500 Greatest Movies of All Time (Revision Version)

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There are many inconsistencies like that on the two lists. I know they haven't done a full update with those films, but I see no reason not to wait for it, since it will probably be in a couple of months.
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On the old forums, I brought up adding The Magnificent Seven (1960) and Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi (1983) to this list. I believe that the consensus was against this, arguing that John Sturges was too undistinguished a director to have more than one film on the list (his The Great Escape [1963] already being on it) and that two Star Wars pictures was enough (even though all three Lord of the Rings pictures are on the list). For the sake of conversation, I'm going to, once again, put forth the argument that these two movies have what it takes to be on the main list.

Credentials for The Magnificent Seven (1960):
1. Although a remake of Seven Samurai (1954), this film, along with next year's The Guns of Navarone (1961), was instrumental in laying down the building blocks of the modern-style action-adventure picture in the West (no pun intended exactly). The macho men-on-a-mission movie with colorful characters cracking wise as they mow down waves of faceless baddies to incredible theme music arguably started here.
2. It was, at one point at least, the second-most-played movie on American television (after The Wizard of Oz [1939]).
3. Elmer Bernstein's Oscar-nominated musical score, which became the theme for Marlboro cigarettes for a while, is truly iconic, being ranked the eighth-best musical score for an American-made movie by the American Film Institute and practically becoming synonymous with the western genre (often being referenced in popular culture).
4. It was a critical launchpad for further success for many of the now-iconic cast members.
5. It's on the United States' National Film Registry.
6. It started a film series, inspired a T.V. show of the same name, and resulted in a remake.
7. It became the highest-grossing Hollywood movie in the Soviet Union at the time.
8. The Clash released as song titled "The Magnificent Seven."
9. The film's "Tomatometer" (critics' approval rating) is 89% on Rotten Tomatoes, with its "Popcornmeter" (audiences' approval rating) being 87% on Rotten Tomatoes
10. On the rank-every-movie-you've-ever-seen website FlickChart, it's ranked at #270 overall.
11. The American Film Institute's 100 Years...100 Thrills retrospective named it the #79th most exciting American-made movie of all time.
12. It has a 7.7 rating on IMDb, out of about 105,000 votes.

Credentials for Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi (1983):
1. It was the highest-grossing movie of 1983, with its per-theater-average in the United States on an inflation-adjusted basis not being beaten until Avengers: Endgame (2019).
2. It's on the United States' National Film Registry.
3. It introduced even more iconic Star Wars characters, such as Jabba the Hutt, the Ewoks, the Ian McDiarmid version of Emperor Palpatine, and Admiral Ackbar (who was a fan favorite even before the "It's a trap!" meme).
4. It was nominated for four regular Oscars (Best Art Direction, Best Original Score, Best Sound Effects Editing, and Best Sound), and won a special Oscar for Visual Effects.
5. It is probably mostly responsible for adding the "villain redemption trope" to the Star Wars franchise.
6. Its overall rank on FlickChart is a whopping #7.
7. For Rotten Tomatoes, its "Tomatometer" is 82%, while its "Popcornmeter" is 94%. The separate RT page for its 40th Anniversary re-release has its "Popcornmeter" being 99%, with no "Tomatometer" given.
8. Its rating on IMDb is 8.3 (making it #93 on that website's Top 250 of all time list) out of 1,200,000 votes, with it being the 54th-most-seen film on IMDb.
9. It was one of 400 American-made films to be on the ballot for the 1998 edition of the American Film Institute's 100 Years...100 Movies retrospective.
10. John Williams' musical score introduced several more tunes now famous to Star Wars fans.
11. The 40th anniversary theatrical re-release of the movie made it to #4 at the box office for the weekend.
12. The Star Wars franchise would continue on in a pretty healthy shape after its release.

Okay, I'm throwing one more film's hat into the ring: The Guns of Navarone (1961). I think it has a solid chance of meeting the list's criteria.

Credentials for The Guns of Navarone (1961):
1. Like the aforementioned The Magnificent Seven (1960), it was a critical entry into the modern-style action-adventure genre, playing an extremely important role in laying down the building blocks of that style. Two of the leading choices to play James Bond in Dr. No (1962) (David Niven and Stanley Baker) starred in this picture.
2. It was nominated for seven Oscars (Best Motion Picture, Best Director, Best Screenplay - Based on Material from Another Medium, Best Film Editing, Best Music Score of a Dramatic or Comedy Picture, Best Sound, and Best Special Effects), winning one (the Best Special Effects one).
3. It was nominated for three Golden Globes (Best Motion Picture - Drama, Best Director - Motion Picture, and Best Original Score - Motion Picture), winning two (the Best Motion Picture - Drama and Best Original Score - Motion Picture ones).
4. It had a sequel (Force 10 from Navarone [1978]).
5. It was ranked the #89th most exciting American-made movie as part of the American Film Institute's 100 Years...100 Thrills retrospective.
6. It was one of the first (if not the first) cinematic adaptations of an Alistair MacLean book, paving the way for the likes of The Satan Bug (1965), Ice Station Zebra (1968), Where Eagles Dare (1968), Breakheart Pass (1975), Force 10 from Navarone (1978), etc.
7. Dimitri Tiomkin's Oscar-nominated musical score is famous, with the main theme being covered by The Skatalites, Johnny Griffin, Al Ciaola, and Hollyridge Strings.
8. It has a 7.5 rating on IMDb, out of 57,000 votes.
9. Its overall ranking on FlickChart is #806.
10. It was the second-highest grossing movie of 1961.
11. On Rotten Tomatoes, its "Tomatometer" is 92% and its "Popcornmeter" is 86%.
12. It's occasionally referenced in popular culture (including in Pulp Fiction [1994]), with the "In popular culture" section of the movie's Wikipedia page listing some of these instances.

I don't know the criteria as well as some of you, but I think that these three credentials breakdowns make compelling cases for their respective inclusions.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that, on Empire's Top 500 Movies list, Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi is #91 and The Magnificent Seven is #217. The Guns of Navarone didn't make the list.
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All three are on their respective decade lists. Try to get them higher there first by comparing them with films you think they should be ahead of using the criteria. Mind that we are aware of their credentials, otherwise they wouldn't be on those lists.
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I could see Return of the Jedi a bit higher on the 80's list, but to get on the Top 500 list means we'd need to push it up a good 40+ slots on the 80's list, which I don't see as realistic.
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Comparing Return of the Jedi to The Last Crusade since they should have fairly similar credentials
Initial Acclaim: Return of the Jedi close
Lasting Critical Acclaim: The Last Crusade close
Lasting Audience Acclaim: close
Initial Popularity: Return of the Jedi
Lasting Popularity: Return of the Jedi fairly easily
Influence: close

Comparing it to Beverly Hills Cop
Initial Acclaim: close
Lasting Critical Acclaim: close
Lasting Audience Acclaim: Return of the Jedi fairly easily
Initial Popularity: Return of the Jedi
Lasting Popularity: Return of the Jedi fairly easily
Influence: Beverly Hills Cop

So, I too could see it a bit higher.
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Re: 500 Greatest Movies of All Time (Revision Version)

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A quick update I came up with, even before reading Man's response on Le Samourai.

