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ManPerson wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2026 8:42 am I think Pixies are very comparable to Tribe in all the criteria, while being more acclaimed and influential than many of the artists I have below them.

I also see Dionne Warwick as very comparable with Diana Ross, though I guess she could lose some points for being somewhat borderline as a rock artist.

If you mean that Pixies are comparable to Tribe in all the criteria when considered together, that's possible, though I think I'd give the edge to Tribe. If you mean in each criterion, I'd have to give Tribe the advantage in popularity.

I figure the Pixies have better lasting popularity, based on streaming numbers at least (+ all the times Where is My Mind has been used in movies), and while Tribe has clearly sold more neither group does hugely well in that category so I see popularity overall as pretty even.

I think that's putting too much weight on the lasting popularity of one song. Tribe's albums beat those of the Pixies in both chart numbers and certifications. I think Tribe's singles chart numbers are better too, if the US Alternative chart represents a relatively small number of people for at least most of the period the PIxies were on that chart. Tribe's singles certifications overall are a little better than Pixies too.

Fair enough, I could see the Pixies a bit lower.

Thoughts? Moved Costello and Paul Simon down a bit as well as I'd say they only wins acclaim over, say, KISS and are clearly less influential than Bambaataa/Lymon/Yardbirds group.

1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. James Brown
4. Bob Dylan
5. Michael Jackson
6. Madonna
7. Chuck Berry
8. The Rolling Stones
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Aretha Franklin
11. Ray Charles
12. The Beach Boys
13. Led Zeppelin
14. Jimi Hendrix
15. Fats Domino
16. Prince
17. Marvin Gaye
18. Kanye West
19. Little Richard
20. Jay-Z
21. The Who
22. Sam Cooke
23. Pink Floyd
24. David Bowie
25. Eminem
26. U2
27. Run-D.M.C.
28. Nirvana
29. Beyoncé
30. 2pac
31. The Supremes
32. Bruce Springsteen
33. Queen
34. Bob Marley & the Wailers
35. Buddy Holly & The Crickets
36. The Temptations
37. Neil Young
38. Kendrick Lamar
39. R.E.M.
40. Taylor Swift
41. Drake
42. Elton John
43. Whitney Houston
44. The Everly Brothers
45. Janet Jackson
46. Mariah Carey
47. Black Sabbath
48. Public Enemy
49. Otis Redding
50. The Byrds
51. Sly & the Family Stone
52. Metallica
53. Bill Haley & His Comets
54. Donna Summer
55. Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
56. The Bee Gees
57. The Kinks
58. ABBA
59. Bo Diddley
60. The Beastie Boys
61. Roy Orbison
62. The Clash
63. The Doors
64. Kraftwerk
65. Curtis Mayfield & The Impressions
66. AC/DC
67. Fleetwood Mac
68. Rihanna
69. The Velvet Underground
70. The Notorious B.I.G.
71. Joni Mitchell
72. Outkast
73. Parliament/Funkadelic/George Clinton
