Greatest Rock Artists Of All Time (Revision Version)

[Brian]

I'd say Redding only loses influence against the Byrds. Not sure on cultural impact but he also seems a bigger cultural figure.

That could be, but I think that popularity is close, and that the Byrds beat Redding in influence by more than he beats them in acclaim. I see this as a close match-up that could go either way.

[Tim]

Thoughts?

1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. James Brown
4. Bob Dylan
5. Michael Jackson
6. Madonna
7. Chuck Berry
8. The Rolling Stones
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Aretha Franklin
11. Ray Charles
12. The Beach Boys
13. Led Zeppelin
14. Jimi Hendrix
15. Fats Domino
16. Prince
17. Marvin Gaye
18. Kanye West
19. Little Richard
20. Jay-Z
21. The Who
22. Sam Cooke
23. Pink Floyd
24. David Bowie
25. Eminem
26. U2
27. Run-D.M.C.
28. Beyoncé
29. Nirvana
30. 2pac
31. The Supremes
32. Bruce Springsteen
33. Queen
34. Bob Marley & the Wailers
35. Buddy Holly & The Crickets
36. The Temptations
37. Neil Young
38. Kendrick Lamar
39. R.E.M.
40. Taylor Swift
41. Drake
42. Elton John
43. Whitney Houston
44. The Everly Brothers
45. Janet Jackson
46. Mariah Carey
47. Black Sabbath
48. Public Enemy
49. Otis Redding
50. The Byrds
51. Metallica
52. Sly & the Family Stone
53. Bill Haley & His Comets
54. The Bee Gees
55. Donna Summer
56. Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
57. The Kinks
58. ABBA
59. The Beastie Boys
60. Bo Diddley
61. Roy Orbison
62. The Clash
63. AC/DC
64. Fleetwood Mac
65. Rihanna
66. The Doors
67. Curtis Mayfield & The Impressions
68. Dr. Dre
69. The Notorious B.I.G.
70. Joni Mitchell
71. Outkast
72. Britney Spears
73. Simon & Garfunkel
74. Creedence Clearwater Revival
75. Parliament/Funkadelic/George Clinton
76. Radiohead
77. N.W.A.
78. Lady Gaga
79. Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five
80. LL Cool J
81. Aerosmith
82. Eagles
83. Guns N' Roses
84. The Police
85. Van Halen
86. Coldplay
87. Al Green
88. The Ramones
89. Green Day
90. The Drifters
91. Adele
92. The Weeknd
93. Rod Stewart
94. Paul McCartney/Wings
95. Pearl Jam
96. The Grateful Dead
97. Mary J. Blige
98. Missy Elliott
99. Earth, Wind, & Fire
100. The Shirelles
101. Van Morrison
102. Cream
103. Fugees/Lauryn Hill
104. Red Hot Chili Peppers
105. Eric Clapton
106. Santana
107. The Isley Brothers
108. The Dominoes
109. The Orioles
110. Iron Maiden
111. The Band
112. Bad Bunny
113. Billy Joel
114. Frankie Valli & The Four Seasons
115. Justin Timberlake
116. Oasis
117. TLC
118. The Four Tops
119. Chicago
120. The Platters
121. Jerry Lee Lewis
122. Deep Purple
123. Jackie Wilson
124. Lana Del Rey
125. Daft Punk
126. Etta James
127. Martha & the Vandellas
128. Frank Zappa
129. Wilson Pickett
130. Crosby, Stills, Nash (& Young)
131. Big Joe Turner
132. Johnny Otis
133. Janis Joplin/Big Brother and the Holding Company
134. Rick Nelson
135. Jefferson Airplane
136. Yes
137. Ruth Brown
138. Dion (& the Belmonts)
139. The Coasters
140. The Allman Brothers Band
141. Elvis Costello
142. The Clovers
143. The White Stripes
144. Hank Ballard & the Midnighters
145. The Moody Blues

[ManPerson]

Chicago seem a bit high, I think Deep Purple clearly take acclaim and influence for instance.

