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pauldrach wrote: Sun Aug 09, 2026 5:19 am

Tim wrote: Sat Aug 08, 2026 4:10 pm 1. a-ha
2. Bone Thugs-N-Harmony
3. Bobby Brown
4. ABC
5. Anthrax
6. Babyface
7. ANOHNI/Antony and the Johnsons
8. Gene Chandler
9. Canned Heat
10. James Carr

I posted this upcoming bunch not knowing that you were aiming for a top 500. I think there will hardly be anybody else coming up I myself would consider worthy of a top 500 rank. So, don't go through all of those cause you want to do me a favor but if you think there's still a few diamonds among them, go ahead.

Paulo...are you saying that Bobby Brown does not deserve the time/attention of this great forum? How dare you!!!!

Tim wrote: Sat Aug 08, 2026 8:03 pm Guy
Donny Hathaway
Smiley Lewis
Ludacris
John Mayall & the Bluesbreakers
Lucky Millinder
Mobb Deep
Modest Mouse
Mos Def
Mott the Hoople

I could see Guy being combined with Blackstreet

1. Donny Hathaway
2. Ludacris
3. Modest Mouse
4. Guy/Blackstreet
5. Smiley Lewis
6. Mobb Deep
7. Mos Def
8. Mott the Hoople
9. John Mayall & the Bluesbreakers

Sampson has Lucky Millinder in his list of direct influences on rock so I don't think he's eligible.

Thoughts?

440. Franz Ferdinand
441. Katy Perry
442. Gloria Gaynor
443. Love
444. Donny Hathaway
445. Laura Nyro
446. X
447. Foreigner
448. System of a Down
449. Megadeth
450. Tool
451. Peter Frampton
452. Travis Scott
453. Dua Lipa
454. New Edition
455. Carly Simon
456. The Roots
457. Bad Brains
458. Gary U.S. Bonds
459. Busta Rhymes
460. Avril Lavigne
461. Brandy
462. Chappell Roan
463. Simple Minds
464. Boy George/Culture Club
465. LCD Soundsystem
466. Bon Iver
467. Vampire Weekend
468. Supertramp
469. Gnarls Barkley
470. Johnny "Guitar" Watson
471. EPMD
472. The Sonics
473. Nelly Furtado
474. The Pointer Sisters
475. *NSYNC
476. DMX
477. Free/Bad Company
478. The Black Keys
479. Jack Scott
480. Tommy James & the Shondells
481. Ben E. King
482. Ludacris
483. Pulp
484. Larry Williams
485. The Chi-Lites
486. The Delfonics
487. Huey "Piano" Smith & His Clowns
488. Traffic
489. Modest Mouse
490. Sparks
491. Kurtis Blow
492. The Del-Vikings
493. Primal Scream
494. The Cadillacs
495. Nick Drake
496. Guy/BLACKstreet
497. Jr. Walker & the All Stars
498. Lee Dorsey
499. Ricky Martin
500. ABC

Not sure Modest Mouse and Guy need to be here. I'd give Ricky Martin popularity and influence, and I'd probably have Ludacris next to Ricky Martin.

440. Franz Ferdinand
441. Katy Perry
442. Gloria Gaynor
443. Love
444. Donny Hathaway
445. Laura Nyro
446. X
447. Foreigner
448. System of a Down
449. Megadeth
450. Tool
451. Peter Frampton
452. Travis Scott
453. Dua Lipa
454. New Edition
455. Carly Simon
456. The Roots
457. Bad Brains
458. Gary U.S. Bonds
459. Busta Rhymes
460. Avril Lavigne
461. Brandy
462. Chappell Roan
463. Simple Minds
464. Boy George/Culture Club
465. LCD Soundsystem
466. Bon Iver
467. Vampire Weekend
468. Supertramp
469. Gnarls Barkley
470. Johnny "Guitar" Watson
471. EPMD
472. The Sonics
473. Nelly Furtado
474. The Pointer Sisters
475. *NSYNC
476. DMX
477. Free/Bad Company
478. The Black Keys
479. Jack Scott
480. Tommy James & the Shondells
481. Ben E. King
482. Pulp
483. Larry Williams
484. The Chi-Lites
485. The Delfonics
486. Huey "Piano" Smith & His Clowns
487. Traffic
488. Sparks
489. Kurtis Blow
490. The Del-Vikings
491. Primal Scream
492. The Cadillacs
493. Nick Drake
494. Jr. Walker & the All Stars
495. Lee Dorsey
496. Ricky Martin
497. Ludacris
498. ABC
499. Lesley Gore
500. Sonny & Cher

