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RIP - a truly incredible actress

Tim wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2026 7:40 pmLiv Ullmann RIP

Source?

Someone in the group chat said it.

Tim wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2026 7:40 pmLiv Ullmann RIP

My bad, she's still alive, fell for a rumour.

Tim wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2026 8:02 am Someone in the group chat said it.

The most reliable of sources.

Boy do I feel stupid...but at least I learned she was born in Japan!

Let's give revising this list another shot (and I think it's worth expanding to 400 as well):

1. Katharine Hepburn
2. Meryl Streep
3. Bette Davis
4. Ingrid Bergman
5. Audrey Hepburn
6. Greta Garbo
7. Lillian Gish
8. Elizabeth Taylor
9. Catherine Deneuve
10. Barbara Stanwyck
11. Jane Fonda
12. Diane Keaton
13. Marlene Dietrich
14. Shirley MacLaine
15. Jeanne Moreau
16. Joan Crawford
17. Sophia Loren
18. Judy Garland
19. Liv Ullmann
20. Marilyn Monroe
21. Mary Pickford
22. Olivia de Havilland
23. Cate Blanchett
24. Faye Dunaway
25. Deborah Kerr
26. Kate Winslet
27. Grace Kelly
28. Norma Shearer
29. Julie Christie
30. Claudia Cardinale
31. Isabelle Huppert
32. Juliette Binoche
33. Frances McDormand
34. Julianne Moore
35. Judi Dench
36. Greer Garson
37. Sissy Spacek
38. Susan Sarandon
39. Ginger Rogers
40. Vivien Leigh
41. Jessica Lange
42. Glenn Close
43. Lauren Bacall
44. Nicole Kidman
45. Jodie Foster
46. Monica Vitti
47. Jane Wyman
48. Julia Roberts
49. Maggie Smith
50. Meena Kumari
51. Emma Thompson
52. Anna Magnani
53. Claudette Colbert
54. Ava Gardner
55. Gloria Swanson
56. Simone Signoret
57. Anna Karina
58. Isabelle Adjani
59. Vanessa Redgrave
60. Faten Hamama
61. Rosalind Russell
62. Setsuko Hara
63. Helen Mirren
64. Anne Bancroft
65. Julie Andrews
66. Brigitte Bardot
67. Alida Valli
68. Michèle Morgan
69. Natalie Wood
70. Louise Brooks
71. Ellen Burstyn
72. Rita Hayworth
73. Giulietta Masina
74. Glenda Jackson
75. Susan Hayward
76. Sally Field
77. Jennifer Jones
78. Joan Fontaine
79. Michelle Pfeiffer
80. Shelley Winters
81. Geraldine Page
82. Kathy Bates
83. Annette Bening
84. Sridevi
85. Sigourney Weaver
86. Carole Lombard
87. Gena Rowlands
88. Emma Stone
89. Penélope Cruz
90. Gong Li
91. Annie Girardot
92. Arletty
93. Doris Day
94. Bibi Andersson
95. Stefania Sandrelli
96. Madhuri Dixit
97. Pola Negri
98. Jean Arthur
99. Danielle Darrieux
100. Joanne Woodward

Tim wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2026 12:29 am Let's give revising this list another shot (and I think it's worth expanding to 400 as well):