1. The Godfather - Francis Ford Coppola (1972)
2. Citizen Kane - Orson Welles (1941)
3. 2001: A Space Odyssey - Stanley Kubrick (1968)
4. Seven Samurai - Akira Kurosawa (1954)
5. Psycho - Alfred Hitchcock (1960)
6. Star Wars - George Lucas (1977)
7. Battleship Potemkin - Sergei M. Eisenstein (1925)
8. The Wizard of Oz - Victor Fleming (1939)
9. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs - David Hand et al. (1937)
10. Jaws - Steven Spielberg (1975)
11. The Birth of a Nation - D. W. Griffith (1915)
12. Casablanca - Michael Curtiz (1942)
13. Vertigo - Alfred Hitchcock (1958)
14. Gone with the Wind - Victor Fleming (1939)
15. A Trip to the Moon - Georges Méliès (1902)
16. Singin' in the Rain - Stanley Donen & Gene Kelly (1952)
17. Apocalypse Now - Francis Ford Coppola (1979)
18. Lawrence of Arabia - David Lean (1962)
19. Pulp Fiction - Quentin Tarantino (1994)
20. The Godfather Part II - Francis Ford Coppola (1974)
21. Metropolis - Fritz Lang (1927)
22. City Lights - Charles Chaplin (1931)
23. Breathless - Jean-Luc Godard (1960)
24. Bicycle Thieves - Vittorio De Sica (1948)
25. Taxi Driver - Martin Scorsese (1976)
26. M - Fritz Lang (1931)
27. Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans - F. W. Murnau (1927)
28. Rear Window - Alfred Hitchcock (1954)
29. Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb - Stanley Kubrick (1964)
30. Rashōmon - Akira Kurosawa (1950)
31. Raiders of the Lost Ark - Steven Spielberg (1981)
32. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly - Sergio Leone (1966)
33. Modern Times - Charles Chaplin (1936)
34. The Passion of Joan of Arc - Carl Theodor Dreyer (1927)
35. The Searchers - John Ford (1956)
36. 8½ - Federico Fellini (1963)
37. 12 Angry Men - Sidney Lumet (1957)
38. It's a Wonderful Life - Frank Capra (1946)
39. Stagecoach - John Ford (1939)
40. The Empire Strikes Back - Irvin Kershner (1980)
41. Some Like It Hot - Billy Wilder (1959)
42. North by Northwest - Alfred Hitchcock (1959)
43. Toy Story - John Lasseter (1995)
44. The Exorcist - William Friedkin (1973)
45. Schindler's List - Steven Spielberg (1993)
46. Alien - Ridley Scott (1979)
47. The Gold Rush - Charles Chaplin (1925)
48. Intolerance - D. W. Griffith (1916)
49. E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial - Steven Spielberg (1982)
50. The Graduate - Mike Nichols (1967)
51. The 400 Blows - François Truffaut (1959)
52. Tokyo Story - Yasujirō Ozu (1953)
53. Bonnie and Clyde - Arthur Penn (1967)
54. The Rules of the Game - Jean Renoir (1939)
55. The Terminator - James Cameron (1984)
56. GoodFellas - Martin Scorsese (1990)
57. Sunset Boulevard - Billy Wilder (1950)
58. Blade Runner - Ridley Scott (1982)
59. Raging Bull - Martin Scorsese (1980)
60. A Clockwork Orange - Stanley Kubrick (1971)
61. Goldfinger - Guy Hamilton (1964)
62. The Matrix - Lana & Lilly Wachowski (1999)
63. The Third Man - Carol Reed (1949)
64. One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest - Miloš Forman (1975)
65. The Kid - Charles Chaplin (1921)
66. Pather Panchali - Satyajit Ray (1955)
67. Do the Right Thing - Spike Lee (1989)
68. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King - Peter Jackson (2003)
69. Spirited Away - Hayao Miyazaki (2001)
70. Double Indemnity - Billy Wilder (1944)
71. Once upon a Time in the West - Sergio Leone (1968)
72. King Kong - Merian C. Cooper & Ernest B. Schoedsack (1933)
73. Persona - Ingmar Bergman (1966)
74. La dolce vita - Federico Fellini (1960)
75. Rome, Open City - Roberto Rossellini (1945)
76. On the Waterfront - Elia Kazan (1954)
77. Chinatown - Roman Polański (1974
78. The Silence of the Lambs - Jonathan Demme (1991)
79. The Deer Hunter - Michael Cimino (1978)
80. The Great Dictator - Charles Chaplin (1940)
81. It Happened One Night - Frank Capra (1934)
82. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring - Peter Jackson (2001)
83. Back to the Future - Robert Zemeckis (1985)
84. Night of the Living Dead - George A. Romero (1968)
85. The Bridge on the River Kwai - David Lean (1957)
86. The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari - Robert Wiene (1920)
87. The Maltese Falcon - John Huston (1941)
88. Fantasia - Ben Sharpsteen et al. (1940)
89. Midnight Cowboy - John Schlesinger (1969)
90. Ben-Hur - William Wyler (1959)
91. The Seventh Seal - Ingmar Bergman (1957)
92. Man with a Movie Camera - Dziga Vertov (1929)
93. The Dark Knight - Christopher Nolan (2008)
94. Forrest Gump - Robert Zemeckis (1994)
95. Rocky - John G. Avildsen (1976)
96. Halloween - John Carpenter (1978)
97. To Kill a Mockingbird - Robert Mulligan (1962)
98. Annie Hall - Woody Allen (1977)
99. The Apartment - Billy Wilder (1960)
100. The Shawshank Redemption - Frank Darabont (1994)
101. Frankenstein - James Whale (1931)
102. All About Eve - Joseph L. Mankiewicz (1950)
103. Die Hard - John McTiernan (1988)
104. The Grand Illusion - Jean Renoir (1937)
105. My Neighbor Totoro - Hayao Miyazaki (1988)
106. Nosferatu - F. W. Murnau (1922)
107. Mulholland Dr. - David Lynch (2001)
108. Blue Velvet - David Lynch (1986)
109. High Noon - Fred Zinnemann (1952)
110. The Sound of Music - Robert Wise (1965)
111. The Treasure of the Sierra Madre - John Huston (1948)
112. The Best Years of Our Lives - William Wyler (1946)
113. The General - Buster Keaton & Clyde Bruckman (1926)
114. West Side Story - Robert Wise & Jerome Robbins (1961)
115. Touch of Evil - Orson Welles (1958)
116. A Streetcar Named Desire - Elia Kazan (1951)
117. Saving Private Ryan - Steven Spielberg (1998)
118. Titanic - James Cameron (1997)
119. Un chien andalou - Luis Buñuel (1929)
120. Children of Paradise - Marcel Carné (1945)
121. The Wild Bunch - Sam Peckinpah (1969)
122. La strada - Federico Fellini (1954)
123. Close Encounters of the Third Kind - Steven Spielberg (1977)
124. Parasite - Bong Joon-Ho (2019)
125. Avatar - James Cameron (2009)
126. Jurassic Park - Steven Spielberg (1993)
127. The Shining - Stanley Kubrick (1980)
128. Rebel Without a Cause - Nicholas Ray (1955)
129. Superman - Richard Donner (1978)
130. L'arrivée d'un train en gare de La Ciotat - Louis & Auguste Lumière (1896)
131. Notorious - Alfred Hitchcock (1946)
132. The French Connection - William Friedkin (1971)
133. The Texas Chain Saw Massacre - Tobe Hooper (1974)
134. Mr. Smith Goes to Washington - Frank Capra (1939)
135. Dr. No - Terence Young (1962)
136. Blow-Up - Michelangelo Antonioni (1966)
137. Paths of Glory - Stanley Kubrick (1957)
138. Rio Bravo - Howard Hawks (1959)
139. The Grapes of Wrath - John Ford (1940)
140. Fargo - Joel & Ethan Coen (1996)
141. Terminator 2: Judgment Day - James Cameron (1991)
142. Unforgiven - Clint Eastwood (1992)
143. Rosemary's Baby - Roman Polański (1968)
144. Aliens - James Cameron (1986)
145. Sherlock Jr. - Buster Keaton (1924)
146. Workers Leaving the Lumière Factory - Louis Lumière (1895)
147. Fight Club - David Fincher (1999)
148. There Will Be Blood - Paul Thomas Anderson (2007)
149. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind - Michel Gondry (2004)
150. Duck Soup - Leo McCarey (1933)
151. Amadeus - Miloš Forman (1984)
152. The Birds - Alfred Hitchcock (1963)
153. All Quiet on the Western Front - Lewis Milestone (1930)
154. The Night of the Hunter - Charles Laughton (1955)
155. Safety Last! - Fred C. Newmeyer & Sam Taylor (1924)
156. Nanook of the North - Robert J. Flaherty (1922)
157. Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? - Mike Nicholas (1966)
158. Scarface - Brian De Palma (1983)
159. Batman - Tim Burton (1989)
160. Reservoir Dogs - Quentin Tarantino (1992)
161. Enter the Dragon - Robert Clouse (1973)
162. Dawn of the Dead - George A. Romero (1978)
163. The Red Shoes - Michael Powell & Emeric Pressburger (1948)
164. Stalker - Andrei Tarkovsky (1979)
165. Pinocchio - Hamilton Luske, Ben Sharpsteen et al. (1940)
166. Rebecca - Alfred Hitchcock (1940)
167. Bride of Frankenstein - James Whale (1935)
168. Invasion of the Body Snatchers - Don Siegel (1956)
169. Wild Strawberries - Ingmar Bergman (1957)
170. City of God - Fernando Meirelles & Kátia Lund (2002)
171. Trainspotting - Danny Boyle (1996)
172. The Lion King - Roger Allers & Rob Minkoff (1994)
173. Barry Lyndon - Stanley Kubrick (1975)
174. Bringing Up Baby - Howard Hawks (1938)
175. Aguirre: The Wrath of God - Werner Herzog (1972)
176. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid - George Roy Hill (1969)
177. The Adventures of Robin Hood - Michael Curtiz & William Keighley (1938)
178. Monty Python and the Holy Grail - Terry Gilliam & Terry Jones (1975)
179. WALL·E - Andrew Stanton (2008)
180. Inception - Christopher Nolan (2010)
181. Godzilla - Ishirō Honda (1954)
182. Mad Max: Fury Road - George Miller (2015)
183. M*A*S*H - Robert Altman (1970)
184. Mary Poppins - Robert Stevenson (1964)
185. Ikiru - Akira Kurosawa (1952)
186. The Social Network - David Fincher (2010)
187. The Big Parade - King Vidor (1925)
188. No Country for Old Men - Joel & Ethan Coen (2007)
189. American Graffiti - George Lucas (1973)
190. The Jazz Singer - Alan Crosland (1927)
191. Dracula - Tod Browning (1931)
192. His Girl Friday - Howard Hawks (1940)
193. The Philadelphia Story - George Cukor (1940)
194. Ugetsu - Kenji MIzoguchi (1953)
195. Roman Holiday - William Wyler (1953)
196. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon - Ang Lee (2000)
197. A Fistful of Dollars - Sergio Leone (1964)
198. A Hard Day's Night - Richard Lester (1964)
199. Napoléon - Abel Gance (1927)
200. Greed - Erich von Stroheim (1924)
201. In the Heat of the NIght - Norman Jewison (1967)
202. Easy Rider - Dennis Hopper (1969)
203. The Crowd - King Vidor (1928)
204. Steamboat Willie - Walt Disney & Ub Iwerks (1928)
205. L'avventura - Michelangelo Antonioni (1960)
206. Get Out - Jordan Peele (2017)
207. Scarface - Howard Hawks (1932)
208. The Avengers - Joss Whedon (2012)
209. The Battle of Algiers - Gillo Pontecorvo (1966)
210. The Wages of Fear - Henri-Georges Clouzot (1953)
211. Dirty Harry - Don Siegel (1971)
212. Ghostbusters - Ivan Reitman (1984)
213. American Beauty - Sam Mendes (1999)
214. The Asphalt Jungle - John Huston (1950)
215. Network - Sidney Lumet (1976)
216. Breakfast at Tiffany's - Blake Edwards (1961)
217. Pan's Labyrinth - Guillermo del Toro (2006)
218. Cabaret - Bob Fosse (1972)
219. Brief Encounter - David Lean (1945)
220. Out of the Past - Jacques Tourneur (1947)
221. The Public Enemy - William A. Wellman (1931)
222. Airplane! - Jerry Zucker, Jim Abrahams & David Zucker (1980)
223. Se7en - David Fincher (1995)
224. Brokeback Mountain - Ang Lee (2005)
225. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers - Peter Jackson (2002)
226. Andrei Rublev - Andrei Tarkovsky (1966)
227. Yojimbo - Akira Kurosawa (1961)
228. The Last Laugh - F. W. Murnau (1924)
229. Hiroshima mon amour - Alain Resnais (1959)
230. The Usual Suspects - Bryan Singer (1995)
231. Finding Nemo - Andrew Stanton & Lee Unkrich (2003)
232. The Thing - John Carpenter (1982)
233. Manhattan - Woody Allen (1979)
234. Boyhood - Richard Linklater (2014)
235. Mean Streets - Martin Scorsese (1973)
236. Carrie - Brian De Palma (1976)
237. Akira - Katsuhiro Ōtomo (1988)
238. Gladiator - Ridley Scott (2000)
239. Ran - Akira Kurosawa (1985)
240. Once upon a Time in America - Sergio Leone (1984)
241. Beauty and the Beast - Jean Cocteau (1946)
242. Meet Me in St. Louis - Vincente Minnelli (1944)
243. Beauty and the Beast - Gary Trousdale & Kirk Wise (1991)
244. To Be or Not to Be - Ernst Lubitsch (1942)
245. Our Hospitality - Buster Keaton & John G. Blystone (1923)
246. Freaks - Tod Browning (1932)
247. Memento - Christopher Nolan (2000)
248. The Manchurian Candidate - John Frankenheimer (1962)
249. Nashville - Robert Altman (1975)
250. Oppenheimer - Christopher Nolan (2023)
251. The Ten Commandments - Cecil B. DeMille (1956)
252. Das Boot - Wolfgang Petersen (1981)
253. Contempt - Jean-Luc Godard (1963)