Naughty by Nature
Ann Peebles
Lou Rawls
The Robins
Seal
The Shangri-Las
The Shins
Simply Red
The Skatalites
Slade

1. The Shangri-Las
2. The Robins (could be combined with Coasters)
3. Simply Red
4. Lou Rawls
5. Seal
6. The Shins
7. Slade
8. Naughty by Nature
9. Ann Peebles
10. The Skatalites

Tim wrote: Sun Aug 09, 2026 2:39 pm2. The Robins (could be combined with Coasters)

Possibly. Another two-member connection and with both groups managed by Leiber-Stoller, this wouldn't be further apart than (Small) Faces or Free/Bad Co.

Bruce has them together on his pop list

Also on his doo wop list.

If we are combining entries a bit more liberally this time, I can see something like this:

1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. James Brown (& the Famous Flames)
4. Bob Dylan
5. Michael Jackson
6. Chuck Berry
7. Madonna
8. The Rolling Stones
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Ray Charles
11. Aretha Franklin
12. The Beach Boys
13. Led Zeppelin
14. Jimi Hendrix
15. Fats Domino
16. Prince (& the Revolution)
17. Little Richard
18. Marvin Gaye
19. Kanye West
20. Jay-Z
21. The Who
22. Sam Cooke
23. Pink Floyd
24. David Bowie
25. U2
26. Bruce Springsteen (& the E Street Band)
27. Run-D.M.C.
28. Nirvana
29. Diana Ross/The Supremes
30. Eminem
31. 2Pac
32. Beyoncé
33. Queen
34. Bob Marley & the Wailers
35. Buddy Holly/The Crickets
36. The Temptations
37. Neil Young (& Crazy Horse)
38. Kendrick Lamar
39. R.E.M.
40. Taylor Swift
41. Elton John
42. Mariah Carey
43. Whitney Houston
44. The Everly Brothers
45. Black Sabbath
46. Public Enemy
47. Drake
48. Otis Redding
49. Sly & the Family Stone
50. The Byrds
51. Metallica
52. Janet Jackson
53. Bill Haley & His Comets
54. Smokey Robinson/The Miracles
55. Bee Gees
56. The Kinks
57. Donna Summer
58. ABBA
59. Bo Diddley
60. Beastie Boys
61. Roy Orbison
62. The Clash
63. The Doors
64. Curtis Mayfield/The Impressions
65. AC/DC
66. George Clinton/Parliament-Funkadelic
67. Fleetwood Mac
68. The Velvet Underground
69. Joni Mitchell
70. Eagles
71. OutKast
72. Simon & Garfunkel
73. Rihanna
74. Britney Spears
75. The Notorious B.I.G.
76. Kraftwerk
77. Creedence Clearwater Revival/John Fogerty
78. Radiohead
79. The Grateful Dead
80. N.W.A
81. Dr. Dre
82. Ramones
83. Eric B. & Rakim
84. LL Cool J
85. Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five
86. Aerosmith
87. The Police
88. Guns N' Roses
89. Van Halen
90. The Drifters
91. Al Green
92. Pearl Jam
93. Jerry Lee Lewis
94. Rod Stewart
95. Paul McCartney/Wings
96. Lady Gaga
97. Coldplay
98. Green Day
99. Adele
100. Depeche Mode
101. The Jackson 5/The Jacksons
102. The Platters
103. Jackie Wilson
104. Missy Elliott
105. Earth, Wind & Fire
106. Mary J. Blige
107. Wynonie Harris
108. Roy Brown
109. Van Morrison/Them
110. Cream
111. The Isley Brothers
112. The Shirelles
113. The Dominoes
114. The Clovers
115. Ruth Brown
116. Joy Division/New Order
