They'd need the receivers to come back. Without the receivers and with that fairly blah o-line I'd give them less than 5% (but without Brady in that circumstance it's effectively 0%).

And possibly in history if he keeps this up.

Possibly to probably yes. Part of that is there are more well rounded elites at other positions. For example JJ Watt is really fucking great but he's not touching Reggie White for best defensive lineman of all time. Gronk is basically the best blocking tight end in the league and if not number one he's top five and he's also the best receiving tight end and it isn't particularly close. Most of the other great tight ends are kind of one or the other and even the exceptions like Jason Witten aren't quite as good at either as Gronk even in their prime. Health is really his only weakness and really that just seems like God saying "well can't have a perfect football player, better give him an achilles heal)

Sunday Dec 20 in East Rutherford, NJ

I can fairly confidently state they won't go undefeated for the year but it's possible they don't lose until the playoffs.

Well I guess the Bears just were just taking a short hiatus from being a bad team instead of actually becoming kind of decent. Things actually do look pretty solid for next year and beyond though, especially if they can get a good 2nd-3rd round QB this offseason and then just stockpile a bunch of scary dudes on defense. The best thing is it does not appear to be a 3-4 year process like everyone was saying. It feels like instead in the next 3-4 years we'll be hovering around a wild card spot* with the potential for one really good run if things fall into place.

* Partially because our division is boss.

I still think you have to give Gonzalez's catch total a fair amount of credit, especially given the quarterbacks he played with. It's probably not that much lower than what Rice would have gotten with similar QBs. I don't remember his prime well enough to know about him as a blocker though.

He was a bad blocker when he started and a mediocre to decent one at his peak and then a bad blocker at the end.

Just talking some stuff in a poll, and I'll post it here:

The nfl just adopted the cfb way of doing things - top 4 get play-off's - right now, who's in, who's out and who's on the bubble?

Carolina (obviously in). Arizona has two losses but one close to a division opponent and early and one on the road at Pittsburgh but has the good quality wins. Pats similarly though they had the mini-losing streak (which would play poorly in college particularly the loss to Philly) are both the reigning champion, one of only 3 teams at 2 or better losses they get in.

After that it's tricky. Broncos would have likely knocked themselves out with the Oakland loss. Cincy with a tough division loss would be hard to deny but I could see either Pittsburgh (QB issues) or Seattle (great winning streak and looks dominant) getting some chances. Green Bays late swoon would likely relegate them to lower bubble status (especially given the division doesn't look that great). Jets would also be a distant bubble team (but with a chance to get a statement win). Both NFC East and AFC South would be relegated to the garbage pile.

Would losing a starting QB be something the college selection committee would look at in a negative way?

Yeah, Cincy would be out because of dalton going down. Broncos would still be up for consideration because of the defense.

I really like corrections' rankings...ill state my case after work

And because Osweiler's outperformed Manning this year. I like Crx's top 3 and then I'd put the Broncos if Dalton going down counts. Agreed on Pittsburgh but could Seattle be considered after having a losing record through 10 weeks? And GB hasn't really done anything impressive since week 3.

Nah Denver would have been totally nixed for that Oakland loss. That's a really bad loss in the college system. They could work there way back over the last 3 of course but seriously that would be a killer