254. A Woman Under the Influence - John Cassavetes (1974)
255. Dog Day Afternoon - Sidney Lumet (1975)
256. Oldboy - Park Chan-Wook (2003)
257. Cool Hand Luke - Stuart Rosenberg (1967)
258. The Thin Man - W. S. Van Dyke (1934)
259. This Is Spinal Tap - Rob Reiner (1984)
260. Shane - George Stevens (1953)
261. Laura - Otto Preminger (1944)
262. Les diaboliques - Henri-Georges Clouzot (1955)
263. Le samouraï - Jean-Pierre Melville (1967)
264. Days of Heaven - Terrence Malick (1978)
265. All the President's Men - Alan J. Pakula (1976)
266. Dr. Mabuse the Gambler, Part 1: The Great Gambler - Fritz Lang (1922)
267. Repulsion - Roman Polański (1965)
268. Doctor Zhivago - David Lean (1965)
269. Gravity - Alfonso Cuarón (2013)
270. Inglourious Basterds - Quentin Tarantino (2009)
271. In the Mood for Love - Wong Kar-Wai (2000)
272. The Conformist - Bernardo Bertolucci (1970)
273. Raise the Red Lantern - Zhang Yimou (1991)
274. Jules and Jim - François Truffaut (1962)
275. Make Way for Tomorrow - Leo McCarey (1937)
276. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance - John Ford (1962)
277. Häxan - Benjamin Christensen (1922)
278. My Darling Clementine - John Ford (1946)
279. Top Hat - Mark Sandrich (1935)
280. Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior - George Miller (1981)
281. A Man Escaped - Robert Bresson (1956)
282. The Phantom Carriage - Victor Sjöström (1921)
283. Last Year at Marienbad - Alain Resnais (1961)
284. The Last Picture Show - Peter Bogdanovich (1971)
285. The Blue Angel - Josef von Sternberg (1930)
286. A Matter of Life and Death - Michael Powell & Emeric Pressburger (1946)
287. The Big Sleep - Howard Hawks (1946)
288. The Elephant Man - David Lynch (1980)
289. L.A. Confidential - Curtis Hanson (1997)
290. Boyz n the Hood - John Singleton (1991)
291. Anatomy of a Murder - Otto Preminger (1959)
292. Sanshō the Bailiff - Kenji Mizoguchi (1954)
293. The Sting - George Roy Hill (1973)
294. Viridiana - Luis Buñuel (1961)
295. Brazil - Terry Gilliam (1985)
296. The Truman Show - Peter Weir (1998)
297. Heat - Michael Mann (1995)
298. Jeanne Dielman, 23 quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles - Chantal Akerman (1975)
299. Young Frankenstein - Mel Brooks (1974)
300. Moonlight - Barry Jenkins (2016)
301. A Separation - Asghar Farhadi (2011)
302. Wings - William A. Wellman (1927)
303. Red River - Howard Hawks (1948)
304. Spartacus - Stanley Kubrick (1960)
305. The Conversation - Francis Ford Coppola (1974)
306. From Here to Eternity - Fred Zinnemann (1953)
307. Who Framed Roger Rabbit - Robert Zemeckis (1988)
308. Groundhog Day - Harold Ramis (1993)
309. The Invisible Man - James Whale (1933)
310. Patton - Franklin J. Schaffner (1970)
311. Planet of the Apes - Franklin J. Schaffner (1968)
312. L'Atalante - Jean Vigo (1934)
313. Cat on a Hot Tin Roof - Richard Brooks (1958)
314. Shoah - Claude Lanzmann (1985)
315. Cinema Paradiso - Giuseppe Tornatore (1988)
316. Kind Hearts and Coronets - Robert Hamer (1949)
317. Three Colours: Red - Krzysztof Kieślowski (1994)
318. Trouble in Paradise - Ernst Lubitsch (1932)
319. The Phantom of the Opera - Rupert Julian (1925)
320. Last Tango in Paris - Bernardo Bertolucci (1972)
321. The African Queen - John Huston (1951)
322. The Great Train Robbery - Edwin S. Porter (1903)
323. Toy Story 3 - Lee Unkrich (2010)
324. Up - Pete Docter & Bob Peterson (2009)
325. Platoon - Oliver Stone (1986)
326. The Sixth Sense - M. Night Shyamalan (1999)
327. Au hasard Balthazar - Robert Bresson (1966)
328. The Lives of Others - Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck (2006)
329. The Pianist - Roman Polański (2002)
330. Life Is Beautiful - Roberto Benigni (1997)
331. Strangers on the Train - Alfred Hitchcock (1951)
332. Paris, Texas - Wim Wenders (1984)
333. Full Metal Jacket - Stanley Kubrick (1987)
334. Z - Costa-Gavras (1969)
335. Black Narcissus - Michael Powell & Emeric Pressburger (1947)
336. Fanny and Alexander - Ingmar Bergman (1982)
337. White Heat - Raoul Walsh (1949)
338. Late Spring - Yasujirō Ozu (1949)
339. Wings of Desire - Wim Wenders (1987)
340. Sweet Smell of Success - Alexander Mackendrick (1957)
341. Monty Python's Life of Brian - Terry Jones (1979)
342. Imitation of Life - Douglas Sirk (1959)
343. Solaris - Andrei Tarkovsky (1972)
344. L'âge d'or - Luis Buñuel (1930)
345. Ninotchka - Ernst Lubitsch (1939)
346. Badlands - Terrence Malick (1973)
347. The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse - Rex Ingram (1921)
348. I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang - Mervyn LeRoy (1932)
349. Love Me Tonight - Rouben Mamoulian (1932)
350. Edward Scissorhands - Tim Burton (1990)
351. Aladdin - John Musker & Ron Clements (1992)
352. My Fair Lady - George Cukor (1964)
353. Cabiria - Giovanni Pastrone (1914)
354. The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp - Michael Powell & Emeric Pressburger (1943)
355. Bambi - David Hand et al. (1942)
356. 42nd Street - Lloyd Bacon (1933)
357. Million Dollar Baby - Clint Eastwood (2004)
358. Stranger than Paradise - Jim Jarmusch (1984)
359. Amélie - Jean-Pierre Jeunet (2001)
360. Pandora's Box - G. W. Pabst (1929)
361. Los olvidados - Luis Buñuel (1950)
362. Inside Out - Pete Docter & Ronnie del Carmen (2015)
363. La La Land - Damien Chazelle (2016)
364. Kramer vs. Kramer - Robert Benton (1979)
365. From Russia with Love - Terence Young (1963)
366. The Hustler - Robert Rossen (1961)
367. The Quiet Man - John Ford (1952)
368. The 39 Steps - Alfred Hitchcock (1939)
369. A Night at the Opera - Sam Wood (1935)
370. The Thief of Bagdad - Michael Powell, Ludwig Berger & Tim Whelan (1940)
371. Ben-Hur: A Tale of the Christ - Fred Niblo (1925)
372. Dances with Wolves - Kevin Costner (1990)
373. The Princess Bride - Rob Reiner (1987)
374. The Breakfast Club - John Hughes (1985)
375. National Lampoon's Animal House - John Landis (1978)
376. 12 Years a Slave - Steve McQueen (2013)
377. The Thief of Bagdad - Raoul Walsh (1924)
378. L'arroseur arrosé - Louis Lumière (1895)
379. Saturday Night Fever - John Badham (1977)
380. Grave of the Fireflies - Isao Takahata (1988)
381. The Ox-Bow Incident - William A. Wellman (1942)
382. Close-Up - Abbas Kiarostami (1990)
383. Breaking the Waves - Lars von Trier (1996)
384. Lost in Translation - Sofia Coppola (2003)
385. Boogie Nights - Paul Thomas Anderson (1997)
386. Elevator to the Gallows - Louis Malle (1958)
387. The Umbrellas of Cherbourg - Jacques Demy (1964)
388. Princess Mononoke - Hayao Miyazaki (1997)
389. The Lost Weekend - Billy Wilder (1945)
390. Cat People - Jacques Tourneur (1942)
391. The Incredibles - Brad Bird (2004)
392. The Great Escape - John Sturges (1963)
393. Bullitt - Peter Yates (1968)
394. An American in Paris - Vincente Minnelli (1951)
395. The Day the Earth Stood Still - Robert Wise (1951)
396. Dr. Mabuse the Gambler, Part 2: Inferno - Fritz Lang (1922)
397. The Rocky Horror Picture Show - Jim Sharman (1975)
398. The Mirror - Andrei Tarkovsky (1975)
399. My Man Godfrey - Gregory La Cava (1936)
400. Pierrot le fou - Jean-Luc Godard (1965)
401. The Jungle Book - Wolfgang Reitherman (1967)
402. Gertie the Dinosaur - Winsor McCay (1914)
403. The Circus - Charles Chaplin (1928)
404. Mildred Pierce - Michael Curtiz (1945)
405. Amarcord - Federico Fellini (1973)
406. Dracula - Terence Fisher (1958)
407. Throne of Blood - Akira Kurosawa (1957)
408. Don't Look Now - Nicolas Roeg (1973)
409. The Big Lebowski - Joel & Ethan Coen (1998)
410. Come and See - Elem Klimov (1985)
411. Barbie - Greta Gerwig (2023)
412. Rope - Alfred Hitchcock (1948)
413. Mutiny on the Bounty - Frank Lloyd (1935)
414. The Magnificent Ambersons - Orson Welles (1942)
415. Gandhi - Richard Attenborough (1982)
416. Three Colours: Blue - Krzysztof Kieślowski (1993)
417. Chimes at Midnight - Orson Welles (1965)
418. Nights of Cabiria - Federico Fellini (1957)
419. The Producers - Mel Brooks (1967)
420. The Leopard - Luchino Visconti (1963)
421. Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse - Bob Persichetti, Peter Ramsey & Rodney Rothman (2018)
422. The Departed - Martin Scorsese (2006)
423. The Tree of Life - Terrence Malick (2011)
424. Caché - Michael Haneke (2005)
425. Talk to Her - Pedro Almodóvar (2002)
426. The Piano - Jane Campion (1993)
427. Rififi - Jules Dassin (1955)
428. The Shop Around the Corner - Ernst Lubitsch (1940)
429. The Lady Eve - Preston Sturges (1941)
430. Broken Blossoms - D. W. Griffith (1919)
431. Grease - Randal Kleiser (1978)
432. Tootsie - Sydney Pollack (1982)
433. The Evil Dead - Sam Raimi (1981)
434. Peeping Tom - Michael Powell (1960)
435. Tillie's Punctured Romance - Mack Sennett (1914)
436. Night and Fog - Alain Resnais (1956)
437. Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde - Rouben Mamoulian (1931)
438. East of Eden - Elia Kazan (1955)
439. Forbidden Planet - Fred M. Wilcox (1956)
440. Stand by Me - Rob Reiner (1986)
441. Amour - Michael Haneke (2012)
442. Birdman or (The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance) - Alejandro González Iñárritu (2014)
443. Mr. Deeds Goes to Town - Frank Capra (1936)
444. McCabe and Mrs. Miller - Robert Altman (1971)
445. The Awful Truth - Leo McCarey (1937)
446. The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie - Luis Buñuel (1972)
447. Cries and Whispers - Ingmar Bergman (1972)
448. Roma - Alfonso Cuarón (2018)
449. The Cameraman - Buster Keaton & Edward Sedgwick (1928)
450. Dune: Part Two - Denis Villeneuve (2024)
451. Dune - Denis Villeneuve (2021)
452. The Hurt Locker - Kathryn Bigelow (2009)
453. Magnolia - Paul Thomas Anderson (1999)
454. Mad Max - George Miller (1979)
455. Letter from an Unknown Woman - Max Ophüls (1948)
456. In a Lonely Place - Nicholas Ray (1950)
457. Eraserhead - David Lynch (1977)
458. Belle de jour - Luis Buñuel (1967)
459. Kiss Me Deadly - Robert Aldrich (1955)
460. Suspiria - Dario Argento (1977)
461. Ordet - Carl Theodor Dreyer (1955)
462. Playtime - Jacques Tati (1967)
463. Pickpocket - Robert Bresson (1959)
464. Ivan the Terrible, Part 1 - Sergei M. Eisenstein (1944)
465. Shadow of a Doubt - Alfred Hitchcock (1943)
466. Harold and Maude - Hal Ashby (1971)
467. Dead Poets Society - Peter Weir (1989)
468. The Thin Red Line - Terrence Malick (1998)
469. Ali: Fear Eats the Soul - Rainer Werner Fassbinder (1974)
470. All About My Mother - Pedro Almodóvar (1999)
471. To Have and Have Not - Howard Hawks (1944)
472. How Green Was My Valley - John Ford (1941)
473. The Impossible Voyage - Georges Méliès (1904)
474. When Harry Met Sally... - Rob Reiner (1989)
475. Meshes of the Afternoon - Maya Deren & Alexander Hammid (1943)
476. Requiem for a Dream - Darren Aronofsky (2000)
477. Anora - Sean Baker (2024)
478. Everything Everywhere All at Once - Daniel Kwan & Daniel Scheinert (2022)
479. Ferris Bueller's Day Off - John Hughes (1986)
480. Blazing Saddles - Mel Brooks (1974)
481. Sullivan's Travels - Preston Sturges (1941)
482. The Grand Budapest Hotel - Wes Anderson (2014)
483. Roundhay Garden Scene - Louis Le Prince (1888)
484. Little Caesar - Mervyn LeRoy (1931)
485. Django Unchained - Quentin Tarantino (2012)
486. RoboCop - Paul Verhoeven (1987)
487. Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind - Hayao Miyazaki (1984)
488. A Star Is Born - George Cukor (1954)
489. Mr. Hulot's Holiday - Jacques Tati (1953)
490. Being John Malkovich - Spike Jonze (1999)
491. Slumdog Millionaire - Danny Boyle (2008)
492. Braveheart - Mel Gibson (1995)
493. Amores perros - Alejandro González Iñárritu (2000)
494. A Nightmare on Elm Street - Wes Craven (1984)
495. Killer of Sheep - Charles Burnett (1978)
496. Ratatouille - Brad Bird (2007)
497. Johnny Guitar - Nicholas Ray (1954)
498. 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea - Richard Fleischer (1954)
499. Alexander Nevsky - Sergei M. Eisenstein & Dmitri Vasilyev (1938)
500. Triumph of the Will - Leni Riefenstahl (1935)