117. Frankie Valli/The Four Seasons
118. Red Hot Chili Peppers
119. Fugees/Lauryn Hill
120. The Weeknd
121. George Michael/Wham!
122. Eric Clapton
123. John Lennon (& Yoko Ono)
124. Deep Purple
125. Big Joe Turner
126. Santana
127. Johnny Otis
128. Amos Milburn
129. The Band
130. The Orioles
131. Tina Turner/Ike & Tina Turner
132. Four Tops
133. Frank Zappa/The Mothers of Invention
134. Etta James
135. Wilson Pickett
136. Janis Joplin/Big Brother and the Holding Company
137. Justin Timberlake
138. Blondie
139. Billy Joel
140. Martha & the Vandellas
141. Iron Maiden
142. Chic
143. Talking Heads/David Byrne
144. The Smiths
145. The Cure
146. Crosby, Stills & Nash (& Young)
147. Elvis Costello (& the Attractions)
148. Yes
149. Iggy Pop/The Stooges
150. The Allman Brothers Band
151. The Ravens
152. Rick Nelson
153. Hank Ballard & the Midnighters
154. Sex Pistols
155. Sam & Dave
156. Oasis
157. The "5" Royales
158. Daft Punk
159. The Yardbirds
160. De La Soul
161. TLC
162. Gladys Knight & the Pips
163. Kate Bush
164. Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry
165. Genesis
166. Lil Wayne
167. Nas
168. Wu-Tang Clan (incl. solo projects)
169. Tom Petty (& the Heartbreakers)
170. Dire Straits
171. Jefferson Airplane/Starship
172. Dion (& the Belmonts)
173. Booker T. & the M.G.'s
174. Carole King
175. Paul Simon
176. The Robins/The Coasters
177. Lynyrd Skynyrd
178. King Crimson
179. The O’Jays
180. Brian Eno
181. Frankie Lymon & the Teenagers
182. The Ronettes
183. Eddie Cochran
184. Carl Perkins
185. Patti Smith
186. LaVern Baker
187. A Tribe Called Quest
188. Pixies
189. Snoop Dogg
190. Lana Del Rey
191. Alice Cooper
192. Isaac Hayes
193. James Taylor
194. Steely Dan
195. Bob Seger (& the Silver Bullet Band)
196. The Mamas & the Papas
197. Solomon Burke
198. The Flamingos
199. The White Stripes
200. Smashing Pumpkins
201. Duran Duran
202. The Human League
203. Neil Diamond
204. The Monkees
205. Dusty Springfield
206. Alicia Keys
207. Rush
208. Destiny's Child
209. The Moody Blues
210. Sonic Youth
211. Chicago
212. Ice Cube
213. KISS
214. The Staple Singers
215. Blur
216. Usher
217. Björk
218. Arctic Monkeys
219. Chuck Willis
220. Little Willie John
221. Del Shannon
222. Nine Inch Nails
223. Rage Against the Machine
224. Motörhead
225. Def Leppard
226. Afrika Bambaataa & Soulsonic Force
227. Bon Jovi
228. The Cars
229. Bad Bunny
230. Kool & the Gang
231. Chubby Checker
232. The Strokes
233. T. Rex
234. Lionel Richie/Commodores
235. The Ventures
236. The Animals
237. Amy Winehouse
238. Ivory Joe Hunter
239. Tom Waits
240. Pretenders
241. Leonard Cohen
242. Frank Ocean
243. Beck
244. Massive Attack
245. Lou Reed
246. MC5
247. Hüsker Dü/Sugar
248. Jackson Browne
249. Pet Shop Boys
250. Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band
251. Phil Collins
252. Spice Girls
253. Sade
254. Ariana Grande
255. Nicki Minaj
256. Hall & Oates
257. Boyz II Men