1. Katharine Hepburn
2. Meryl Streep
3. Bette Davis
4. Ingrid Bergman
5. Audrey Hepburn
6. Greta Garbo
7. Lillian Gish
8. Elizabeth Taylor
9. Catherine Deneuve
10. Barbara Stanwyck
11. Jane Fonda
12. Diane Keaton
13. Marlene Dietrich
14. Shirley MacLaine
15. Jeanne Moreau
16. Joan Crawford
17. Sophia Loren
18. Judy Garland
19. Liv Ullmann
20. Marilyn Monroe
21. Mary Pickford
22. Olivia de Havilland
23. Cate Blanchett
24. Faye Dunaway
25. Deborah Kerr
26. Kate Winslet
27. Grace Kelly
28. Norma Shearer
29. Julie Christie
30. Claudia Cardinale
31. Isabelle Huppert
32. Juliette Binoche
33. Frances McDormand
34. Julianne Moore
35. Judi Dench
36. Greer Garson
37. Sissy Spacek
38. Susan Sarandon
39. Ginger Rogers
40. Vivien Leigh
41. Jessica Lange
42. Glenn Close
43. Lauren Bacall
44. Nicole Kidman
45. Jodie Foster
46. Monica Vitti
47. Jane Wyman
48. Julia Roberts
49. Maggie Smith
50. Meena Kumari
51. Emma Thompson
52. Anna Magnani
53. Claudette Colbert
54. Ava Gardner
55. Gloria Swanson
56. Simone Signoret
57. Anna Karina
58. Isabelle Adjani
59. Vanessa Redgrave
60. Faten Hamama
61. Rosalind Russell
62. Setsuko Hara
63. Helen Mirren
64. Anne Bancroft
65. Julie Andrews
66. Brigitte Bardot
67. Alida Valli
68. Michèle Morgan
69. Natalie Wood
70. Louise Brooks
71. Ellen Burstyn
72. Rita Hayworth
73. Giulietta Masina
74. Glenda Jackson
75. Susan Hayward
76. Sally Field
77. Jennifer Jones
78. Joan Fontaine
79. Michelle Pfeiffer
80. Shelley Winters
81. Geraldine Page
82. Kathy Bates
83. Annette Bening
84. Sridevi
85. Sigourney Weaver
86. Carole Lombard
87. Gena Rowlands
88. Emma Stone
89. Penélope Cruz
90. Gong Li
91. Annie Girardot
92. Arletty
93. Doris Day
94. Bibi Andersson
95. Stefania Sandrelli
96. Madhuri Dixit
97. Pola Negri
98. Jean Arthur
99. Danielle Darrieux
100. Joanne Woodward

101. Amy Adams
102. Romy Schneider
103. Asta Nielsen
104. Madhubala
105. Shadia
106. Florence Lawrence
107. Clara Bow
108. Jean Harlow
109. Miriam Hopkins
110. Helena Bonham Carter
111. Machiko Kyo
112. Jean Simmons
113. Kajol
114. Angela Lansbury
115. Anjelica Huston
116. Holly Hunter
117. Tilda Swinton
118. Kinuyo Tanaka
119. Mia Farrow
120. Irene Dunne
121. Harriet Andersson
122. Anouk Aimée
123. Dianne Wiest
124. Delphine Seyrig
125. Nutan
126. Maria Félix
127. Dorothy Gish
128. Valeria Golino
129. Hema Malini
130. Mariangela Melato
131. Fanny Ardant
132. Joan Allen
133. Laura Linney
134. Myrna Loy
135. Maggie Cheung
136. Natalie Portman
137. Shirley Temple
138. Gene Tierney
139. Marion Cotillard
140. Aishwarya Rai
141. Maribel Verdú
142. Lana Turner
143. Fatemeh Motamed-Arya
144. Katy Jurado
145. Theda Bara
146. Jaya Bachchan
147. Stéphane Audran
148. Mae West
149. Vyjayanthimala
150. Michelle Williams
151. Viola Davis
152. Dorothy Dandridge
153. Francesca Bertini
154. Renée Zellweger
155. Barbra Streisand
156. Liza Minnelli
157. Gina Lollobrigida
158. Ruan Lingyu
159. Nargis
160. Zhang Ziyi
161. Paulette Goddard
162. Sandrine Bonnaire
163. Margherita Buy
164. Vera Kholodnaya
165. Emmanuelle Béart
166. Mabel Normand
167. Nathalie Baye
168. Charlize Theron
169. Naomi Watts
170. Ingrid Thulin
171. Asha Parekh
172. Norma Talmadge
173. Thelma Ritter
174. Simone Simon
175. Dolores del Río
176. Faina Ranevskaya
177. Mary Queeny
178. Henny Porten
179. Hind Rostom
180. Miou-Miou
181. Winona Ryder
182. Kristin Scott Thomas
183. Hanna Schygulla
184. Jennifer Lawrence
185. Angelina Jolie
186. Scarlett Johansson
187. Jacqueline Bisset
188. Victoria Abril
189. Judy Davis
190. Hamideh Kheirabadi
191. Kyoko Kagawa
192. Shohreh Aghdashloo
193. Joan Blondell
194. Mariam Fakhr Eddine
195. Mary Astor
196. Barbara Hershey
197. Soad Hosny
198. Ethel Barrymore
199. Goldie Hawn
200. Vilma Bánky

I'd have Barbra Streisand higher since she was one of the biggest stars of her era while also winning an Oscar. I'd have her next to Clara Bow, maybe.

