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Also, do we want to include Sugar with Husker Du?

Next:

Captain Beefheart
Cheap Trick
Crystals
The Fall
Megadeth
New York Dolls
Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds
Pavement
PJ Harvey
Randy Newman

This is what I came up with:
1. New York Dolls
2. Captain Beefheart
3. Cheap Trick
4. The Crystals
5. Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
6. PJ Harvey
7. Pavement
8 ...

I'd say Lou Reed takes acclaim and popularity over MC5 and Husker Du, as well as acclaim and influence over Sade and Phil Collins.

Toots and the Maytals seem a bit low considering their significant influence. I'd say they're more acclaimed and clearly more influential than most artists in the ...

Maybe right after Gabin in The Grand Illusion.

1. Gene Vincent & the Blue Caps
2. Toots & the Maytals
3. Jimmy Buffett
4. UB40
5. Lou Reed
6. Huey Lewis & the News
7. Ohio Players
8. Warren Zevon

I suggest we first look at/insert this group.

This is what I came up with:

1. Lou Reed
2. Gene Vincent & the Blue Caps
3. Toots and the Maytals
4 ...

Top ranked rap/hip-hop artists. Borderline artists in parenthesis.

1. Kanye West
2. Jay-Z
3. Run-D.M.C.
4. Eminem
5. 2pac
6. Kendrick Lamar
7. Public Enemy
8. Drake
9. The Beastie Boys
10. Outkast
11. The Notorious B.I.G.
12. N.W.A
13. Dr. Dre
14. Eric B. & Rakim
15. LL Cool J
16. Grandmaster ...

Top ranked rock groups (excluding primarily vocal groups, hip-hop groups, Roots & Beasties aside, electronic music groups, duos, backing bands) Groups which cover only a part of artists' placement or borderline according to criteria above in parenthesis.

1. The Beatles
2. The Rolling Stones
3 ...

Tim wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2026 12:03 pm

To re-cap what we got after adding Chris F.'s picks. Feels sorta sexist with so many female artists near the bottom.

I get the feeling Chris F intentionally tried to add extra female artists so I don't feel too bad about this.

In fine with the Kurtis Blow move, and I could see Ice-T moving up to behind Tracy Chapman considering his large cultural impact.

I think I'd move Say Anything up a spot on Cusack's list.

I'd have Max Schreck higher.

I think I'd have Scorpions over Alice Cooper since I think their music from their glam metal period is more popular than Alice Cooper's.

Tim wrote: Sat Jun 20, 2026 4:09 am How about this?

4. KISS (1983 - 1993 output)
5. Bon Jovi (1984 - 1988 output)

I'd think if we only include these respective eras from each band, I'd think Bon Jovi should be ahead of KISS for sure.

The last Chris F. group:

Jack Scott
Dave Matthews Band
Bachman-Turner Overdrive
Doug E. Fresh
Fugazi
Ice-T
Black Flag
Larry Williams
Ritchie Valens
Big Mama Thornton


I'd say
1. Ritchie Valens
2. Ice-T/Body Count
3. Fugazi
4. Doug E. Fresh & the Get Fresh Crew
5. Jack Scott
6. Larry Williams
7 ...

I'd give Erykah Badu acclaim and popularity over BDP, acclaim and influence as well as acclaim and influence over INXS, Steve Miller Band, Tina Turner, Bryan Adams, Mellencamp and ZZ Top.

I'd give Television acclaim and influence over most of those artists as well.

I'd say...
275. Weezer
276. The ...

I'd say Scarface and Geto Boys should be listed together.