250 Greatest Movies of the 2010s (Revision Version)

[Dubrow555]

Good point - let's switch them back

So 1917 > MS

[Dubrow555]

I've also realized I've unintentionally moved back BR2024 about 5 slots, so wondering if you all think that should move up on my draft.

[Tim]

Don't think Blade Runner's placement is a problem.

[Tim]

Given Your Name's box office success and strong acclaim I'd think it should make an appearance in this range.

[Dubrow555]

Very interesting...I have a feeling MP will agree with you. That's quite a significant jump up - do we want it ahead of HTTYD and Zootopia?

[ManPerson]

Very interesting...I have a feeling MP will agree with you. That's quite a significant jump up - do we want it ahead of HTTYD and Zootopia?

I think so. Huge audience acclaim and one of the most successful anime films of all time.

[Dubrow555]

Okay you guys convinced me (made a few tweeks, moved up BR2024 slightly):

41. Portrait of a Lady on Fire
42. The Favourite
43. Frozen
44. Shoplifters
45. Dunkirk
46. The Shape of Water
47. Spotlight
48. Manchester by the Sea
49. Carol
50. Marriage Story
51. 1917
52. Your Name.
53. Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
54. A Star is Born
55. Blue Is the Warmest Colour
56. Blade Runner 2049
57. Argo
58. Silver Linings Playbook
59. Hugo
60. How to Train Your Dragon

(Took off - The Artist)

[Tim]

I'd move 1917 over Manchester by the Sea/Carol/Marriage Story group as I think it wins popularity over any of them by more than it loses acclaim.

[Dubrow555]

I'd be fine with that.

[ManPerson]

The Favourite seems to fit pretty well into the Manchester by the Sea/Carol/Marriage Story group so I'd move it down into that range

Some films I'd have in the 41-60 group are:
Avengers: Infinity War - Huge popularity and audience acclaim. Similar to Avengers: Endgame with a bit less initial popularity and critical acclaim
Deadpool - Strong popularity and audience acclaim, breakthrough for Ryan Reynolds and it even got a golden globe nomination for best comedy or musical
Coco - Similar acclaim to something like Blade Runner 2049 and stronger popularity
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 - Huge popularity and audience acclaim with very strong critic ratings as well (85 on Metacritic, 96 on RT)
Incendies - Strong critical acclaim, great audience ratings across the board, decent lasting popularity and Denis' breakthrough as well.

[Dubrow555]

The Favourite seems to fit pretty well into the Manchester by the Sea/Carol/Marriage Story group so I'd move it down into that range

Some films I'd have in the 41-60 group are:
Avengers: Infinity War - Huge popularity and audience acclaim. Similar to Avengers: Endgame with a bit less initial popularity and critical acclaim
Deadpool - Strong popularity and audience acclaim, breakthrough for Ryan Reynolds and it even got a golden globe nomination for best comedy or musical
Coco - Similar acclaim to something like Blade Runner 2049 and stronger popularity
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 - Huge popularity and audience acclaim with very strong critic ratings as well (85 on Metacritic, 96 on RT)
Incendies - Strong critical acclaim, great audience ratings across the board, decent lasting popularity and Denis' breakthrough as well.

Most certainly not - he was the lead in several films before this like Amityville Horror, Definitely Maybe, and The Proposal.

If everyone else is on board, I'm pretty okay with these adds (do you want to place them where you think appropriate?).

[ManPerson]

'Breakthrough 'was probably a poor choice of words, but the film definitely deserves a lions share of the credit for him becoming one of the biggest movie stars of the past few years, a status he certainly did not have before it came out.

[Dubrow555]

According to his wiki: "Reynolds was named People's Sexiest Man Alive in 2010"

So idk...there's some credence to Deadpool furthering his career/popularity, but he certainly was a major star before 2016.

[Fido]

My apologies to MP if the post came out that way, it was meant to be more tongue in cheek than anything.

The point of the post was to criticize that kind of simplified breakdowns that don't take into account how certain movies have a huge advantage in popularity by design, made worse when giving that much importance to audience acclaim, which is just an extension of those advantages in most cases.

[ManPerson]

My apologies to MP if the post came out that way, it was meant to be more tongue in cheek than anything.

The point of the post was to criticize that kind of simplified breakdowns that don't take into account how certain movies have a huge advantage in popularity by design, made worse when giving that much importance to audience acclaim, which is just an extension of those advantages in most cases.

Highly popular movies often have mediocre ratings on IMDb and Letterboxd and more obscure films often have high ratings.

Plus, whether those films (assuming you're referring to stuff by Marvel, DC, Disney, etc.) are popular "by design" or not, they are the most seen and culturally impactful films of the year, which is what the popularity category should measure.

[Dubrow555]

How about something like this? (I don't agree with giving too much credence to Infinity War, as the 2012 film + Endgame seemed a lot more culturally impactful than that one):

41. Portrait of a Lady on Fire
42. Frozen
43. Shoplifters
44. Dunkirk
45. The Shape of Water
46. 1917
47. The Favourite
48. Spotlight
49. Manchester by the Sea
50. Carol
51. Marriage Story
52. Your Name.
53. Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
54. A Star is Born
55. Blade Runner 2049
56. Incendies
57. Blue Is the Warmest Colour
58. Avengers: Infinity War
59. Deadpool
60. Coco

[ManPerson]

Looks pretty good.

[Tim]

Not a fan of having two #56