Out:

On the Town - Stanley Donen & Gene Kelly (1949)
The Spirit of the Beehive - Víctor Erice (1973)
Rain Man - Barry Levinson (1988)
Ashes and Diamonds - Andrzej Wajda (1958)
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Why Jaws above Casablanca??
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More influence and arguably more popularity as well, and it's not like Jaws isn't very acclaimed in its own right.
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My thoughts on this

- I really like the Jaws and Matrix jumps. I could see The Matrix even higher honestly. When compared with Goldfinger, The Matrix clearly takes acclaim, Goldfinger takes influence, but a bit less easily in my opinion, and The Matrix might take popularity as well. I'd give it popularity and influence over Raging Bull, both wins being pretty clear cut. I'd have The Matrix right ahead of The Terminator, as The Matrix takes popularity and acclaim while The Terminator takes influence, all wins being clear but none being particularly huge.

- Moving up Forrest Gump didn't seem right on first glance, but I guess it's hard to argue that it doesn't take acclaim and popularity over Rocky and Halloween while having some clear influence on visual effects.

- I'm good with moving Avatar up, but that change seems a bit lofty since Jurassic Park would definitely seem to take acclaim while popularity and influence are close (and I think Jurassic Park probably takes influence as well). I also think The Texas Chain Saw Massacre takes acclaim and influence. I'd say Avatar should be at #134, right ahead of Dr. No.

- However, I don't think Avatar should be ahead of Terminator 2, which takes acclaim and influence over it. It's cited as possibly the most influential film on the implementation of CGI in film. I'd say it should be back to back with Jurassic Park, with Terminator taking influence, Jurassic Park taking popularity, and acclaim being close.

- I support Oppenheimer being on the list somewhere but, until we let its legacy settle a bit, that position seems rather lofty, especially considering that the film actually moved down on the last TSPDT 21st century update. I'd have it around where EEAAO is.

- I'd have Le Samourai slightly higher. I'd give it popularity and influence over Contempt and A Woman Under the Influence. It takes acclaim, and, I'd argue, influence over The Ten Commandments. When compared with Nashville, I'd give it influence, Nashville acclaim, while popularity is close.

