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Seems a bit high for En Vogue, I'd say The Offspring are similar in acclaim and popularity while being more influential; I think Cyndi Lauper's more influential and popular, while Steve Miller Band are more acclaimed and popular. I think Suede and BDP are also more acclaimed and popular. I could see them next to Cypress Hill.

I'd have Roberta Flack around there too, I don't think she should be ahead of SZA, The Stone Roses or Big Star, since all three are at least a bit more acclaimed while SZA is more popular and the other two are more influential. I think having her next to INXS and the Doobie Brothers is fair.

I'd probably have Desmond Dekker behind M.I.A., since I think he's more acclaimed and influential than most of the group below that.

I think Free are fairly comparable with Procol Harum, maybe they should be next to each other.

Dr. John seems high, Queens of the Stone Age and Beach House are more acclaimed and popular, for instance.

Not sure Gang Starr have anything on The Roots, I think they're very comparable with Common, so I'd have them somewhere there.

I think EPMD are less acclaimed and popular than Black Keys, and Supertramp. I could see them next to The Sonics.

I'd say that The Cadillacs win influence by so much more than The Five Keys win popularity and acclaim that they should swap places on the latest list version.

290. The Spinners
291. Rick James
292. Barry White
293. Weezer
294. Gil Scott-Heron
295. Linda Ronstadt
296. Foo Fighters
297. The Shadows
298. Emerson, Lake & Palmer
299. Erykah Badu
300. Gary Numan/Tubeway Army
301. Toots & the Maytals
302. Television
303. Todd Rundgren (& related bands)
304. Slayer
305. Shakira
306. Jeff Beck
307. Jimmy Cliff
308. 50 Cent
309. Link Wray (& the Wraymen)
310. Boston
311. Cheap Trick
312. Harry Nilsson
313. Jesse Belvin/Jesse & Marvin
314. Buffalo Springfield
315. Devo
316. Ed Sheeran
317. Bruno Mars
318. Justin Bieber
319. Journey
320. John Mellencamp
321. ZZ Top
322. Big Jay McNeely
323. The Moonglows
324. Duane Eddy
325. Alice in Chains
326. Gorillaz
327. The Offspring
328. Backstreet Boys
329. Heart
330. Cyndi Lauper
331. M.I.A.
332. Desmond Dekker & the Aces
333. Bryan Adams
334. Tina Turner
335. Patti LaBelle/Labelle
336. Nelly
337. Kelly Clarkson
338. Christina Aguilera
339. Steve Miller Band
340. The Dells
341. The Spaniels
342. Faye Adams
343. Judas Priest
344. Cliff Richard
345. Mötley Crüe
346. Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds
347. Korn
348. PJ Harvey
349. Robyn
350. SZA
351. Kylie Minogue
352. The Stone Roses
353. Big Star
354. P!nk
355. Tyler, the Creator
356. Suede
357. Roberta Flack
358. INXS
359. The Doobie Brothers
360. Moby
361. The Verve
362. My Chemical Romance
363. The Chemical Brothers
364. Jan & Dean
365. Boogie Down Productions
366. The B-52's
367. En Vogue
368. Cypress Hill
369. Joe Cocker
370. Ozzy Osbourne
371. Cat Stevens
372. Randy Newman
373. Ritchie Valens
374. Dick Dale & the Del-Tones
375. No Doubt
376. blink-182
377. Scorpions
378. The Black Eyed Peas
379. BTS
380. Meat Loaf
381. Gloria Estefan/Miami Sound Machine
382. Anita Baker
383. Mary Wells
384. Charli XCX
385. Portishead
386. Fiona Apple
387. My Bloody Valentine
388. Jeff Buckley
389. Tame Impala
390. Tori Amos
391. Blue Öyster Cult
392. Wire
393. Cardi B
394. Tracy Chapman
395. The Jam
396. Ice-T/Body Count
397. Shirley & Lee
398. The Dave Clark Five
399. Muse
400. The Hollies
401. The Stylistics
402. Janelle Monáe
403. Big Daddy Kane
404. Giorgio Moroder
405. Can
406. Fugazi
407. Linkin Park
408. Donovan
409. Steppenwolf
410. Doug E. Fresh & the Get Fresh Crew
411. The Specials
412. Pavement
413. The Jesus and Mary Chain
414. (Small) Faces
415. One Direction
416. Sting
417. Queen Latifah
418. Screamin' Jay Hawkins
419. Suicide
420. Dead Kennedys
421. Professor Longhair
422. Lee "Scratch" Perry/The Upsetters
423. Siouxsie and the Banshees
424. The Killers
425. Suzanne Vega
426. Belle and Sebastian
427. Black Flag
428. Gang of Four
429. Gwen Stefani
430. Franz Ferdinand
431. Katy Perry
432. Gloria Gaynor
433. Laura Nyro
434. X
435. Foreigner
436. System of a Down
437. Megadeth
438. Tool
439. Peter Frampton
440. Travis Scott
441. Dua Lipa
442. Carly Simon
443. The Roots
444. Bad Brains
445. Gary U.S. Bonds
446. Busta Rhymes
447. Avril Lavigne
448. Brandy
449. Chappell Roan
450. Boy George/Culture Club
451. LCD Soundsystem
452. Bon Iver
453. Supertramp
454. Gnarls Barkley
455. EPMD
456. The Sonics
457. Nelly Furtado
458. The Pointer Sisters
459. *NSYNC
460. DMX
461. The Black Keys
462. Jack Scott
463. Tommy James & the Shondells
464. Ben E. King
465. Pulp
466. Larry Williams
467. The Chi-Lites
468. The Delfonics
469. Huey "Piano" Smith & His Clowns
470. Traffic
471. Sparks
472. Kurtis Blow
473. Primal Scream
474. The Cadillacs
475. Nick Drake
476. Junior Walker & the All Stars
477. Lee Dorsey
478. Ricky Martin
479. Sonny & Cher
480. Sam the Sham & the Pharaohs
481. Paul Revere & the Raiders
482. Madness
483. Dinosaur Jr.
484. Wilco
485. Kings of Leon
486. Yeah Yeah Yeahs
487. Free
488. Procol Harum
489. XTC
490. Talk Talk
491. Scott Walker/The Walker Brothers
492. Gang Starr
493. Common
494. Blue Cheer
495. Pantera
496. Blood, Sweat & Tears
497. The Zombies
498. Cameo
499. The Fall
500. Beach House
501. Migos
502. Pusha T/Clipse
503. The Five Keys
504. Bauhaus
505. Public Image Ltd.
506. Billy Idol/Generation X
507. Queens of the Stone Age
508. Johnny Rivers
509. The Gap Band
510. Dr. John