[Tim]

1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. James Brown
4. Bob Dylan
5. Michael Jackson
6. Madonna
7. Chuck Berry
8. The Rolling Stones
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Aretha Franklin
11. Ray Charles
12. The Beach Boys
13. Led Zeppelin
14. Jimi Hendrix
15. Fats Domino
16. Prince
17. Marvin Gaye
18. Kanye West
19. Little Richard
20. Jay-Z
21. The Who
22. Sam Cooke
23. Pink Floyd
24. David Bowie
25. Eminem
26. U2
27. Run-D.M.C.
28. Beyoncé
29. Nirvana
30. 2pac
31. The Supremes
32. Bruce Springsteen
33. Queen
34. Bob Marley & the Wailers
35. Buddy Holly & The Crickets
36. The Temptations
37. Neil Young
38. Kendrick Lamar
39. R.E.M.
40. Taylor Swift
41. Drake
42. Elton John
43. Whitney Houston
44. The Everly Brothers
45. Janet Jackson
46. Mariah Carey
47. Black Sabbath
48. Public Enemy
49. Otis Redding
50. The Byrds
51. Metallica
52. Sly & the Family Stone
53. Bill Haley & His Comets
54. The Bee Gees
55. Donna Summer
56. Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
57. The Kinks
58. ABBA
59. The Beastie Boys
60. Bo Diddley
61. Roy Orbison
62. The Clash
63. AC/DC
64. Fleetwood Mac
65. Rihanna
66. The Doors
67. Curtis Mayfield & The Impressions
68. Dr. Dre
69. The Notorious B.I.G.
70. Joni Mitchell
71. Outkast
72. Britney Spears
73. Simon & Garfunkel
74. Creedence Clearwater Revival
75. Parliament/Funkadelic/George Clinton
76. Radiohead
77. N.W.A.
78. Lady Gaga
79. Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five
80. LL Cool J
81. Aerosmith
82. Eagles
83. Guns N' Roses
84. The Police
85. Van Halen
86. Coldplay
87. Al Green
88. The Ramones
89. Green Day
90. The Drifters
91. Adele
92. The Weeknd
93. Rod Stewart
94. Paul McCartney/Wings
95. Pearl Jam
96. The Grateful Dead
97. Mary J. Blige
98. Missy Elliott
99. Earth, Wind, & Fire
100. The Shirelles
101. Van Morrison
102. Cream
103. Fugees/Lauryn Hill
104. Red Hot Chili Peppers
105. Eric Clapton
106. Santana
107. The Isley Brothers
108. The Dominoes
109. The Orioles
110. Iron Maiden
111. The Band
112. Bad Bunny
113. Billy Joel
114. Frankie Valli & The Four Seasons
115. Justin Timberlake
116. Oasis
117. TLC
118. The Four Tops
119. The Platters
120. Jerry Lee Lewis
121. Deep Purple
122. Chicago
123. Jackie Wilson
124. Lana Del Rey
125. Daft Punk
126. Etta James
127. Martha & the Vandellas
128. Frank Zappa
129. Wilson Pickett
130. Crosby, Stills, Nash (& Young)
131. Big Joe Turner
132. Johnny Otis
133. Janis Joplin/Big Brother and the Holding Company
134. Rick Nelson
135. Jefferson Airplane
136. Yes
137. Ruth Brown
138. Dion (& the Belmonts)
139. The Coasters
140. The Allman Brothers Band
141. Elvis Costello
142. The Clovers
143. The White Stripes
144. Hank Ballard & the Midnighters
145. The Moody Blues

[Fido]

Sly & the Family Stone seem to only lose popularity against Metallica, and I'd say the only lose influence against the Byrds, though acclaim is also close.

[ManPerson]

Sly & the Family Stone seem to only lose popularity against Metallica, and I'd say the only lose influence against the Byrds, though acclaim is also close.

This kinda seems like a win for The Byrds.

I support the switch with Metallica, though.

[Tim]

The next group to insert:

121. Lavern Baker
122. Talking Heads
123. The Jackson 5 / The Jacksons
124. John Lennon
125. Gladys Knight & the Pips
126. Roy Brown
127. Wynonie Harris
128. Eric B. & Rakim
129. Blondie
130. The Mamas & the Papas

[Tim]