Wondering also if Maggie Smith is a little too low.

Suggestion for a spot?

1. Katharine Hepburn
2. Meryl Streep
3. Bette Davis
4. Ingrid Bergman
5. Audrey Hepburn
6. Greta Garbo
7. Lillian Gish
8. Elizabeth Taylor
9. Catherine Deneuve
10. Barbara Stanwyck
11. Jane Fonda
12. Diane Keaton
13. Marlene Dietrich
14. Shirley MacLaine
15. Jeanne Moreau
16. Joan Crawford
17. Sophia Loren
18. Judy Garland
19. Liv Ullmann
20. Marilyn Monroe
21. Mary Pickford
22. Olivia de Havilland
23. Cate Blanchett
24. Faye Dunaway
25. Deborah Kerr
26. Kate Winslet
27. Grace Kelly
28. Norma Shearer
29. Julie Christie
30. Claudia Cardinale
31. Isabelle Huppert
32. Juliette Binoche
33. Frances McDormand
34. Julianne Moore
35. Judi Dench
36. Greer Garson
37. Sissy Spacek
38. Susan Sarandon
39. Ginger Rogers
40. Vivien Leigh
41. Jessica Lange
42. Glenn Close
43. Maggie Smith
44. Lauren Bacall
45. Nicole Kidman
46. Jodie Foster
47. Monica Vitti
48. Jane Wyman
49. Julia Roberts
50. Meena Kumari
51. Emma Thompson
52. Anna Magnani
53. Claudette Colbert
54. Ava Gardner
55. Gloria Swanson
56. Simone Signoret
57. Anna Karina
58. Isabelle Adjani
59. Vanessa Redgrave
60. Faten Hamama
61. Rosalind Russell
62. Setsuko Hara
63. Helen Mirren
64. Anne Bancroft
65. Julie Andrews
66. Brigitte Bardot
67. Alida Valli
68. Michèle Morgan
69. Natalie Wood
70. Louise Brooks
71. Ellen Burstyn
72. Rita Hayworth
73. Giulietta Masina
74. Glenda Jackson
75. Susan Hayward
76. Sally Field
77. Jennifer Jones
78. Joan Fontaine
79. Michelle Pfeiffer
80. Shelley Winters
81. Geraldine Page
82. Kathy Bates
83. Annette Bening
84. Sridevi
85. Sigourney Weaver
86. Carole Lombard
87. Gena Rowlands
88. Emma Stone
89. Penélope Cruz
90. Gong Li
91. Annie Girardot
92. Arletty
93. Doris Day
94. Bibi Andersson
95. Stefania Sandrelli
96. Madhuri Dixit
97. Pola Negri
98. Jean Arthur
99. Danielle Darrieux
100. Joanne Woodward
101. Amy Adams
102. Romy Schneider
103. Asta Nielsen
104. Madhubala
105. Shadia
106. Florence Lawrence
107. Clara Bow
108. Barbra Streisand
109. Jean Harlow
110. Miriam Hopkins
111. Helena Bonham Carter
112. Machiko Kyo
113. Jean Simmons
114. Kajol
115. Angela Lansbury
116. Anjelica Huston
117. Holly Hunter
118. Tilda Swinton
119. Kinuyo Tanaka
120. Mia Farrow
121. Irene Dunne
122. Harriet Andersson
123. Anouk Aimée
124. Dianne Wiest
125. Delphine Seyrig
126. Nutan
127. Maria Félix
128. Dorothy Gish
129. Valeria Golino
130. Hema Malini
131. Mariangela Melato
132. Fanny Ardant
133. Joan Allen
134. Laura Linney
135. Myrna Loy
136. Maggie Cheung
137. Natalie Portman
138. Shirley Temple
139. Gene Tierney
140. Marion Cotillard
141. Aishwarya Rai
142. Maribel Verdú
143. Lana Turner
144. Fatemeh Motamed-Arya
145. Katy Jurado
146. Theda Bara
147. Jaya Bachchan
148. Stéphane Audran
149. Mae West
150. Vyjayanthimala
151. Michelle Williams
152. Viola Davis
153. Dorothy Dandridge
154. Francesca Bertini
155. Renée Zellweger