74. Dr. Dre
75. Simon & Garfunkel
76. Britney Spears
77. Creedence Clearwater Revival
78. Radiohead
79. N.W.A.
80. Lady Gaga
81. Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five
82. LL Cool J
83. Aerosmith
84. Eagles
85. Guns N' Roses
86. The Police
87. Van Halen
88. Eric B. & Rakim
89. Coldplay
90. Al Green
91. The Ramones
92. Green Day
93. The Drifters
94. Adele
95. The Weeknd
96. Depeche Mode
97. Rod Stewart
98. Paul McCartney/Wings
99. Pearl Jam
100. The Grateful Dead
101. George Michael/Wham!
102. The Jackson 5/The Jacksons
103. Mary J. Blige
104. Missy Elliott
105. Earth, Wind, & Fire
106. Jerry Lee Lewis
107. Roy Brown
108. Wynonie Harris
109. The Platters
110. The Shirelles
111. Jackie Wilson
112. Van Morrison
113. Cream
114. Fugees/Lauryn Hill
115. Joy Division/New Order
116. Red Hot Chili Peppers
117. Eric Clapton
118. John Lennon
119. Deep Purple
120. Santana
121. The Isley Brothers
122. The Dominoes
123. The Orioles
124. The Four Tops
125. The Smiths
126. Blondie
127. The Clovers
128. Ruth Brown
129. The Band
130. Bad Bunny
131. The Sex Pistols
132. Iron Maiden
133. Billy Joel
134. Frankie Valli & The Four Seasons
135. Justin Timberlake
136. Oasis
137. TLC
138. Talking Heads
139. Lana Del Rey
140. Daft Punk
141. Big Joe Turner
142. Johnny Otis
143. Eddie Cochran
144. Iggy Pop & the Stooges
145. Kate Bush
146. Roxy Music
147. Chic
148. Genesis
149. Rush
150. Etta James
151. Martha & the Vandellas
152. Frank Zappa
153. Patti Smith
154. Phil Collins
155. Daryl Hall & John Oates
156. Chicago
157. A Tribe Called Quest
158. Booker T. & the MG’s
159. Cher
160. Diana Ross
161. R. Kelly
162. Kool & the Gang
163. Wilson Pickett
164. Crosby, Stills, Nash (& Young)
165. Janis Joplin/Big Brother and the Holding Company
166. Nas
167. Sam & Dave
168. Pixies
169. Afrika Bambaataa
170. Frankie Lymon & the Teenagers
171. The Yardbirds
172. KISS
173. Elvis Costello
174. Bon Jovi
175. Paul Simon
176. Alice Cooper
177. Carole King
178. The Righteous Brothers
179. Rick Nelson
180. Jefferson Airplane
181. Yes
182. Journey
183. James Taylor
184. Carl Perkins
185. The "5" Royales
186. Dionne Warwick
187. Def Leppard
188. Dion (& the Belmonts)
189. Gladys Knight & the Pips
190. The Mamas & the Papas
191. Johnny Ace
192. The Coasters
193. The Allman Brothers Band
194. Del Shannon
195. The White Stripes
196. King Crimson
197. The Cars
198. The O’Jays
199. Lynyrd Skynyrd
200. Screamin' Jay Hawkins
201. Salt-N-Pepa
202. Solomon Burke
203. Tom Petty
204. Bob Seger (& The Silver Bullet Band)
205. Hank Ballard & the Midnighters
206. Little Willie John
207. The Ventures
208. The Flamingos
209. The Animals
210. Jethro Tull
211. The Pretenders
212. John Mellencamp
213. LaVern Baker
214. Bobby "Blue" Bland
215. Chuck Willis
216. War
217. The Moody Blues
218. Jackson Browne
219. Shirley & Lee
220. Jan & Dean
221. Ivory Joe Hunter
222. Boogie Down Productions
223. Emerson, Lake, & Palmer
224. Bonnie Raitt
225. The Dells