258. Alanis Morissette
259. Olivia Rodrigo
260. Luther Vandross
261. Future
262. Billie Eilish
263. Lorde
264. War
265. Chaka Khan/Rufus
266. Annie Lennox/Eurythmics
267. Salt-N-Pepa
268. Peter Gabriel
269. The Righteous Brothers
270. Jethro Tull
271. Soundgarden
272. George Harrison
273. D'Angelo
274. Aaliyah
275. Electric Light Orchestra
276. New York Dolls
277. Arcade Fire
278. The (Young) Rascals
279. T.I.
280. Gene Vincent & the Blue Caps
281. The Marvelettes
282. Joe Tex
283. The Prodigy
284. Johnny Ace
285. Lloyd Price
286. Cher/Sonny & Cher
287. R. Kelly
288. The Lovin' Spoonful
289. The Spinners
290. Rick James
291. Gram Parsons/The Flying Burrito Bros
292. Barry White
293. Weezer
294. Gil Scott-Heron
295. Linda Ronstadt
296. Foo Fighters
297. The Shadows
298. Emerson, Lake & Palmer
299. Erykah Badu
300. Gary Numan/Tubeway Army
301. Toots & the Maytals
302. Television
303. Todd Rundgren (& related bands)
304. Slayer
305. Shakira
306. Jeff Beck
307. Jimmy Cliff
308. 50 Cent
309. Link Wray (& the Wraymen)
310. The Replacements
311. Boston
312. Cheap Trick
313. Harry Nilsson
314. Jesse Belvin/Jesse & Marvin
315. Buffalo Springfield
316. Devo
317. Ed Sheeran
318. Bruno Mars
319. Justin Bieber
320. Journey
321. John Mellencamp
322. ZZ Top
323. Bill Withers
324. Big Jay McNeely
325. The Moonglows
326. Duane Eddy
327. Alice in Chains
328. Gorillaz
329. The Offspring
330. Backstreet Boys
331. Heart
332. Cyndi Lauper
333. M.I.A.
334. Desmond Dekker & the Aces
335. Bryan Adams
336. Patti LaBelle/Labelle
337. Nelly
338. Kelly Clarkson
339. Christina Aguilera
340. Steve Miller Band
341. The Dells
342. The Spaniels
343. Faye Adams
344. Thin Lizzy
345. Judas Priest
346. Cliff Richard
347. Mötley Crüe
348. Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds/Grinderman
349. Tears for Fears
350. Korn
351. PJ Harvey
352. Robyn
353. SZA
354. Kylie Minogue
355. The Stone Roses
356. Big Star
357. P!nk
358. Tyler, the Creator
359. Suede
360. Jane's Addiction
361. Roberta Flack
362. INXS
363. The Doobie Brothers
364. Moby
365. The Verve
366. My Chemical Romance
367. The Chemical Brothers
368. Jan & Dean
369. Boogie Down Productions/KRS-One
370. The B-52's
371. En Vogue
372. Cypress Hill
373. Joe Cocker
374. Ozzy Osbourne
375. Cat Stevens
376. Randy Newman
377. Ritchie Valens
378. Dick Dale & the Del-Tones
379. No Doubt
380. blink-182
381. Scorpions
382. The Black Eyed Peas
383. BTS
384. Meat Loaf
385. Gloria Estefan/Miami Sound Machine
386. Anita Baker
387. Mary Wells
388. Charli XCX
389. Portishead
390. Fiona Apple
391. My Bloody Valentine
392. Jeff Buckley
393. Tame Impala
394. Tori Amos
395. Blue Öyster Cult
396. Wire
397. Cardi B
398. Go-Go's
399. Tracy Chapman
400. The Jam/The Style Council
401. Ice-T/Body Count
402. Shirley & Lee
403. The Dave Clark Five
404. Muse
405. The Hollies
406. The Stylistics
407. Janelle Monáe
408. Big Daddy Kane
