this, I do not agree with reversing the call.


The thing is, with shit like this, it is consistent. The defender was making a play on the man. The contact wasn't excessive, but it wasn't minimal either.

They probably should have thrown two flags. One for the defensive PI and one for the illegal hands to the face. They would have offset and I believe third down would have been played again. But it seems like they never saw the hands to the face.

Dez Bryant should have been flagged for running on the field without his helmet to yell at the officials, but I think that's the kind of thing you don't call with the game on the line. Detroit also should have gone for it one 4th down, but I think that's closer to a coin flip decision.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:21 pm 
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joe c wrote:
I would agree with the no PI call if officials were consistent with shit like this, but there have been many PI calls throughout the season where barely any contact was made, the defender was trying to make a play on the ball, and got called for PI. Due to this, I do not agree with reversing the call.


The thing is, with shit like this, it is consistent. The defender was making a play on the man. The contact wasn't excessive, but it wasn't minimal either.

They probably should have thrown two flags. One for the defensive PI and one for the illegal hands to the face. They would have offset and I believe third down would have been played again. But it seems like they never saw the hands to the face.

Dez Bryant should have been flagged for running on the field without his helmet to yell at the officials, but I think that's the kind of thing you don't call with the game on the line. Detroit also should have gone for it one 4th down, but I think that's closer to a coin flip decision.


I don't think Detroit going for it is a split decision. And this is what pisses me off about officiating calls. On the second Terrence Williams TD right before that play the cowboys went from TD to 3rd and 12 because of an atrocious offensive pass interference call (when Williams was running a route and got shoved into Witten's man) that negated a TD and should have been no called. But the Cowboys got a TD right after that making it irrelevant. That's a worse call screw up but result was overcome


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 5:29 pm 
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Raiders have been interviewing some decent prospects. I would be happy if either Pep Hamilton or Jack del Rio was head coach (both who have been interviewed recently)


I do not think Pep Hamilton is a good candidate


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 Post subject: Re: NFL.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 6:11 pm 
mike shanaham lol


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Really glad the Bears reportedly have no interest in Shanahan or Ryan. Shanahan hasn't been that great without Elways, and Ryan would basically be Lovie (great D, no O) with a temper.


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Really glad the Bears reportedly have no interest in Shanahan or Ryan. Shanahan hasn't been that great without Elways, and Ryan would basically be Lovie (great D, no O) with a temper.


I think there is more to be said for Ryan than that but agree it's a bad situation to walk into.


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Raiders have been interviewing some decent prospects. I would be happy if either Pep Hamilton or Jack del Rio was head coach (both who have been interviewed recently)


I do not think Pep Hamilton is a good candidate

You think so? He's done a great job with Andrew Luck but yeah maybe he isn't fit for the head coaching job. At least Del Rio had that experience in Jacksonville.


Not really. Andrew Luck is a once in a generation talent and his offense these last two years (it was Arians the first year) has been fairly poor at using Luck.


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He also oversaw Rex Grossman's demise from good Rex/bad Rex to awful Rex all the time.

I think Del Rio could be pretty successful if given a second chance a la John Fox, Pete Carroll, Belichick, etc etc...


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Bones wrote:
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I do not think Pep Hamilton is a good candidate

You think so? He's done a great job with Andrew Luck but yeah maybe he isn't fit for the head coaching job. At least Del Rio had that experience in Jacksonville.


Not really. Andrew Luck is a once in a generation talent and his offense these last two years (it was Arians the first year) has been fairly poor at using Luck.

He was also his QB coach at Stanford. But yeah I do agree that Luck played a lot better under Arians.


My intelligence on Pep from people who played at Stanford is meh as offensive coordinator much less as head coach


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Out of curiosity did they like playing under Harbaugh or did they think he was too much of a harass? Also did they ever offer an opinion on how his specific hardassness would work with grown men? I'm just still trying to rationalize how the 49ers would want him to leave.


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Eric J wrote:
Out of curiosity did they like playing under Harbaugh or did they think he was too much of a harass? Also did they ever offer an opinion on how his specific hardassness would work with grown men? I'm just still trying to rationalize how the 49ers would want him to leave.


Split but I'd say of the people I've talked to about 2/3rds enjoyed playing for him. The ones who didn't like playing for him really didn't like playing for him though. All of them said he's not much of a Xs-Os guy but he can often make you want to run through a wall for him. I think most of them think it was a dumb decision.


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Bears hired Ryan Pace (Saints) as GM. Meh, I really wanted Ballard (Chiefs) as a million "sources" said he was by far the best candidate and the Bears would be stupid not to hire him. Word was Pace was pretty dead set on getting promoted to Saints GM, but apparently the Bears convinced him to take their job. Seems like a good thing but I don't really know.

They're supposed to interview Bowles today for DC, don't know whether Pace will already be at the interview but I really want Bowled. Young, badass, and with some head coaching experience.


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Eric J wrote:
Bears hired Ryan Pace (Saints) as GM. Meh, I really wanted Ballard (Chiefs) as a million "sources" said he was by far the best candidate and the Bears would be stupid not to hire him. Word was Pace was pretty dead set on getting promoted to Saints GM, but apparently the Bears convinced him to take their job. Seems like a good thing but I don't really know.

They're supposed to interview Bowles today for DC, don't know whether Pace will already be at the interview but I really want Bowled. Young, badass, and with some head coaching experience.


Interviewing him only for DC (or did you mean HC)? I can't see him leaving for a DC position (or Arizona letting him go) but he'd be an excellent head coaching hire I think.


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Yeah meant HC.


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 Post subject: Re: NFL.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:31 pm 
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Mangini


more like mangina

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