- I support moving up Paris, Texas and I like where you moved it as well.

- Not sure about adding Anora or Barbie. I think a newer film on the list should clearly be among the top 10 most acclaimed and popularity and I don't think Anora is clearly at that level of popularity. For Barbie, I don't think it beats, for example, Being John Malkovich, which would seem to take acclaim and influence (as Kaufman's breakthrough), Ratatouille, which clearly takes acclaim and is hardly far behind in popularity, or Alexander Nevsky which would seem to take acclaim and influence. On the Town and Ashes and Diamonds seem to win those categories as well. As Fido (fairly reasonably pointed out), it might not even beat Top Gun: Maverick.

I guess for now I think the 2020s films on the list should look like this:

1. Dune: Part Two
2. Dune
3. Oppenheimer
4. EEAAO

- The Truman Show is now the 6th most watched film of all time on Letterboxd and 2nd for its decade. Additionally, quite a few films in recent years (Barbie, Wicked, Free Guy) have sighted the film as a direct influence, which would seem to indiciate that its credentials have improved in several ways.

Some breakdowns

vs L.A. Confidential
Acclaim: L.A. Confidential close
Popularity: Truman Show, less close
Influence: Leaning towards Truman Show

vs Inglourious Basterds
Acclaim: IB close
Popularity: Truman Show close
Influence: Truman Show

vs Gravity
Acclaim: close
Popularity: Truman Show close
Influence: Leaning towards Truman Show

vs The Thin Man
Acclaim: Truman Show
Popularity: Truman Show fairly easily
Influence: The Thin Man fairly easily

vs Oldboy
Acclaim: Oldboy
Popularity: The Truman Show fairly easily
Influence: Leaning towards Oldboy

vs Das Boot
Acclaim: leaning towards Das Boot
Popularity: Truman Show fairly easily
Influence: Das Boot

vs The Ten Commandments
Acclaim: Leaning towards Truman Show
Popularity: Close
Influence: The Ten Commandments

- Princess Mononoke could use a pretty large boost imo. It's acclaim and popularity have increased a fair amount in recent years while it's also arguably Miyazaki's most influential film being widely cited as a milestone in Anime's popular and critical recognition. Also cited as an influence on Avatar for whatever that's worth.

Some breakdowns with films from the same year
vs Boogie Nights
Acclaim: Boogie Nights close
Popularity: Princess Mononoke less close
Influence: Leaning towards Princess Mononoke

vs Life is Beautiful
Acclaim: Princess Mononoke close
Popularity: Close
Influence: Princess Mononoke

vs L.A. Confidential
Acclaim: close (initial: L.A. Confidential, lasting: Princess Mononoke)
Popularity: Princess Monononoke
Influence: Princess Mononoke

vs Raise the Red Lantern
Acclaim: Raise the Red Lantern
Popularity: Princess Mononoke by a landslide
Influence: Raise the Red Lantern close

vs Beauty and the Beast (the disney one)
Acclaim: Princess Mononoke
Popularity: Beauty and the Beast
Influence: Beauty and the Beast

- It seems like Dead Poets Society has had a resurgence in popularity in recent years to the point that it's the 2nd most watched film from the 1980s on Letterboxd. I'd say it's more popular and acclaimed than say, Grease or the Evil Dead. I think it's more popular than Gandhi, while acclaim and influence are close. It seems very comparable with Breakfast Club/Princess Bride/Animal House so I'd have it near those films.

- Also, not to rehash old debates, but, in retrospect, I see little justification for Birdman being ahead of, say, How Green Was My Valley, When Harry Met Sally, Ferris Bueller's Day Off, Blazing Saddles, Robocop, The Grand Budapest Hotel, Mr. Hulot's Holiday, Slumdog Millionaire, Ratatouille, I could go on. I realize this means changing the 2010s list as well.


Breaking down some of these matchups to prove my point
vs How Green Was My Valley
Initial Acclaim: Pretty close, I guess, leaning towards HGWMV
Lasting Critical Acclaim: HGWMV fairly easily
Lasting Audience Acclaim: Close
Initial Popularity: How Green Was My Valley easily
Lasting Popularity: Hard to define, but also leaning towards How Green Was My Valley
Influence: Birdman, I guess, but its influence seems minor at best

vs Ferris Bueller's Day Off
Initial Acclaim: Birdman fairly easily
Lasting Critical Acclaim: FBDO
Lasting Audience Acclaim: close
Initial Popularity: FBDO
Lasting Popularity: FBDO easily
Influence: seems close

vs Robocop
Acclaim: Close, leaning towards Birdman (initial: Birdman, lasting: RoboCop)
Popularity: RoboCop
Influence: RoboCop