409. Giorgio Moroder
410. Can
411. Fugazi
412. Linkin Park
413. Donovan
414. The Crystals
415. Steppenwolf
416. Doug E. Fresh & the Get Fresh Crew/Slick Rick
417. The Specials
418. Pavement
419. The Jesus and Mary Chain
420. (Small) Faces
421. Harold Melvin & the Blue Notes
422. One Direction
423. Sting
424. Queen Latifah
425. Screamin' Jay Hawkins
426. Suicide
427. Dead Kennedys
428. Professor Longhair
429. Lee "Scratch" Perry/The Upsetters
430. Siouxsie and the Banshees
431. The Killers
432. The Meters
433. Suzanne Vega
434. Belle and Sebastian
435. Black Flag
436. Gang of Four
437. Geto Boys/Scarface
438. Gwen Stefani
439. The Shangri-Las
440. Franz Ferdinand
441. Katy Perry
442. Gloria Gaynor
443. Love
444. Donny Hathaway
445. Laura Nyro
446. X
447. Foreigner
448. System of a Down
449. Megadeth
450. Tool
451. Peter Frampton
452. Travis Scott
453. Dua Lipa
454. New Edition
455. Carly Simon
456. The Roots
457. Bad Brains
458. Gary U.S. Bonds
459. Busta Rhymes
460. Avril Lavigne
461. Brandy
462. Chappell Roan
463. Simple Minds
464. Boy George/Culture Club
465. LCD Soundsystem
466. Bon Iver
467. Vampire Weekend
468. Supertramp
469. Gnarls Barkley
470. Johnny "Guitar" Watson
471. EPMD
472. The Sonics
473. Nelly Furtado
474. The Pointer Sisters
475. *NSYNC
476. DMX
477. Free/Bad Company
478. The Black Keys
479. Jack Scott
480. Tommy James & the Shondells
481. Ben E. King
482. Pulp
483. Larry Williams
484. The Chi-Lites
485. The Delfonics
486. Huey "Piano" Smith & the Clowns
487. Traffic
488. Sparks
489. Kurtis Blow
490. The Del-Vikings
491. Primal Scream
492. The Cadillacs
493. Nick Drake
494. Jr. Walker & the All Stars
495. Lee Dorsey
496. Ricky Martin
497. Ludacris
498. ABC
499. Lesley Gore
500. Simply Red

I think Wilco deserves a place back on the list. They're one spot above Ludacris and below LCD Soundsystem on the list of artists of the 2000s list. And that's not even counting their acclaimed albums from the 90s and 2010s.

Reckon we can combine Wilco with Uncle Tupelo for sake of this list?

Tim wrote: Sun Aug 09, 2026 2:36 pm Naughty by Nature
Ann Peebles
Lou Rawls
The Robins
Seal
The Shangri-Las
The Shins
Simply Red
The Skatalites
Slade

Not including the Robins
1. The Shangri-Las
2. Slade
3. Simply Red
4. Lou Rawls
5. Seal
6. Naughty By Nature
7. The Shins
8. Ann Peebles
9. The Skatalites

DmitryXenon wrote: Mon Aug 10, 2026 1:35 pm I think Wilco deserves a place back on the list. They're one spot above Ludacris and below LCD Soundsystem on the list of artists of the 2000s list. And that's not even counting their acclaimed albums from the 90s and 2010s.

LCD Soundsystem also have acclaimed albums outside of this time period. I'm not against adding Wilco back, though. Maybe they could be next to Pulp.

I'm against adding Simply Red. I think XTC and Procol Harum, who've already been removed from the list are both clearly more acclaimed and influential.