Greatest Films by Year

[ManPerson]

I think Sinners is probably the 2nd most acclaimed film of the year, only after One Battle After Another, while I think there's clearly a bigger difference between the two in popularity.

I also think KPop Demon Hunters popularity and impact is too large to leave it out of the top 3, I'm not even convinced OBAA should be above it.

[ManPerson]

Sinners/OBAA/KPop Demon Hunters aside, here's what I'd suggest for a compromise
4. Marty Supreme
5. Weapons
6. Sentimental Value
7. Frankenstein
8. Ne Zha 2
9. The Secret Agent
10. It Was Just An Accident
11. Zootopia 2
12. Hamnet
13. Superman
14. Bugonia
15. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu No Yaiba Infinity Castle
16. F1
17. No Other Choice
18. Train Dreams
19. Avatar: Fire and Ash
20. Wake Up Dead Man

[Tim]

I like this compromise.

[Tim]

Think as long as cultural impact is not a part of criteria and it's too early to talk influence, OBAA > KPop Demon Hunters. Sinners should prolly be #1 though.

[Fido]

Sinners grossed over 1.5x as much at the box office and has over 1.5x as many views on Letterboxd as OBAA. I don't think OBAA is 1.5x as acclaimed.

This is precisely the reason why popularity is being overrated in every list. Treating unmeasurable things as if they were measurable.

[ManPerson]

Think as long as cultural impact is not a part of criteria and it's too early to talk influence, OBAA > KPop Demon Hunters. Sinners should prolly be #1 though.

We've definitely given movies credit for influence the year they came out though (Dune, EEAAO, Avatar 2).

I think it's ridiculous for a movie spawning four top ten hits, simultaneously, while being a boost in international popularity for Korea (even leading to a significant boost in tourism), to not get credit for that.

[Dubrow555]

I'm thinking:

1. Sinners
2. One Battle
3. KPop

Is a fair compromise for now (I'll admit Kpop was too low on my draft). Who knows what can change in a year or two.

[Dubrow555]

Sinners grossed over 1.5x as much at the box office and has over 1.5x as many views on Letterboxd as OBAA. I don't think OBAA is 1.5x as acclaimed.

This is precisely the reason why popularity is being overrated in every list. Treating unmeasurable things as if they were measurable.

I would agree with this to some extent. This is why I would prefer Sirat + The Voice of Hind Rajab instead of Avatar 3 and F1.

[Tim]

I'd keep F1 at least, it was nominated for Best Film at Oscars (though people made fun of this fact obvi) and has good audience acclaim. As for your suggestions, I'd rather include The Voice of Hind Rajab than Sirāt.

[pauldrach]

I threw one together real quick:

1. One Battle After Another - Paul Thomas Anderson
2. Sinners - Ryan Coogler
3. Marty Supreme - Josh Safdie
4. KPop Demon Hunters - Maggie Kang & Chris Appelhans
5. Sentimental Value - Joachim Trier
6. The Secret Agent - Kleber Mendonça Filho
7. Hamnet - Chloé Zhao
8. Weapons - Zach Cregger
9. Frankenstein - Guillermo del Toro
10. It Was Just an Accident - Jafar Panahi
11. Superman - James Gunn
12. F1: The Movie - Joseph Kosinski
13. No Other Choice - Park Chan-Wook
14. Bugonia - Yorgos Lanthimos
15. Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery - Rian Johnson
16. Ne Zha 2 - Jiaozi
17. Mission: Impossible – The Final Reckoning - Christopher McQuarrie
18. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba – The Movie: Infinity Castle - Haruo Sotozaki
19. Mickey 17 - Bong Joon-Ho
20. Sirât - Oliver Laxe

[Tim]

Thoughts:

1. Sinners - Ryan Coogler
2. One Battle After Another - Paul Thomas Anderson
3. KPop Demon Hunters - Maggie Kang & Chris Appelhans
4. Marty Supreme - Josh Safdie
5. Sentimental Value - Joachim Trier
6. Weapons - Zach Cregger
7. Frankenstein - Guillermo del Toro
8. Ne Zha 2 - Jiaozi
9. Hamnet - Chloé Zhao
10. It Was Just an Accident - Jafar Panahi

11. The Secret Agent - Kleber Mendonça Filho
12. Superman - James Gunn
13. Zootopia 2 - Jared Bush & Byron Howard
14. Bugonia - Yorgos Lanthimos
15. Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery - Rian Johnson
16. F1 - Joseph Kosinski
17. No Other Choice - Park Chan-wook
18. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba — The Movie: Infinity Castle - Haruo Sotozaki
19. Train Dreams - Clint Bentley
20. The Voice of Hind Rajab - Kaouther Ben Hania

[ManPerson]

I'd keep Zootopia 2 over Superman as acclaim seems somewhat comparable while Zootopia grossed a lot more.

I think Weapons takes popularity by more than Sentimental Value takes acclaim for sure.

[Dubrow555]

Looks good to me. I'd also support Frutopia 2 over Superman.

[Bruno]

No Avatar?

[Tim]

Where would you have it and which movie would you kick?

[ManPerson]

I agree with having Avatar on the list.

[Dubrow555]

Is this really necessary? It clearly under performed compared to the sequels. Pretty low Metacritic score with "meh" audience scores and critical reception. I don't think it is a necessary inclusion.

[pauldrach]

Is this really necessary? It clearly under performed compared to the sequels. Pretty low Metacritic score with "meh" audience scores and critical reception. I don't think it is a necessary inclusion.

My thoughts exactly.