In terms of other 2010s films, I think Black Swan or Wolf of Wall Street would be worthy replacements for Birdman.
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Wanna revise my revision yourself, Man?
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1. The Godfather - Francis Ford Coppola (1972)
2. Citizen Kane - Orson Welles (1941)
3. 2001: A Space Odyssey - Stanley Kubrick (1968)
4. Seven Samurai - Akira Kurosawa (1954)
5. Psycho - Alfred Hitchcock (1960)
6. Star Wars - George Lucas (1977)
7. Battleship Potemkin - Sergei M. Eisenstein (1925)
8. The Wizard of Oz - Victor Fleming (1939)
9. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs - David Hand et al. (1937)
10. Jaws - Steven Spielberg (1975)
11. The Birth of a Nation - D. W. Griffith (1915)
12. Casablanca - Michael Curtiz (1942)
13. Vertigo - Alfred Hitchcock (1958)
14. Gone with the Wind - Victor Fleming (1939)
15. A Trip to the Moon - Georges Méliès (1902)
16. Singin' in the Rain - Stanley Donen & Gene Kelly (1952)
17. Apocalypse Now - Francis Ford Coppola (1979)
18. Lawrence of Arabia - David Lean (1962)
19. Pulp Fiction - Quentin Tarantino (1994)
20. The Godfather Part II - Francis Ford Coppola (1974)
21. Metropolis - Fritz Lang (1927)
22. City Lights - Charles Chaplin (1931)
23. Breathless - Jean-Luc Godard (1960)
24. Bicycle Thieves - Vittorio De Sica (1948)
25. Taxi Driver - Martin Scorsese (1976)
26. M - Fritz Lang (1931)
27. Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans - F. W. Murnau (1927)
28. Rear Window - Alfred Hitchcock (1954)
29. Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb - Stanley Kubrick (1964)
30. Rashōmon - Akira Kurosawa (1950)
31. Raiders of the Lost Ark - Steven Spielberg (1981)
32. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly - Sergio Leone (1966)
33. Modern Times - Charles Chaplin (1936)
34. The Passion of Joan of Arc - Carl Theodor Dreyer (1927)
35. The Searchers - John Ford (1956)
36. 8½ - Federico Fellini (1963)
37. 12 Angry Men - Sidney Lumet (1957)
38. It's a Wonderful Life - Frank Capra (1946)
39. Stagecoach - John Ford (1939)
40. The Empire Strikes Back - Irvin Kershner (1980)
41. Some Like It Hot - Billy Wilder (1959)
42. North by Northwest - Alfred Hitchcock (1959)
43. Toy Story - John Lasseter (1995)
44. The Exorcist - William Friedkin (1973)
45. Schindler's List - Steven Spielberg (1993)
46. Alien - Ridley Scott (1979)
47. The Gold Rush - Charles Chaplin (1925)
48. Intolerance - D. W. Griffith (1916)
49. E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial - Steven Spielberg (1982)
50. The Graduate - Mike Nichols (1967)
51. The 400 Blows - François Truffaut (1959)
52. Tokyo Story - Yasujirō Ozu (1953)
53. Bonnie and Clyde - Arthur Penn (1967)
54. The Rules of the Game - Jean Renoir (1939)
55. The Matrix - Lana & Lilly Wachowski (1999)
56. The Terminator - James Cameron (1984)
57. GoodFellas - Martin Scorsese (1990)
58. Sunset Boulevard - Billy Wilder (1950)
59. Blade Runner - Ridley Scott (1982)
60. Raging Bull - Martin Scorsese (1980)
61. A Clockwork Orange - Stanley Kubrick (1971)
62. Goldfinger - Guy Hamilton (1964)
63. The Third Man - Carol Reed (1949)
64. One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest - Miloš Forman (1975)
65. The Kid - Charles Chaplin (1921)
66. Pather Panchali - Satyajit Ray (1955)
67. Do the Right Thing - Spike Lee (1989)
68. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King - Peter Jackson (2003)
69. Spirited Away - Hayao Miyazaki (2001)
70. Double Indemnity - Billy Wilder (1944)
71. Once upon a Time in the West - Sergio Leone (1968)
72. King Kong - Merian C. Cooper & Ernest B. Schoedsack (1933)
73. Persona - Ingmar Bergman (1966)
74. La dolce vita - Federico Fellini (1960)
75. Rome, Open City - Roberto Rossellini (1945)
76. On the Waterfront - Elia Kazan (1954)
77. Chinatown - Roman Polański (1974
78. The Silence of the Lambs - Jonathan Demme (1991)
79. The Deer Hunter - Michael Cimino (1978)
80. The Great Dictator - Charles Chaplin (1940)
81. It Happened One Night - Frank Capra (1934)
82. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring - Peter Jackson (2001)
83. Back to the Future - Robert Zemeckis (1985)
84. Night of the Living Dead - George A. Romero (1968)
85. The Bridge on the River Kwai - David Lean (1957)
86. The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari - Robert Wiene (1920)
87. The Maltese Falcon - John Huston (1941)
88. Fantasia - Ben Sharpsteen et al. (1940)
89. Midnight Cowboy - John Schlesinger (1969)
90. Ben-Hur - William Wyler (1959)
91. The Seventh Seal - Ingmar Bergman (1957)
92. Man with a Movie Camera - Dziga Vertov (1929)
93. The Dark Knight - Christopher Nolan (2008)
94. Forrest Gump - Robert Zemeckis (1994)
95. Rocky - John G. Avildsen (1976)
96. Halloween - John Carpenter (1978)
97. To Kill a Mockingbird - Robert Mulligan (1962)
98. Annie Hall - Woody Allen (1977)
99. The Apartment - Billy Wilder (1960)
100. The Shawshank Redemption - Frank Darabont (1994)
101. Frankenstein - James Whale (1931)
102. All About Eve - Joseph L. Mankiewicz (1950)
103. Die Hard - John McTiernan (1988)
104. The Grand Illusion - Jean Renoir (1937)
105. My Neighbor Totoro - Hayao Miyazaki (1988)
106. Nosferatu - F. W. Murnau (1922)
107. Mulholland Dr. - David Lynch (2001)
108. Blue Velvet - David Lynch (1986)
109. High Noon - Fred Zinnemann (1952)
110. The Sound of Music - Robert Wise (1965)
111. The Treasure of the Sierra Madre - John Huston (1948)
112. The Best Years of Our Lives - William Wyler (1946)
113. The General - Buster Keaton & Clyde Bruckman (1926)
114. West Side Story - Robert Wise & Jerome Robbins (1961)
115. Touch of Evil - Orson Welles (1958)
116. A Streetcar Named Desire - Elia Kazan (1951)
117. Saving Private Ryan - Steven Spielberg (1998)
118. Titanic - James Cameron (1997)
119. Un chien andalou - Luis Buñuel (1929)
120. Children of Paradise - Marcel Carné (1945)
121. The Wild Bunch - Sam Peckinpah (1969)
122. La strada - Federico Fellini (1954)
123. Close Encounters of the Third Kind - Steven Spielberg (1977)
124. Parasite - Bong Joon-Ho (2019)
125. Jurassic Park - Steven Spielberg (1993)
126. Terminator 2: Judgment Day - James Cameron (1991)
127. The Shining - Stanley Kubrick (1980)
128. Rebel Without a Cause - Nicholas Ray (1955)
129. Superman - Richard Donner (1978)
130. L'arrivée d'un train en gare de La Ciotat - Louis & Auguste Lumière (1896)
131. Notorious - Alfred Hitchcock (1946)
132. The French Connection - William Friedkin (1971)
133. The Texas Chain Saw Massacre - Tobe Hooper (1974)
134. Mr. Smith Goes to Washington - Frank Capra (1939)
135. Avatar - James Cameron (2009)
136. Dr. No - Terence Young (1962)
137. Blow-Up - Michelangelo Antonioni (1966)
138. Paths of Glory - Stanley Kubrick (1957)
139. Rio Bravo - Howard Hawks (1959)
140. The Grapes of Wrath - John Ford (1940)
141. Fargo - Joel & Ethan Coen (1996)
142. Unforgiven - Clint Eastwood (1992)
143. Rosemary's Baby - Roman Polański (1968)
144. Aliens - James Cameron (1986)
145. Sherlock Jr. - Buster Keaton (1924)
146. Workers Leaving the Lumière Factory - Louis Lumière (1895)
147. Fight Club - David Fincher (1999)
148. There Will Be Blood - Paul Thomas Anderson (2007)
149. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind - Michel Gondry (2004)
150. Duck Soup - Leo McCarey (1933)
151. Amadeus - Miloš Forman (1984)
152. The Birds - Alfred Hitchcock (1963)
153. All Quiet on the Western Front - Lewis Milestone (1930)
154. The Night of the Hunter - Charles Laughton (1955)
155. Safety Last! - Fred C. Newmeyer & Sam Taylor (1924)
156. Nanook of the North - Robert J. Flaherty (1922)
157. Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? - Mike Nicholas (1966)
158. Scarface - Brian De Palma (1983)
159. Batman - Tim Burton (1989)
160. Reservoir Dogs - Quentin Tarantino (1992)
161. Enter the Dragon - Robert Clouse (1973)
162. Dawn of the Dead - George A. Romero (1978)
163. The Red Shoes - Michael Powell & Emeric Pressburger (1948)
164. Stalker - Andrei Tarkovsky (1979)
165. Pinocchio - Hamilton Luske, Ben Sharpsteen et al. (1940)
166. Rebecca - Alfred Hitchcock (1940)
167. Bride of Frankenstein - James Whale (1935)
168. Invasion of the Body Snatchers - Don Siegel (1956)
169. Wild Strawberries - Ingmar Bergman (1957)
170. City of God - Fernando Meirelles & Kátia Lund (2002)
171. Trainspotting - Danny Boyle (1996)
172. The Lion King - Roger Allers & Rob Minkoff (1994)
173. Barry Lyndon - Stanley Kubrick (1975)
174. Bringing Up Baby - Howard Hawks (1938)
175. Aguirre: The Wrath of God - Werner Herzog (1972)
176. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid - George Roy Hill (1969)
177. The Adventures of Robin Hood - Michael Curtiz & William Keighley (1938)
178. Monty Python and the Holy Grail - Terry Gilliam & Terry Jones (1975)
179. WALL·E - Andrew Stanton (2008)
180. Inception - Christopher Nolan (2010)
181. Godzilla - Ishirō Honda (1954)
182. Mad Max: Fury Road - George Miller (2015)
183. M*A*S*H - Robert Altman (1970)
184. Mary Poppins - Robert Stevenson (1964)
185. Ikiru - Akira Kurosawa (1952)
186. The Social Network - David Fincher (2010)
187. The Big Parade - King Vidor (1925)
188. No Country for Old Men - Joel & Ethan Coen (2007)
189. American Graffiti - George Lucas (1973)
190. The Jazz Singer - Alan Crosland (1927)
191. Dracula - Tod Browning (1931)
192. His Girl Friday - Howard Hawks (1940)
193. The Philadelphia Story - George Cukor (1940)
194. Ugetsu - Kenji MIzoguchi (1953)
195. Roman Holiday - William Wyler (1953)
196. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon - Ang Lee (2000)
197. A Fistful of Dollars - Sergio Leone (1964)
198. A Hard Day's Night - Richard Lester (1964)
199. Napoléon - Abel Gance (1927)
200. Greed - Erich von Stroheim (1924)
201. In the Heat of the NIght - Norman Jewison (1967)
202. Easy Rider - Dennis Hopper (1969)
203. The Crowd - King Vidor (1928)
204. Steamboat Willie - Walt Disney & Ub Iwerks (1928)
205. L'avventura - Michelangelo Antonioni (1960)
206. Get Out - Jordan Peele (2017)
207. Scarface - Howard Hawks (1932)
208. The Avengers - Joss Whedon (2012)
209. The Battle of Algiers - Gillo Pontecorvo (1966)
210. The Wages of Fear - Henri-Georges Clouzot (1953)
211. Dirty Harry - Don Siegel (1971)
212. Ghostbusters - Ivan Reitman (1984)
213. American Beauty - Sam Mendes (1999)
214. The Asphalt Jungle - John Huston (1950)
215. Network - Sidney Lumet (1976)
216. Breakfast at Tiffany's - Blake Edwards (1961)
217. Pan's Labyrinth - Guillermo del Toro (2006)
218. Cabaret - Bob Fosse (1972)
219. Brief Encounter - David Lean (1945)
220. Out of the Past - Jacques Tourneur (1947)
221. The Public Enemy - William A. Wellman (1931)
222. Airplane! - Jerry Zucker, Jim Abrahams & David Zucker (1980)
223. Se7en - David Fincher (1995)
224. Brokeback Mountain - Ang Lee (2005)
225. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers - Peter Jackson (2002)
226. Andrei Rublev - Andrei Tarkovsky (1966)
227. Yojimbo - Akira Kurosawa (1961)
228. The Last Laugh - F. W. Murnau (1924)
229. Hiroshima mon amour - Alain Resnais (1959)
230. Finding Nemo - Andrew Stanton & Lee Unkrich (2003)
231. The Thing - John Carpenter (1982)
232. Manhattan - Woody Allen (1979)
233. Boyhood - Richard Linklater (2014)
234. Mean Streets - Martin Scorsese (1973)
235. Carrie - Brian De Palma (1976)
236. Akira - Katsuhiro Ōtomo (1988)
237. Gladiator - Ridley Scott (2000)
238. Ran - Akira Kurosawa (1985)
239. Once upon a Time in America - Sergio Leone (1984)
240. Beauty and the Beast - Jean Cocteau (1946)
241. Meet Me in St. Louis - Vincente Minnelli (1944)
242. Beauty and the Beast - Gary Trousdale & Kirk Wise (1991)
243. To Be or Not to Be - Ernst Lubitsch (1942)
244. Princess Mononoke - Hayao Miyazaki (1997)
245. Our Hospitality - Buster Keaton & John G. Blystone (1923)