Geto Boys
Go-Go's
Jane's Addiction
Jungle Brothers
Kool G Rap & DJ Polo
Kool Moe Dee/The Treacherous Three
Little Anthony & the Imperials
Love
Darlene Love/The Blossoms/Bob B. Soxx & the Blue Jeans
Percy Mayfield

1. Jane's Addiction
2. Go-Go's
3. Love
4. Jungle Brothers
5. Scarface/Geto Boys
6. Kool Moe Dee/The Treacherous Three
7. Kool G Rap (& DJ Polo)
8. Little Anthony & the Imperials
9. Darlene Love/The Blossoms/Bob B. Soxx & the Blue Jeans
10. Percy Mayfield

The question for Darlene Love is: Do the miscredited "He's a Rebel" and "He's Sure the Boy I Love" singles count in her favor or do they not? After all, it was The Blossoms who recorded them. The Crystals had nothing to do with it.

A bit of unusual situation but I'd count it for Love (and discount it for Crystals) Think it changes her placement within this group?

I think He's a Rebel should count for the Crystals since it's always listed as such. If we count it for Love I'm thinking the Crystals could probably move down a little.

Thoughts:

270. Jethro Tull
271. Soundgarden
272. George Harrison
273. D'Angelo
274. Aaliyah
275. Electric Light Orchestra
276. New York Dolls
277. Arcade Fire
278. The (Young) Rascals
279. T.I.
280. Gene Vincent & the Blue Caps
281. The Marvelettes
282. Joe Tex
283. The Prodigy
284. Johnny Ace
285. Lloyd Price
286. Cher
287. R. Kelly
288. The Lovin' Spoonful 
289. The Spinners
290. Rick James
291. Barry White
292. Weezer
293. Gil Scott-Heron
294. The Crystals
295. Linda Ronstadt
296. Foo Fighters
297. The Shadows
298. Emerson, Lake & Palmer
299. Erykah Badu
300. Gary Numan/Tubeway Army
301. Toots & the Maytals
302. Television
303. Todd Rundgren (& related bands)
304. Slayer
305. Shakira
306. Jeff Beck
307. Jimmy Cliff
308. 50 Cent
309. Link Wray (& the Wraymen)
310. Boston
311. Cheap Trick
312. Harry Nilsson
313. Jesse Belvin/Jesse & Marvin
314. Buffalo Springfield
315. Devo
316. Ed Sheeran
317. Bruno Mars
318. Justin Bieber
319. Journey
320. John Mellencamp
321. ZZ Top
322. Big Jay McNeely
323. The Moonglows
324. Duane Eddy
325. Alice in Chains
326. Gorillaz
327. The Offspring
328. Backstreet Boys
329. Heart
330. Cyndi Lauper
331. M.I.A.
332. Desmond Dekker & the Aces
333. Bryan Adams
334. Tina Turner
335. Patti LaBelle/Labelle
336. Nelly
337. Kelly Clarkson
338. Christina Aguilera
339. Steve Miller Band
340. The Dells
341. The Spaniels
342. Faye Adams
343. Judas Priest
344. Cliff Richard
345. Mötley Crüe
346. Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds
347. Korn
348. PJ Harvey
349. Robyn
350. SZA
351. Kylie Minogue
352. The Stone Roses
353. Big Star
354. P!nk
355. Tyler, the Creator
356. Suede
357. Roberta Flack
358. INXS
359. The Doobie Brothers
360. Moby