I see Paul Simon as being pretty close to Kiss in terms of popularity, while clearly being more acclaimed and popular than Afrika Bambaataa, Frankie Lymon and The Yardbirds. Fine with Costello's new placement.

1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. James Brown
4. Bob Dylan
5. Michael Jackson
6. Madonna
7. Chuck Berry
8. The Rolling Stones
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Aretha Franklin
11. Ray Charles
12. The Beach Boys
13. Led Zeppelin
14. Jimi Hendrix
15. Fats Domino
16. Prince
17. Marvin Gaye
18. Kanye West
19. Little Richard
20. Jay-Z
21. The Who
22. Sam Cooke
23. Pink Floyd
24. David Bowie
25. Eminem
26. U2
27. Run-D.M.C.
28. Nirvana
29. Beyoncé
30. 2pac
31. The Supremes
32. Bruce Springsteen
33. Queen
34. Bob Marley & the Wailers
35. Buddy Holly & The Crickets
36. The Temptations
37. Neil Young
38. Kendrick Lamar
39. R.E.M.
40. Taylor Swift
41. Drake
42. Elton John
43. Whitney Houston
44. The Everly Brothers
45. Janet Jackson
46. Mariah Carey
47. Black Sabbath
48. Public Enemy
49. Otis Redding
50. The Byrds
51. Sly & the Family Stone
52. Metallica
53. Bill Haley & His Comets
54. Donna Summer
55. Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
56. The Bee Gees
57. The Kinks
58. ABBA
59. Bo Diddley
60. The Beastie Boys
61. Roy Orbison
62. The Clash
63. The Doors
64. Kraftwerk
65. Curtis Mayfield & The Impressions
66. AC/DC
67. Fleetwood Mac
68. Rihanna
69. The Velvet Underground
70. The Notorious B.I.G.
71. Joni Mitchell
72. Outkast
73. Parliament/Funkadelic/George Clinton
74. Dr. Dre
75. Simon & Garfunkel
76. Britney Spears
77. Creedence Clearwater Revival
78. Radiohead
79. N.W.A.
80. Lady Gaga
81. Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five
82. LL Cool J
83. Aerosmith
84. Eagles
85. Guns N' Roses
86. The Police
87. Van Halen
88. Eric B. & Rakim
89. Coldplay
90. Al Green
91. The Ramones
92. Green Day
93. The Drifters
94. Adele
95. The Weeknd
96. Depeche Mode
97. Rod Stewart
98. Paul McCartney/Wings
99. Pearl Jam
100. The Grateful Dead
101. George Michael/Wham!
102. The Jackson 5/The Jacksons
103. Mary J. Blige
104. Missy Elliott
105. Earth, Wind, & Fire
106. Jerry Lee Lewis
107. Roy Brown
108. Wynonie Harris
109. The Platters
110. The Shirelles
111. Jackie Wilson
112. Van Morrison
113. Cream
114. Fugees/Lauryn Hill
115. Joy Division/New Order
116. Red Hot Chili Peppers
117. Eric Clapton
118. John Lennon
119. Deep Purple
120. Santana
121. The Isley Brothers
122. The Dominoes
123. The Orioles
124. The Four Tops
125. The Smiths
126. Blondie
127. The Clovers
128. Ruth Brown
129. The Band
130. Bad Bunny
131. The Sex Pistols
132. Iron Maiden
133. Billy Joel
134. Frankie Valli & The Four Seasons
135. Justin Timberlake
136. Oasis
137. TLC
138. Talking Heads
139. Lana Del Rey
140. Daft Punk
141. Big Joe Turner
142. Johnny Otis
143. Eddie Cochran
144. Iggy Pop & the Stooges
145. Kate Bush
146. Roxy Music
147. Chic
148. Genesis
149. Rush
150. Etta James
151. Martha & the Vandellas
152. Frank Zappa
153. Patti Smith
154. Phil Collins
155. Daryl Hall & John Oates
156. Chicago
157. A Tribe Called Quest
158. Booker T. & the MG’s
159. Cher
160. Diana Ross
161. R. Kelly
162. Kool & the Gang
163. Wilson Pickett
164. Crosby, Stills, Nash (& Young)
165. Janis Joplin/Big Brother and the Holding Company
166. Nas
167. Sam & Dave
168. Pixies
169. Paul Simon
170. Afrika Bambaataa
171. Frankie Lymon & the Teenagers
172. The Yardbirds
173. KISS
174. Elvis Costello
175. Bon Jovi
176. Alice Cooper
177. Carole King
178. The Righteous Brothers
179. Rick Nelson
180. Jefferson Airplane
181. Yes
182. Journey
183. James Taylor
184. Carl Perkins
185. The "5" Royales
186. Dionne Warwick
187. Def Leppard
188. Dion (& the Belmonts)
189. Gladys Knight & the Pips
190. The Mamas & the Papas
191. Johnny Ace
192. The Coasters
193. The Allman Brothers Band
194. Del Shannon
195. The White Stripes
196. King Crimson
197. The Cars
198. The O’Jays
199. Lynyrd Skynyrd
200. Screamin' Jay Hawkins
201. Salt-N-Pepa
202. Solomon Burke
203. Tom Petty
204. Bob Seger (& The Silver Bullet Band)
205. Hank Ballard & the Midnighters
206. Little Willie John
207. The Ventures
208. The Flamingos
209. The Animals
210. Jethro Tull
211. The Pretenders
212. John Mellencamp
213. LaVern Baker
214. Bobby "Blue" Bland
215. Chuck Willis
216. War
217. The Moody Blues
218. Jackson Browne
219. Shirley & Lee
220. Jan & Dean
221. Ivory Joe Hunter
222. Boogie Down Productions
223. Emerson, Lake, & Palmer
224. Bonnie Raitt
225. The Dells

ManPerson wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2026 10:41 am Next Group:
Neil Diamond
Dire Straits
The Cure
Sonic Youth
Judas Priest
Ariana Grande
Justin Bieber
Frank Ocean
Alicia Keys
Usher