246. Freaks - Tod Browning (1932)
247. Memento - Christopher Nolan (2000)
248. The Manchurian Candidate - John Frankenheimer (1962)
249. Nashville - Robert Altman (1975)
250. Le samouraï - Jean-Pierre Melville (1967)
251. The Ten Commandments - Cecil B. DeMille (1956)
252. Das Boot - Wolfgang Petersen (1981)
253. Contempt - Jean-Luc Godard (1963)
254. A Woman Under the Influence - John Cassavetes (1974)
255. Dog Day Afternoon - Sidney Lumet (1975)
256. The Truman Show - Peter Weir (1998)
257. Oldboy - Park Chan-Wook (2003)
258. Cool Hand Luke - Stuart Rosenberg (1967)
259. The Thin Man - W. S. Van Dyke (1934)
260. This Is Spinal Tap - Rob Reiner (1984)
261. Shane - George Stevens (1953)
262. Laura - Otto Preminger (1944)
263. Les diaboliques - Henri-Georges Clouzot (1955)
264. Days of Heaven - Terrence Malick (1978)
265. All the President's Men - Alan J. Pakula (1976)
266. Dr. Mabuse the Gambler, Part 1: The Great Gambler - Fritz Lang (1922)
267. Repulsion - Roman Polański (1965)
268. Doctor Zhivago - David Lean (1965)
269. Gravity - Alfonso Cuarón (2013)
270. Inglourious Basterds - Quentin Tarantino (2009)
271. In the Mood for Love - Wong Kar-Wai (2000)
272. The Conformist - Bernardo Bertolucci (1970)
273. Raise the Red Lantern - Zhang Yimou (1991)
274. Jules and Jim - François Truffaut (1962)
275. Make Way for Tomorrow - Leo McCarey (1937)
276. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance - John Ford (1962)
277. Häxan - Benjamin Christensen (1922)
278. My Darling Clementine - John Ford (1946)
279. Top Hat - Mark Sandrich (1935)
280. Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior - George Miller (1981)
281. A Man Escaped - Robert Bresson (1956)
282. The Phantom Carriage - Victor Sjöström (1921)
283. Last Year at Marienbad - Alain Resnais (1961)
284. The Last Picture Show - Peter Bogdanovich (1971)
285. The Blue Angel - Josef von Sternberg (1930)
286. A Matter of Life and Death - Michael Powell & Emeric Pressburger (1946)
287. The Big Sleep - Howard Hawks (1946)
288. The Elephant Man - David Lynch (1980)
289. L.A. Confidential - Curtis Hanson (1997)
290. Boyz n the Hood - John Singleton (1991)
291. Anatomy of a Murder - Otto Preminger (1959)
292. Sanshō the Bailiff - Kenji Mizoguchi (1954)
293. The Sting - George Roy Hill (1973)
294. Viridiana - Luis Buñuel (1961)
295. Brazil - Terry Gilliam (1985)
296. Heat - Michael Mann (1995)
297. Jeanne Dielman, 23 quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles - Chantal Akerman (1975)
298. Young Frankenstein - Mel Brooks (1974)
299. Moonlight - Barry Jenkins (2016)
300. A Separation - Asghar Farhadi (2011)
301. Wings - William A. Wellman (1927)
302. Red River - Howard Hawks (1948)
303. Spartacus - Stanley Kubrick (1960)
304. The Conversation - Francis Ford Coppola (1974)
305. From Here to Eternity - Fred Zinnemann (1953)
306. Who Framed Roger Rabbit - Robert Zemeckis (1988)
307. Groundhog Day - Harold Ramis (1993)
308. The Invisible Man - James Whale (1933)
309. Patton - Franklin J. Schaffner (1970)
310. Planet of the Apes - Franklin J. Schaffner (1968)
311. L'Atalante - Jean Vigo (1934)
312. The Usual Suspects - Bryan Singer (1995)
313. Cat on a Hot Tin Roof - Richard Brooks (1958)
314. Shoah - Claude Lanzmann (1985)
315. Cinema Paradiso - Giuseppe Tornatore (1988)
316. Kind Hearts and Coronets - Robert Hamer (1949)
317. Three Colours: Red - Krzysztof Kieślowski (1994)
318. Trouble in Paradise - Ernst Lubitsch (1932)
319. The Phantom of the Opera - Rupert Julian (1925)
320. Last Tango in Paris - Bernardo Bertolucci (1972)
321. The African Queen - John Huston (1951)
322. The Great Train Robbery - Edwin S. Porter (1903)
323. Toy Story 3 - Lee Unkrich (2010)
324. Up - Pete Docter & Bob Peterson (2009)
325. Platoon - Oliver Stone (1986)
326. The Sixth Sense - M. Night Shyamalan (1999)
327. Au hasard Balthazar - Robert Bresson (1966)
328. The Lives of Others - Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck (2006)
329. The Pianist - Roman Polański (2002)
330. Life Is Beautiful - Roberto Benigni (1997)
331. Strangers on the Train - Alfred Hitchcock (1951)
332. Paris, Texas - Wim Wenders (1984)
333. Full Metal Jacket - Stanley Kubrick (1987)
334. Z - Costa-Gavras (1969)
335. Black Narcissus - Michael Powell & Emeric Pressburger (1947)
336. Fanny and Alexander - Ingmar Bergman (1982)
337. White Heat - Raoul Walsh (1949)
338. Late Spring - Yasujirō Ozu (1949)
339. Wings of Desire - Wim Wenders (1987)
340. Sweet Smell of Success - Alexander Mackendrick (1957)
341. Monty Python's Life of Brian - Terry Jones (1979)
342. Imitation of Life - Douglas Sirk (1959)
343. Solaris - Andrei Tarkovsky (1972)
344. L'âge d'or - Luis Buñuel (1930)
345. Ninotchka - Ernst Lubitsch (1939)
346. Badlands - Terrence Malick (1973)
347. The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse - Rex Ingram (1921)
348. I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang - Mervyn LeRoy (1932)
349. Love Me Tonight - Rouben Mamoulian (1932)
350. Edward Scissorhands - Tim Burton (1990)
351. Aladdin - John Musker & Ron Clements (1992)
352. My Fair Lady - George Cukor (1964)
353. Cabiria - Giovanni Pastrone (1914)
354. The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp - Michael Powell & Emeric Pressburger (1943)
355. Bambi - David Hand et al. (1942)
356. 42nd Street - Lloyd Bacon (1933)
357. Million Dollar Baby - Clint Eastwood (2004)
358. Stranger than Paradise - Jim Jarmusch (1984)
359. Amélie - Jean-Pierre Jeunet (2001)
360. Pandora's Box - G. W. Pabst (1929)
361. Los olvidados - Luis Buñuel (1950)
362. Inside Out - Pete Docter & Ronnie del Carmen (2015)
363. La La Land - Damien Chazelle (2016)
364. Kramer vs. Kramer - Robert Benton (1979)
365. From Russia with Love - Terence Young (1963)
366. The Hustler - Robert Rossen (1961)
367. The Quiet Man - John Ford (1952)
368. The 39 Steps - Alfred Hitchcock (1939)
369. A Night at the Opera - Sam Wood (1935)
370. The Thief of Bagdad - Michael Powell, Ludwig Berger & Tim Whelan (1940)
371. Ben-Hur: A Tale of the Christ - Fred Niblo (1925)
372. Dances with Wolves - Kevin Costner (1990)
373. The Princess Bride - Rob Reiner (1987)
374. The Breakfast Club - John Hughes (1985)
375. National Lampoon's Animal House - John Landis (1978)
376. Dead Poets Society - Peter Weir (1989)
377. 12 Years a Slave - Steve McQueen (2013)
378. The Thief of Bagdad - Raoul Walsh (1924)
379. L'arroseur arrosé - Louis Lumière (1895)
380. Saturday Night Fever - John Badham (1977)
381. Grave of the Fireflies - Isao Takahata (1988)
382. The Ox-Bow Incident - William A. Wellman (1942)
383. Close-Up - Abbas Kiarostami (1990)
384. Breaking the Waves - Lars von Trier (1996)
385. Lost in Translation - Sofia Coppola (2003)
386. Boogie Nights - Paul Thomas Anderson (1997)
387. Elevator to the Gallows - Louis Malle (1958)
388. The Umbrellas of Cherbourg - Jacques Demy (1964)
389. The Lost Weekend - Billy Wilder (1945)
390. Cat People - Jacques Tourneur (1942)
391. The Incredibles - Brad Bird (2004)
392. The Great Escape - John Sturges (1963)
393. Bullitt - Peter Yates (1968)
394. An American in Paris - Vincente Minnelli (1951)
395. The Day the Earth Stood Still - Robert Wise (1951)
396. Dr. Mabuse the Gambler, Part 2: Inferno - Fritz Lang (1922)
397. The Rocky Horror Picture Show - Jim Sharman (1975)
398. The Mirror - Andrei Tarkovsky (1975)
399. My Man Godfrey - Gregory La Cava (1936)
400. Pierrot le fou - Jean-Luc Godard (1965)
401. The Jungle Book - Wolfgang Reitherman (1967)
402. Gertie the Dinosaur - Winsor McCay (1914)
403. The Circus - Charles Chaplin (1928)
404. Mildred Pierce - Michael Curtiz (1945)
405. Amarcord - Federico Fellini (1973)
406. Dracula - Terence Fisher (1958)
407. Throne of Blood - Akira Kurosawa (1957)
408. Don't Look Now - Nicolas Roeg (1973)
409. The Big Lebowski - Joel & Ethan Coen (1998)
410. Come and See - Elem Klimov (1985)
411. Rope - Alfred Hitchcock (1948)
412. Mutiny on the Bounty - Frank Lloyd (1935)
413. The Magnificent Ambersons - Orson Welles (1942)
414. Gandhi - Richard Attenborough (1982)
415. Three Colours: Blue - Krzysztof Kieślowski (1993)
416. Chimes at Midnight - Orson Welles (1965)
417. Nights of Cabiria - Federico Fellini (1957)
418. The Producers - Mel Brooks (1967)
419. The Leopard - Luchino Visconti (1963)
420. Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse - Bob Persichetti, Peter Ramsey & Rodney Rothman (2018)
421. The Departed - Martin Scorsese (2006)
422. The Tree of Life - Terrence Malick (2011)
423. Caché - Michael Haneke (2005)
424. Talk to Her - Pedro Almodóvar (2002)
425. The Piano - Jane Campion (1993)
426. Rififi - Jules Dassin (1955)
427. The Shop Around the Corner - Ernst Lubitsch (1940)
428. The Lady Eve - Preston Sturges (1941)
429. Broken Blossoms - D. W. Griffith (1919)
430. Grease - Randal Kleiser (1978)
431. Tootsie - Sydney Pollack (1982)
432. The Evil Dead - Sam Raimi (1981)
433. Peeping Tom - Michael Powell (1960)
434. Tillie's Punctured Romance - Mack Sennett (1914)
435. Night and Fog - Alain Resnais (1956)
436. Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde - Rouben Mamoulian (1931)
437. East of Eden - Elia Kazan (1955)
438. Forbidden Planet - Fred M. Wilcox (1956)
439. Stand by Me - Rob Reiner (1986)
440. Amour - Michael Haneke (2012)
441. Mr. Deeds Goes to Town - Frank Capra (1936)
442. McCabe and Mrs. Miller - Robert Altman (1971)
443. The Awful Truth - Leo McCarey (1937)
444. The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie - Luis Buñuel (1972)
445. Cries and Whispers - Ingmar Bergman (1972)
446. Roma - Alfonso Cuarón (2018)
447. The Cameraman - Buster Keaton & Edward Sedgwick (1928)
448. Dune: Part Two - Denis Villeneuve (2024)
449. Dune - Denis Villeneuve (2021)
450. The Hurt Locker - Kathryn Bigelow (2009)
451. Magnolia - Paul Thomas Anderson (1999)
452. Mad Max - George Miller (1979)
453. Letter from an Unknown Woman - Max Ophüls (1948)
454. In a Lonely Place - Nicholas Ray (1950)
455. Eraserhead - David Lynch (1977)
456. Belle de jour - Luis Buñuel (1967)
457. Kiss Me Deadly - Robert Aldrich (1955)
458. Suspiria - Dario Argento (1977)
459. Ordet - Carl Theodor Dreyer (1955)
460. Playtime - Jacques Tati (1967)
461. Pickpocket - Robert Bresson (1959)
462. Ivan the Terrible, Part 1 - Sergei M. Eisenstein (1944)
463. Shadow of a Doubt - Alfred Hitchcock (1943)
464. Harold and Maude - Hal Ashby (1971)
465. The Thin Red Line - Terrence Malick (1998)
466. Ali: Fear Eats the Soul - Rainer Werner Fassbinder (1974)
467. All About My Mother - Pedro Almodóvar (1999)
468. To Have and Have Not - Howard Hawks (1944)
469. How Green Was My Valley - John Ford (1941)
470. Oppenheimer - Christopher Nolan (2023)
471. The Impossible Voyage - Georges Méliès (1904)
472. When Harry Met Sally... - Rob Reiner (1989)
473. Meshes of the Afternoon - Maya Deren & Alexander Hammid (1943)
474. Requiem for a Dream - Darren Aronofsky (2000)
475. Everything Everywhere All at Once - Daniel Kwan & Daniel Scheinert (2022)
476. Ferris Bueller's Day Off - John Hughes (1986)
477. Blazing Saddles - Mel Brooks (1974)
478. Sullivan's Travels - Preston Sturges (1941)
479. The Grand Budapest Hotel - Wes Anderson (2014)
480. Roundhay Garden Scene - Louis Le Prince (1888)
481. Little Caesar - Mervyn LeRoy (1931)
482. Django Unchained - Quentin Tarantino (2012)
483. RoboCop - Paul Verhoeven (1987)
484. Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind - Hayao Miyazaki (1984)
485. A Star Is Born - George Cukor (1954)
486. Mr. Hulot's Holiday - Jacques Tati (1953)
487. Being John Malkovich - Spike Jonze (1999)
488. Slumdog Millionaire - Danny Boyle (2008)
489. Braveheart - Mel Gibson (1995)
490. Amores perros - Alejandro González Iñárritu (2000)
491. Black Swan - Darren Aronofsky (2010)
492. The Wolf of Wall Street - Martin Scorsese (2010)