1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. James Brown
4. Bob Dylan
5. Michael Jackson
6. Madonna
7. Chuck Berry
8. The Rolling Stones
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Aretha Franklin
11. Ray Charles
12. The Beach Boys
13. Led Zeppelin
14. Jimi Hendrix
15. Fats Domino
16. Prince
17. Marvin Gaye
18. Kanye West
19. Little Richard
20. Jay-Z
21. The Who
22. Sam Cooke
23. Pink Floyd
24. David Bowie
25. Eminem
26. U2
27. Run-D.M.C.
28. Nirvana
29. Beyoncé
30. 2pac
31. The Supremes
32. Bruce Springsteen
33. Queen
34. Bob Marley & the Wailers
35. Buddy Holly & The Crickets
36. The Temptations
37. Neil Young
38. Kendrick Lamar
39. R.E.M.
40. Taylor Swift
41. Drake
42. Elton John
43. Whitney Houston
44. The Everly Brothers
45. Janet Jackson
46. Mariah Carey
47. Black Sabbath
48. Public Enemy
49. Otis Redding
50. The Byrds
51. Sly & the Family Stone
52. Metallica
53. Bill Haley & His Comets
54. The Bee Gees
55. Donna Summer
56. Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
57. The Kinks
58. ABBA
59. The Beastie Boys
60. Bo Diddley
61. Roy Orbison
62. The Clash
63. AC/DC
64. Fleetwood Mac
65. Rihanna
66. The Doors
67. Curtis Mayfield & The Impressions
68. Dr. Dre
69. The Notorious B.I.G.
70. Joni Mitchell
71. Outkast
72. Britney Spears
73. Simon & Garfunkel
74. Creedence Clearwater Revival
75. Parliament/Funkadelic/George Clinton
76. Radiohead
77. N.W.A.
78. Lady Gaga
79. Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five
80. LL Cool J
81. Aerosmith
82. Eagles
83. Guns N' Roses
84. The Police
85. Van Halen
86. Coldplay
87. Al Green
88. The Ramones
89. Eric B. & Rakim
90. Green Day
91. The Drifters
92. Adele
93. The Weeknd
94. Rod Stewart
95. Paul McCartney/Wings
96. Pearl Jam
97. The Grateful Dead
98. The Jackson 5 / The Jacksons
99. Mary J. Blige
100. Missy Elliott
101. Earth, Wind, & Fire
102. The Shirelles
103. Van Morrison
104. Cream
105. Fugees/Lauryn Hill
106. Red Hot Chili Peppers
107. Eric Clapton
108. Santana
109. The Isley Brothers
110. Roy Brown
111. Wynonie Harris
112. The Dominoes
113. The Orioles
114. Iron Maiden
115. The Band
116. Bad Bunny
117. Billy Joel
118. Frankie Valli & The Four Seasons
119. Justin Timberlake
120. Talking Heads
121. Oasis
122. TLC
123. The Four Tops
124. The Platters
125. Jerry Lee Lewis
126. Deep Purple
127. Blondie
128. Chicago
129. Jackie Wilson
130. Lana Del Rey
131. Daft Punk
132. John Lennon
133. Etta James
134. Martha & the Vandellas
135. Frank Zappa
136. Wilson Pickett
137. Crosby, Stills, Nash (& Young)
138. Big Joe Turner
139. Johnny Otis
140. Janis Joplin/Big Brother and the Holding Company
141. Rick Nelson
142. Jefferson Airplane
143. The Mamas & the Papas
144. Yes
145. Ruth Brown
146. Dion (& the Belmonts)
147. The Coasters
148. The Allman Brothers Band
149. Elvis Costello
150. The Clovers
151. The White Stripes
152. Hank Ballard & the Midnighters
153. The Moody Blues
154. Lavern Baker
155. Gladys Knight & the Pips

[Brian]

The '50s artists seem to be generally getting moved down, at least the ones who aren't in the top 60. The Clovers have especially been dropped quite a lot, despite being probably the greatest rock artist of the first half of the '50s.

[ManPerson]

I figure that replacing musical impact with acclaim hurts them somewhat while they don't seem to have much lasting popularity either. I could see them moved ahead of Rick Nelson since they take influence and probably acclaim as well.

[Tim]

Added The Ravens and Leonard Cohen to the list of artists which should be considered for the top 200 at page 8 if that's cool with you, Man.

[ManPerson]

I'm fine with that.

[Fido]

I'd have the Miracles over Donna and the Bee Gees. Their influence on the R&B / Motown sound (which was one of the progenitors of disco) is enormous, without counting Smokey's influence in songwriting in general, which also gives him/them tremendous acclaim. I guess less popular overall, but their success on the R&B charts, which are a better reflection on their popularity, is also great.

[ManPerson]

Considering how influential I Feel Love was on electronic and new wave music, I'm not sure that the Miracles are more influential than Summer, while I think she's clearly a bit more popular.

Maybe as a compromise of sorts...
54. Summer
55. Miracles
56. BGs

[Tim]

Man, plan on submitting your version of top 155?

[Tim]

The '50s artists seem to be generally getting moved down, at least the ones who aren't in the top 60. The Clovers have especially been dropped quite a lot, despite being probably the greatest rock artist of the first half of the '50s.

That may be true but that was the last half decade pre-rock's breakthrough/establishment as one of music's major genres so makes sense for that period to be underrepresented (though it's nice that it was generally given props on ddd lists).