361. The Verve
362. My Chemical Romance
363. The Chemical Brothers
364. Jan & Dean
365. Boogie Down Productions
366. The B-52's
367. En Vogue
368. Cypress Hill
369. Joe Cocker
370. Ozzy Osbourne
371. Cat Stevens
372. Randy Newman
373. Ritchie Valens
374. Dick Dale & the Del-Tones
375. Jane's Addiction
376. No Doubt
377. blink-182
378. Scorpions
379. The Black Eyed Peas
380. BTS
381. Meat Loaf
382. Gloria Estefan/Miami Sound Machine
383. Anita Baker
384. Mary Wells
385. Charli XCX
386. Portishead
387. Fiona Apple
388. My Bloody Valentine
389. Jeff Buckley
390. Tame Impala
391. Tori Amos
392. Blue Öyster Cult
393. Wire
394. Cardi B
395. Go-Go's
396. Tracy Chapman
397. The Jam
398. Ice-T/Body Count
399. Shirley & Lee
400. The Dave Clark Five
401. Muse
402. The Hollies
403. The Stylistics
404. Janelle Monáe
405. Big Daddy Kane
406. Giorgio Moroder
407. Can
408. Fugazi
409. Linkin Park
410. Donovan
411. Steppenwolf
412. Doug E. Fresh & the Get Fresh Crew
413. The Specials
414. Pavement
415. The Jesus and Mary Chain
416. (Small) Faces
417. One Direction
418. Sting
419. Queen Latifah
420. Screamin' Jay Hawkins
421. Suicide
422. Dead Kennedys
423. Professor Longhair
424. Lee "Scratch" Perry/The Upsetters
425. Siouxsie and the Banshees
426. The Killers
427. Suzanne Vega
428. Belle and Sebastian
429. Black Flag
430. Gang of Four
431. Gwen Stefani
432. Franz Ferdinand
433. Katy Perry
434. Gloria Gaynor
435. Love
436. Laura Nyro
437. X
438. Foreigner
439. System of a Down
440. Megadeth
441. Tool
442. Peter Frampton
443. Travis Scott
444. Dua Lipa
445. Carly Simon
446. The Roots
447. Bad Brains
448. Gary U.S. Bonds
449. Busta Rhymes
450. Avril Lavigne
451. Brandy
452. Chappell Roan
453. Boy George/Culture Club
454. LCD Soundsystem
455. Bon Iver
456. Supertramp
457. Gnarls Barkley
458. EPMD
459. The Sonics
460. Nelly Furtado
461. The Pointer Sisters
462. *NSYNC
463. DMX
464. The Black Keys
465. Jack Scott
466. Tommy James & the Shondells
467. Ben E. King
468. Pulp
469. Larry Williams
470. The Chi-Lites
471. The Delfonics
472. Huey "Piano" Smith & His Clowns
473. Traffic
474. Sparks
475. Kurtis Blow
476. Primal Scream
477. The Cadillacs
478. Nick Drake
479. Junior Walker & the All Stars
480. Lee Dorsey
481. Ricky Martin
482. Sonny & Cher
483. Sam the Sham & the Pharaohs
484. Paul Revere & the Raiders
485. Madness
486. Dinosaur Jr.
487. Wilco
488. Kings of Leon
489. Yeah Yeah Yeahs
490. Darlene Love (& related groups)
491. Free
492. Procol Harum
493. XTC
494. Talk Talk
495. Scott Walker/The Walker Brothers
496. Gang Starr
497. Common
498. Jungle Brothers
499. Blue Cheer
500. Pantera
501. Blood, Sweat & Tears
502. The Zombies
503. Cameo
504. The Fall
505. Beach House