1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. James Brown
4. Bob Dylan
5. Michael Jackson
6. Madonna
7. Chuck Berry
8. The Rolling Stones
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Aretha Franklin
11. Ray Charles
12. The Beach Boys
13. Led Zeppelin
14. Jimi Hendrix
15. Fats Domino
16. Prince
17. Marvin Gaye
18. Kanye West
19. Little Richard
20. Jay-Z
21. The Who
22. Sam Cooke
23. Pink Floyd
24. David Bowie
25. Eminem
26. U2
27. Run-D.M.C.
28. Nirvana
29. Beyoncé
30. 2pac
31. The Supremes
32. Bruce Springsteen
33. Queen
34. Bob Marley & the Wailers
35. Buddy Holly & The Crickets
36. The Temptations
37. Neil Young
38. Kendrick Lamar
39. R.E.M.
40. Taylor Swift
41. Drake
42. Elton John
43. Whitney Houston
44. The Everly Brothers
45. Janet Jackson
46. Mariah Carey
47. Black Sabbath
48. Public Enemy
49. Otis Redding
50. The Byrds
51. Sly & the Family Stone
52. Metallica
53. Bill Haley & His Comets
54. Donna Summer
55. Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
56. The Bee Gees
57. The Kinks
58. ABBA
59. Bo Diddley
60. The Beastie Boys
61. Roy Orbison
62. The Clash
63. The Doors
64. Kraftwerk
65. Curtis Mayfield & The Impressions
66. AC/DC
67. Fleetwood Mac
68. Rihanna
69. The Velvet Underground
70. The Notorious B.I.G.
71. Joni Mitchell
72. Outkast
73. Parliament/Funkadelic/George Clinton
74. Dr. Dre
75. Simon & Garfunkel
76. Britney Spears
77. Creedence Clearwater Revival
78. Radiohead
79. N.W.A.
80. Lady Gaga
81. Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five
82. LL Cool J
83. Aerosmith
84. Eagles
85. Guns N' Roses
86. The Police
87. Van Halen
88. Eric B. & Rakim
89. Coldplay
90. Al Green
91. The Ramones
92. Green Day
93. The Drifters
94. Adele
95. The Weeknd
96. Depeche Mode
97. Ariana Grande
98. Rod Stewart
99. Paul McCartney/Wings
100. Pearl Jam
101. The Grateful Dead
102. George Michael/Wham!
103. The Jackson 5/The Jacksons
104. Mary J. Blige
105. Missy Elliott
106. Earth, Wind, & Fire
107. Jerry Lee Lewis
108. Roy Brown
109. Wynonie Harris
110. The Platters
111. The Shirelles
112. Jackie Wilson
113. Van Morrison
114. Cream
115. Fugees/Lauryn Hill
116. Joy Division/New Order
117. Red Hot Chili Peppers
118. Eric Clapton
119. John Lennon
120. Deep Purple
121. Santana
122. The Isley Brothers
123. The Dominoes
124. The Orioles
125. The Four Tops
126. The Smiths
127. Blondie
128. The Clovers
129. Ruth Brown
130. The Band
131. Bad Bunny
132. The Sex Pistols
133. Iron Maiden
134. Billy Joel
135. Frankie Valli & The Four Seasons
136. Justin Timberlake
137. The Cure
138. Oasis
139. TLC
140. Talking Heads
141. Lana Del Rey
142. Daft Punk
143. Big Joe Turner
144. Frank Ocean
145. Johnny Otis
146. Eddie Cochran
147. Iggy Pop & the Stooges
148. Kate Bush
149. Roxy Music
150. Chic
151. Genesis
152. Rush
153. Etta James
154. Martha & the Vandellas
155. Frank Zappa
156. Patti Smith
157. Phil Collins
158. Daryl Hall & John Oates
159. Chicago
160. A Tribe Called Quest
161. Neil Diamond
162. Booker T. & the MG’s
163. Cher
164. Diana Ross
165. R. Kelly
166. Kool & the Gang
167. Wilson Pickett
168. Crosby, Stills, Nash (& Young)
169. Janis Joplin/Big Brother and the Holding Company
170. Nas
171. Sam & Dave
172. Pixies
173. Paul Simon
174. Afrika Bambaataa
175. Frankie Lymon & the Teenagers
176. The Yardbirds
177. Dire Straits
178. KISS
179. Elvis Costello
180. Bon Jovi
181. Alice Cooper
182. Carole King
183. The Righteous Brothers
184. Rick Nelson
185. Jefferson Airplane
186. Yes
187. Journey
188. James Taylor
189. Carl Perkins
190. The "5" Royales
191. Dionne Warwick
192. Def Leppard
193. Dion (& the Belmonts)
194. Gladys Knight & the Pips
195. The Mamas & the Papas
196. Johnny Ace
197. The Coasters
198. The Allman Brothers Band
199. Del Shannon
200. The White Stripes
201. Alicia Keys
202. King Crimson
203. Judas Priest
204. Justin Bieber
205. Usher
206. The Cars
207. The O’Jays
208. Lynyrd Skynyrd
209. Screamin' Jay Hawkins
210. Salt-N-Pepa
211. Solomon Burke
212. Tom Petty
213. Bob Seger (& The Silver Bullet Band)
214. Hank Ballard & the Midnighters
215. Sonic Youth
216. Little Willie John
217. The Ventures
218. The Flamingos
219. The Animals
220. Jethro Tull
221. The Pretenders
222. John Mellencamp
223. LaVern Baker
224. Bobby "Blue" Bland
225. Chuck Willis
226. War
227. The Moody Blues
228. Jackson Browne
229. Shirley & Lee
230. Jan & Dean
231. Ivory Joe Hunter
232. Boogie Down Productions
233. Emerson, Lake, & Palmer
234. Bonnie Raitt
235. The Dells