156. Liza Minnelli
157. Gina Lollobrigida
158. Ruan Lingyu
159. Nargis
160. Zhang Ziyi
161. Paulette Goddard
162. Sandrine Bonnaire
163. Margherita Buy
164. Vera Kholodnaya
165. Emmanuelle Béart
166. Mabel Normand
167. Nathalie Baye
168. Charlize Theron
169. Naomi Watts
170. Ingrid Thulin
171. Asha Parekh
172. Norma Talmadge
173. Thelma Ritter
174. Simone Simon
175. Dolores del Río
176. Faina Ranevskaya
177. Mary Queeny
178. Henny Porten
179. Hind Rostom
180. Miou-Miou
181. Winona Ryder
182. Kristin Scott Thomas
183. Hanna Schygulla
184. Jennifer Lawrence
185. Angelina Jolie
186. Scarlett Johansson
187. Jacqueline Bisset
188. Victoria Abril
189. Judy Davis
190. Hamideh Kheirabadi
191. Kyoko Kagawa
192. Shohreh Aghdashloo
193. Joan Blondell
194. Mariam Fakhr Eddine
195. Mary Astor
196. Barbara Hershey
197. Soad Hosny
198. Ethel Barrymore
199. Goldie Hawn
200. Vilma Bánky
201. Eleanor Parker
202. Nimmi
203. Maureen O’Hara
204. Jamie Lee Curtis
205. Silvana Mangano
206. Keira Knightley
207. Saoirse Ronan
208. Carey Mulligan
209. Lupe Vélez
210. Suchitra Sen
211. Jessica Chastain
212. Reese Witherspoon
213. Halle Berry
214. Elsa Lanchester
215. Veronica Lake
216. Emmanuelle Riva
217. Yousra
218. Kathleen Turner
219. Anna May Wong
220. Olivia Colman
221. Teresa Wright
222. Claire Trevor
223. Jennifer Connelly
224. Dolores Costello
225. Donna Reed
226. Blanche Sweet
227. Debbie Reynolds
228. Janet Leigh
229. Virna Lisi
230. Leila Hatami
231. Sandra Bullock
232. Laura Dern
233. Geena Davis
234. Salma Hayek
235. Sharon Stone
236. Colleen Moore
237. Clara Kimball Young
238. Agnes Moorehead
239. Charlotte Rampling
240. Lyudmila Gurchenko
241. Anne Hathaway
242. Angela Bassett
243. Rita Moreno
244. Cicely Tyson
245. Debra Winger
246. Mercedes McCambridge
247. Emily Watson
248. Bette Midler
249. Uma Thurman
250. Demi Moore
251. Jessica Tandy
252. Audrey Tautou
253. Carmen Maura
254. Michelle Yeoh
255. Monica Bellucci
256. Sylvia Chang
257. Eva Marie Saint
258. Hilary Swank
259. Marie Dressler
260. Sandra Hüller
261. Charlotte Gainsbourg
262. Renée Jeanne Falconetti
263. Golshifteh Farahani
264. Janet Gaynor
265. Luise Rainer
266. Catherine Frot
267. Marisa Tomei
268. Gisèle Casadesus
269. Gloria Grahame
270. Anne Baxter
271. Toni Collette
272. Gwyneth Paltrow
273. Lee Remick
274. Lyubov Orlova
275. Patricia Neal
276. Jean Seberg
277. Leslie Caron
278. Jane Alexander
279. Kristen Stewart
280. Ann-Margret
281. Hedy Lamarr
282. Joan Bennett
283. Cameron Diaz
284. Maria Ouspenskaya
285. Lilli Palmer
286. Jayne Mansfield
287. María Antonieta Pons
288. Diane Ladd
289. Beulah Bondi
290. Judith Anderson
291. Brenda Blethyn
292. Anne Revere
293. Maria Schell
294. Irène Jacob
295. Betty Grable
296. Mieko Harada
297. Wendy Hiller
298. Maria Montez
299. Whoopi Goldberg
300. Kirsten Dunst

Figured Maggie Smith could be grouped together with Jessica Lange/Glenn Close.