493. A Nightmare on Elm Street - Wes Craven (1984)
494. Killer of Sheep - Charles Burnett (1978)
495. Ratatouille - Brad Bird (2007)
496. Johnny Guitar - Nicholas Ray (1954)
497. 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea - Richard Fleischer (1954)
498. Alexander Nevsky - Sergei M. Eisenstein & Dmitri Vasilyev (1938)
499. Triumph of the Will - Leni Riefenstahl (1935)
500. On the Town - Stanley Donen & Gene Kelly (1949)

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Birdman - Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu (2014)
The Spirit of the Beehive - Víctor Erice (1973)
Rain Man - Barry Levinson (1988)
Ashes and Diamonds - Andrzej Wajda (1958)
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One more thing:

The Usual Suspects seems high.

Some breakdowns
vs Beauty and the Beast
Acclaim: Usual Suspects
Popularity: Beauty and the Beast fairly easily
Influence: Beauty and the Beast

vs Princess Mononoke
Acclaim: Leaning towards Princess Mononoke
Popularity: Princess Mononoke
Influence: Princess Mononoke

vs The Truman Show
Acclaim: close
Popularity: The Truman Show fairly easily
Influence: Close

vs Raise the Red Lantern
Acclaim: Raise the Red Lantern
Popularity: The Usual Suspects easy
Influence: Raise the Red Lantern fairly easily

vs Boyz n the Hood
Acclaim: The Usual Suspects
Popularity: The Usual Suspects
Influence: Boyz n the Hood fairly easily

vs Heat
Acclaim: Heat
Popularity: close
Influence: close

vs Groundhog Day
Acclaim: Groundhog Day
Popularity: close
Influence: close
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Yeah, hard disagree on adding Anora and Oppenheimer so high. I wouldn't even add Oppenheimer but I can see I'm alone on that. The other changes seem reasonable.
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What do you have in mind for Beauty and the Beast's influence, Man?
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Tim wrote: Thu Jan 22, 2026 4:47 pm What do you have in mind for Beauty and the Beast's influence, Man?
Citing everyone on DDD's favorite source.
wiki wrote:Beauty and the Beast is widely regarded as a groundbreaking animated film due to its unprecedented combination of critical acclaim, box office success, accolades, and overall cultural impact.[150] As one of the earliest Disney animated films to integrate computer-generated imagery in a way that significantly enhanced narrative and visual storytelling, it represents a pivotal transition between Disney's traditionally animated works and what would evolve into the artistic standard for modern animation,[150] merging "the elegant simplicity of Disney's early fairy tales with elevated character development", according to IndieWire.[151] Film critics and scholars recognize Beauty and the Beast for its innovative use of animation techniques achieved by blending traditional animation with computer-generated imagery, particularly exemplified by the ballroom sequence.[63][152][153][154][155] Film critic Richard Corliss said that, only four years later, Pixar's Toy Story would take full advantage of the computer animation foundation laid by Beauty and the Beast.[156] Retrospective critics have argued that Beauty and the Beast marked a significant shift in Disney's depiction of female leads,[63][157] being considered as much a departure from Cinderella (1950) and Sleeping Beauty as it was a precursor to Mulan (1998) and Moana (2016).[158]

Although The Little Mermaid had been a significant achievement in restoring Disney's animation department, Beauty and the Beast would serve as the crucial follow-up test to prove whether Disney's resurgence was long-lasting, especially following the underperformance of The Rescuers Down Under.[61] The film's success ultimately cemented Disney's return to dominating the animation industry as a forerunning entry in the Disney Renaissance.[159][155] Journalist and filmmaker Bilge Ebiri identifies Beauty and the Beast, particularly its unfinished screening at the 1991 New York Film Festival, as a turning point in shifting the public stigma that had dismissed animated films as mere children's entertainment for decades.[61] This event, he argues, helped critics and audiences recognize the complexity, artistry, and decision-making involved in animation, paving the way for the medium's acceptance as legitimate cinema.[61] Similarly, Emma Cochrane of Empire wrote in a 2000 review that Beauty and the Beast signals the beginning of the public referring to animated films as "animated features" instead of "cartoons", which was encouraged by the film's animation, music, and storytelling appealing to adults arguably more than any prior animated film.[63] According to Bill Gibron of PopMatters, the film's Best Picture Oscar nomination transcended categorical limitations, legitimizing animated films as serious contenders at the Academy Awards beyond musical and technical categories, and paving the way for future animated films to compete for Best Picture.[160] The high standard set by the film continues to impact current Disney projects.[158] According to Bruce Westbrook of the Houston Chronicle, Beauty and the Beast remains Disney's "crowning achievement", crediting it with cementing the studio's Broadway-style approach to animated musicals that would ultimately inspire their own stage adaptations.[161] Additionally, writers for IndieWire believe the ballroom sequence alone "deserves to be recognized as one of the great moments in movie history".[151
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Why do you keep picking on Birdman? We've already established its' placement months/years ago and we've already established as a forum that it is influential.
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