Another artist out of her league is Lady Gaga. All of the artists below her up to Adele are more influential and acclaimed than her, and against the Eagles or Coldplay I'd say she doesn't even win popularity.

I figure Gaga is clearly quite influential and culturally impactful atp, even if it's clearly not at the level of Grandmaster Flash or The Ramones and I don't see her as clearly being behind, say, The Eagles or Aerosmith considering those bands aren't exactly the most acclaimed. I could see her between Rakim and Coldplay as a sort of compromise, though.

Checked back and I used to have Gaga between Aerosmith and Eagles which seems like a pretty apt grouping for her.

Cultural impact is the only thing that elevates her influence, and it still isn't at the level of that group. You say the Eagles and Aerosmith are not exactly the most acclaimed, but they are STILL more acclaimed than her. Hell, she is literally THE LOWEST of the group in acclaimedmusic by a huge margin, and it's not like she makes up for it in other areas, unlike Al Green (top tier vocalist), The Police, Van Halen, Rakim (top tier instrumentalists), I mean these are all Hall of Famers. Placing her slighty lower when you had her too high in the first place is not a compromise at all. If she loses, she goes down.

Also, I didn't catch it at first but Dr. Dre above N.W.A. is also wrong.

Keep in mind that Lady Gaga has had albums and songs in the 2020s with significant acclaim, so it's likely that if AcclaimedMusic was updated today (which it won't, but that's beside the point), she would rank quite a bit higher, especially since Bad Romance and The Fame Monster rose a lot on the last mini update.

Also her influence clearly goes beyond just cultural impact.

With the release of The Fame, Gaga was credited for reviving electronic dance music during the late 2000s on radio. Jonathan Bogart from The Atlantic stated, "EDM came in by no back door but right through the front gate, with Lady Gaga's 'Just Dance' in 2008" and that "the sound didn't take long to spread".[132] DJ Tommie Sunshine told MTV that "there wouldn't be a David Guetta top 10 hit... there wouldn't be this Black Eyed Peas record, if it wasn't for The Fame. The influence of that record is epic, and we are hearing talking about all of this because of that."[133] St. Louis Post-Dispatch's journalist Kevin C. Johnson with his article "Lady Gaga helps bring EDM to the masses", acknowledges the impact. In the article, Rob Lemon said Gaga "definitely has had influence" and that she "is exposing people to the music, and anybody exposing people to it is part of the machine."[134]

A decade later, Daniel D'Addario of Variety further observed the influence of Gaga's sense of spectacle on the next generation of artists, calling her "a pop star's pop star". He surmised that Sabrina Carpenter's use of self-parodying and ultra-glam camp in her performances, Billie Eilish's incorporation of grandeur into her shows, and Chappell Roan's "drag-inflected let's-put-on-a-show spirit" and "eagerness to use costumes and makeup to help tell her stories" all came from each watching the video for "Bad Romance" in their childhoods.