Tim wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2026 11:27 am A bit of unusual situation but I'd count it for Love (and discount it for Crystals) Think it changes her placement within this group?

Well, "He's a Rebel" is her greatest song so, yes, I think it would matter quite a bit. My vote would also go to counting the two singles for Love and not The Crystals. FWIW, Sampson seems to have at least used that logicfor his rock hall candidate pages, where he never rated The Crystals as worthy candidates.

Also, I'd credit the Darlene Love entry in a similar way to Rundgren's as "Darlene Love (& related groups)".

pauldrach wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 2:19 am

Tim wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2026 11:27 am A bit of unusual situation but I'd count it for Love (and discount it for Crystals) Think it changes her placement within this group?

Well, "He's a Rebel" is her greatest song so, yes, I think it would matter quite a bit. My vote would also go to counting the two singles for Love and not The Crystals. FWIW, Sampson seems to have at least used that logicfor his rock hall candidate pages, where he never rated The Crystals as worthy candidates.

On the other hand, Crystals are ranked rather respectable #67 on Samp's own 1960s list.

I see paul objects to having Free in the top 500 as per Man's suggestion.

Tim wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2026 12:37 am Geto Boys
Go-Go's
Jane's Addiction
Jungle Brothers
Kool G Rap & DJ Polo
Kool Moe Dee/The Treacherous Three
Little Anthony & the Imperials
Love
Darlene Love/The Blossoms/Bob B. Soxx & the Blue Jeans
Percy Mayfield

This is what I came up with for the last group
1. Jane's Addiction
2. The Go-Go's
3. Geto Boys/Scarface
4. Love
5. Darlene Love et al.
6. The Jungle Brothers
7. Kool Moe Dee/The Treacherous Three
8. Little Anthony & the Imperials
9. Kool G Rap & DJ Polo
10. Percy Mayfield

I could see Jane's Addiction higher, more acclaimed and influential than INXS and Doobie Brothers for instance. I could see them next to Suede.

Tim wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2026 8:50 am I see paul objects to having Free in the top 500 as per Man's suggestion.

As I said, tell me whenever I miss something. I usually notice those changes when you bold them.