She and her work have influenced various artists including Miley Cyrus,[492] Nicki Minaj,[493] Ellie Goulding,[494] Halsey,[495] Jennifer Lopez,[496] Beyoncé,[497] Nick Jonas,[498] Sam Smith,[499] Noah Cyrus,[500] Katherine Langford,[501] MGMT,[502] Allie X,[503] Greyson Chance,[504] Cardi B,[505] Rina Sawayama,[506] Blackpink,[507] Madison Beer,[508] Ren of NU'EST,[509] Slayyyter,[510] Bebe Rexha,[511] Bree Runway,[512] Celeste,[513] Kim Petras,[514] JoJo Siwa,[515] Pabllo Vittar,[516] Ava Max,[517] Doja Cat,[518] Chaeyoung of Twice,[519] Kanye West,[520] Rachel Zegler,[521] SZA,[522] Raye,[523] Rebecca Black,[524] Grace Gaustad,[525] Laufey,[526] and Chappell Roan.[527]

Various higher education institutions have offered courses focusing on Gaga. Due to her influence on 21st century culture and her rise to global fame, sociologist Mathieu Deflem of the University of South Carolina launched a course titled "Lady Gaga and the Sociology of the Fame" in early 2011 with the objective of unraveling "some of the sociologically relevant dimensions of the fame of Lady Gaga".[528] Focusing on her influence on gender and sexual identity, the University of Virginia College of Arts and Sciences introduced a writing course titled "GaGa for Gaga: Sex, Gender, and Identity" during its Fall 2010 semester, which explored "how identity is challenged by gender and sexuality and how Lady Gaga confronts this challenge".[529] Courses exploring different aspects of Gaga's phenomenon, including her music and fame, have also been offered by Arizona State University, Tufts University, St. Catherine University, and the University of Richmond.[530]

I don't think, say, Guns n Roses or the Eagles clearly have more influence than this.

I'd say
Popularity: Dre fairly easily
Acclaim: Dre
Influence: N.W.A. fairly easily

We might as well call this the Wikipedia list. Three fragments: the first one, saying she helped popularize EDM (key word: popularize, not create or anything) the only one worth a damn, and ignoring The Fame came two years after Timberlake and Timbaland's FutureSex album, or Daft Punk, whose set at Coachella has also been called an important point in its popularization. The second fragment: one dude's article in which he credits certain artists who do something that Madonna and others had been doing for decades as doing it because of Lady Gaga. Source? He made it the fuck up! (seriously, read the article). Third fragment: listing a bunch of names without saying anything, and the Uni courses which also don't mean anything. Saying the Eagles, who defined all the soft rock that dominated the decade after, along with country rock and "yacht rock" or whatever they call it now, are not clearly more influential than her is ridiculous. Guns N' Roses also changed the hard rock landscape shifting it away from the glam metal craze and there is probably not a hard rock act in the 90s and 00s that isn't influenced by them. And Gaga's music in the 20s hasn't been a significant change for her, certainly not enough no say she's more way more acclaimed now than she was before.

So:

Grandmaster Flash: ridiculously more influential and also more acclaimed.
LL Cool J: way more influential and also more acclaimed (I think he should be ahead of Flash, as he only loses influence)
Aerosmith: hugely influential on hard rock, more acclaimed, and even popularity is close
Eagles: they win everything!
Guns N' Roses: more influential, more acclaimed, and even popularity is close
The Police: more influential (in new wave, the Second British Invasion, and because of their reggae elements) and way more acclaimed
Van Halen: way more influential and acclaimed
Eric B. & Rakim: way more influential and acclaimed
Coldplay: they are even more popular!
Al Green: hugely influential on 70s soul and way more acclaimed discography and singing
Ramones: WAY more influential and more acclaimed
Green Day: huge influence on pop punk and the popularization of punk in general and more acclaimed
The Drifters: huge influence on vocal groups through their various incarnations, on R&B in general (Money Honey or There Goes My Baby), more acclaimed and also super popular

If anyone disagrees with any breakdown, say it, and we can discuss it. You know, the good ole DDD way!

Well, if we say Gaga only (sorta) popularized EDM and wasn't an innovator the argument is worth making re: Eagles and soft rock which had popular artists performing it before them, ditto for country rock, Guns n Roses and hard rock (who could be considered glam metal-adjacent and hardly antagonistic to that style either, they were no Nirvana). Sure, some bands cited both as influence but how it's fundamentally different from that wiki list of artists presumably influenced by Gaga?