290. Rick James
291. Barry White
292. Weezer
293. Gil Scott-Heron
294. Linda Ronstadt
295. Foo Fighters
296. The Shadows
297. Emerson, Lake & Palmer
298. Erykah Badu
299. Gary Numan/Tubeway Army
300. Toots & the Maytals
301. Television
302. Todd Rundgren (& related bands)
303. Slayer
304. Shakira
305. Jeff Beck
306. Jimmy Cliff
307. 50 Cent
308. Link Wray (& the Wraymen)
309. Boston
310. Cheap Trick
311. Harry Nilsson
312. Jesse Belvin/Jesse & Marvin
313. Buffalo Springfield
314. Devo
315. Ed Sheeran
316. Bruno Mars
317. Justin Bieber
318. Journey
319. John Mellencamp
320. ZZ Top
321. Big Jay McNeely
322. The Moonglows
323. Duane Eddy
324. Alice in Chains
325. Gorillaz
326. The Offspring
327. Backstreet Boys
328. Heart
329. Cyndi Lauper
330. M.I.A.
331. Desmond Dekker & the Aces
332. Bryan Adams
333. Tina Turner
334. Patti LaBelle/Labelle
335. Nelly
336. Kelly Clarkson
337. Christina Aguilera
338. Steve Miller Band
339. The Dells
340. The Spaniels
341. Faye Adams
342. Judas Priest
343. Cliff Richard
344. Mötley Crüe
345. Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds
346. Korn
347. PJ Harvey
348. Robyn
349. SZA
350. Kylie Minogue
351. The Stone Roses
352. Big Star
353. P!nk
354. Tyler, the Creator
355. Suede
356. Jane's Addiction
357. Roberta Flack
358. INXS
359. The Doobie Brothers
360. Moby
361. The Verve
362. My Chemical Romance
363. The Chemical Brothers
364. Jan & Dean
365. Boogie Down Productions
366. The B-52's
367. En Vogue
368. Cypress Hill
369. Joe Cocker
370. Ozzy Osbourne
371. Cat Stevens
372. Randy Newman
373. Ritchie Valens
374. Dick Dale & the Del-Tones
375. No Doubt
376. blink-182
377. Scorpions
378. The Black Eyed Peas
379. BTS
380. Meat Loaf
381. Gloria Estefan/Miami Sound Machine
382. Anita Baker
383. Mary Wells
384. Charli XCX
385. Portishead
386. Fiona Apple
387. My Bloody Valentine
388. Jeff Buckley
389. Tame Impala
390. Tori Amos
391. Blue Öyster Cult
392. Wire
393. Cardi B
394. Go-Go's
395. Tracy Chapman
396. The Jam
397. Ice-T/Body Count
398. Shirley & Lee
399. The Dave Clark Five
400. Muse
401. The Hollies
402. The Stylistics
403. Janelle Monáe
404. Big Daddy Kane
405. Giorgio Moroder
406. Can
407. Fugazi
408. Linkin Park
409. Donovan
410. The Crystals
411. Steppenwolf
412. Doug E. Fresh & the Get Fresh Crew
413. The Specials
414. Pavement
415. The Jesus and Mary Chain
416. (Small) Faces
417. One Direction
418. Sting
419. Queen Latifah
420. Screamin' Jay Hawkins
421. Suicide
422. Dead Kennedys
423. Professor Longhair
424. Lee "Scratch" Perry/The Upsetters
425. Siouxsie and the Banshees
426. The Killers
427. Suzanne Vega
428. Belle and Sebastian
429. Black Flag
430. Gang of Four
431. Geto Boys/Scarface
432. Gwen Stefani
433. Franz Ferdinand
434. Katy Perry
435. Gloria Gaynor
436. Love
437. Laura Nyro
438. X
439. Foreigner
440. System of a Down
441. Megadeth
442. Tool
443. Peter Frampton
444. Travis Scott
445. Dua Lipa
446. Carly Simon
447. The Roots
448. Bad Brains
449. Gary U.S. Bonds
450. Busta Rhymes
451. Avril Lavigne
452. Brandy
453. Chappell Roan
454. Boy George/Culture Club
455. LCD Soundsystem
456. Bon Iver
457. Supertramp
458. Gnarls Barkley
459. EPMD
460. The Sonics
461. Nelly Furtado
462. The Pointer Sisters
463. *NSYNC
464. DMX
465. The Black Keys
466. Jack Scott
467. Tommy James & the Shondells
468. Ben E. King
469. Pulp
470. Larry Williams
471. The Chi-Lites
472. The Delfonics
473. Huey "Piano" Smith & His Clowns
474. Traffic
475. Sparks
476. Kurtis Blow
477. Primal Scream
478. The Cadillacs
479. Nick Drake
480. Junior Walker & the All Stars
481. Lee Dorsey
482. Ricky Martin
483. Sonny & Cher
484. Sam the Sham & the Pharaohs
485. Paul Revere & the Raiders
486. Madness
487. Dinosaur Jr.
488. Wilco
489. Kings of Leon
490. Yeah Yeah Yeahs
491. Darlene Love (& related groups)
492. Procol Harum
493. Free
494. XTC
495. Talk Talk
496. Scott Walker/The Walker Brothers
497. Gang Starr
498. Common
499. Jungle Brothers
500. Blue Cheer
501. Pantera
502. Blood, Sweat & Tears
503. The Zombies
504. Cameo
505. The Fall
506. Beach House

Taking Man's feedback in, moved up Jane's Addiction, added Scarface slightly above Love. Also moved Crystals down more, now they are placed between Donovan and Steppenwolf to reflect their placement on the 1960s list closer. Also switched Procol Harum and Free as I'd give the former slight wins in acclaim and influence and if anything "A Whiter Shade Pale" is clearly more popular than "All Right Now".